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And usually Rabiot or Tolisso or Tchouameni. Guy works best in a functioning midfield 3. I don't see how he ever works at United with Bruno and our current holding options. He's a luxury addition to a team that I doubt we can afford.
How is it pathetic to expect a player that cost more than Southampton’s whole first 11 to run a game of football at home against supposedly vastly inferior players? I feel like you find it difficult to take any criticism of Pogba on board in a balanced way without almost getting offended at the notion. I’m not saying he’s a bad player at all or that he had a bad game but it wasnt great either in the second half. I think the continued analysis shows he’s just not the right player in the middle for a team like us that needs to break teams spirit and to stamp our authority on games. I don’t think he works hard enough to get into the city or Liverpool team either. He’s a luxury player in a team that needs to be much more ruthless
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He was good in the first 17 minutes, but then he faded slightly for 9 minutes before picking it back up for the next 12. He then had a decent 7 minutes, but we didn't score a 2nd so he couldn't have been that good. In fact, he was pretty shite if you look at it like that.
I don't remember the 2nd half, so let's just say he was rubbish. Overall, a poor game from him.
I don't remember the 2nd half, so let's just say he was rubbish. Overall, a poor game from him.
You don't remember the 2nd half but still have a ready made conclusion ?
He's playing well so that some chump signs him on big wages. Let United not be that chump.
If we don’t sign a creative midfielder if/when he leaves...
Like it or not, an on-song Pogba is our best midfielder and arguably the best player at the club or at least top three.
Like it or not, an on-song Pogba is our best midfielder and arguably the best player at the club or at least top three.
Bullshit, it’s not agenda, do you think everyone wants to be walking away from a Southampton match with a draw?
Pogba might shine bright for 30 minutes but that’s no use to anyone when the game is 90 minutes, honestly we would have been better with Romeu yesterday than Pogba if he’s not going to do the basics right.
We would have been better with Romeu and JWP than McTom and Bruno...no?
McTominay was the furthest back and wasn’t getting any help, it would be unfair to judge him on yesterday’s match.
Bruno change him if you like, I said it’s either one or the other, not enough protection having both.
I've watched all games. He's been our best player since his return.
I don't think protection is really an issue. If the fullbacks do their jobs amd stay in position there isnt that much of a threat to the defense.
At a club like Man Utd its far more important that midfielders be competent on the ball and dont have the passing range of a 12 year old.
Thats where Romeu and JWP stood out for me...in their ability to soak up pressure and convert that to counter pressure simply by being able to make competent passes when under said pressure.
Brilliant in flashes but needs 2 workaholic midfielders next to him. To me looks like he could play in a 4 man midfield only. Why don’t we try for a change a 4-4-2. Pogba mct Fred and Bruno as mids. With sanche cavani up top? Bin Rashford he’s terrible.
Let’s take him out put another runner in there and play through Bruno.
That will bring us trophies.
That will bring us trophies.
Why people bash him when he has come back from a long time injury, straight into the team and have been the best performer in the string of matches he played is unbelievable.
Embarrassing subjective fans
Embarrassing subjective fans
Just a thought on analysis etc, in the first half we had good control of the game and Southampton looked all over the place and out of position when we attacked and especially when we broke on them. I’m guessing you could find 4/5 snippets in there that highlight players out of position if you wanted to.
Great. We’re back to the “what players do we need to sign and what position can he be tried in to build a functional team around him” debate. Never fecking ending.
He’s done some lovely stuff in attack since he came back from injury. Same old flaws in evidence though and can’t seem to play more than an hour of football before the wheels fall of. Who’d have thought pissing off to Dubai for a mini break half way through the season might not actually help with peak physical fitness?
He’s done some lovely stuff in attack since he came back from injury. Same old flaws in evidence though and can’t seem to play more than an hour of football before the wheels fall of. Who’d have thought pissing off to Dubai for a mini break half way through the season might not actually help with peak physical fitness?
It wouldn’t be difficult to be our best outfield player.
Great in patches but also looks lethargic at times, slow to close men down and often doesn't track his man diligently. So annoying as if he put in the hard yards he'd be one of the best about.
Start of January21 , April and start of this season, other than that he hasn't been up to standard. That's my opinion, what's yours?
Congratulations. You and 80% of the people here.
Double standards for players.
Well you’d be wrong, Southampton got through the midfield multiple times and Armstrong should have had a hat trick.
Of course playing the right pass is important that’s what midfield is about but you must do the basics as well.
He's such a good professional.
How many of us would move to a project at the peak of our career, realise the guy who headhunted us was toxic and past it, see him replaced by a paragon of incompetence for 3 years, go nowhere, win nothing, and still perform.
Feel sorry for the guy.
Raiola is a huge bellend, but if I'm a player, I'd employ him. He speaks for players who are too professional to speak up for themselves.
How many of us would move to a project at the peak of our career, realise the guy who headhunted us was toxic and past it, see him replaced by a paragon of incompetence for 3 years, go nowhere, win nothing, and still perform.
Feel sorry for the guy.
Raiola is a huge bellend, but if I'm a player, I'd employ him. He speaks for players who are too professional to speak up for themselves.
Is this serious?
Still perform? You must be joking. He's been a flop in most people's eyes.
Sounds like you’re putting Pogba above Manchester United and I’m not surprised given the support on here.
Wum?
Him and Bruno in the same midfield against any competent team simply doesn't work, never has, never will. Two players with zero defensive discipline.
If you watch our last few games where its been a flat 433, it is extremely evident that Bruno does not have "zero defensive discipline".
No. I used to not like him much, but it's impossible to argue that he's not been sold false promises and wasted the best part of his career here.
Wut?! You do realize that's his choice and he's been HANDSOMELY rewarded financially for it? As for speaking up for players that are too professional to speak up for themselves...what about all the times pogba's made kissy faces towards Madrid, June etc? This is all quite apart from the fact that he's underperformed during his time here, given the talent he possesses.
The hyperbole is ridiculous
Good players get well paid wherever they go. He's not really underperformed, he's not been given the chance to perform as our team has been cack.
Sorry, but this is such a weird take. Feeling sorry for Pogba, despite the fact he chose all this, despite the fact he's been VERY well paid to do so, despite the fact that he's been making eyes at other clubs for years now, despite the fact that he's also underperformed (sorry, but in relation to his potential and level of talent, I find this tough to disagree with).
Perhaps it's weird to you. He didn't choose this in my opinion. He was sold a lie. Got a circus instead of a great club.
Why didn't he move, he's had many chances, I am pretty sure he extended his contract already once?
Back on the Pogba merry-go-round, but just watching him yesterday, not a great performance but the positions he drops in to to recieve the ball and back himself to maintain Possesion or find a pass is something none of our other midfielders can do.
I know at times doing this has caused him loads of problems but felt today especially in the first half he was moving the ball on much quicker than he has done previously and that’s what he needs to do and build on it.
Who knows if he’ll still be here, who’ll be in charge and will they even want to play Pogba but as per usual the enigma that is Pogba is back and will no doubt be causing headaches with glimpses of what could have been.
I know at times doing this has caused him loads of problems but felt today especially in the first half he was moving the ball on much quicker than he has done previously and that’s what he needs to do and build on it.
Who knows if he’ll still be here, who’ll be in charge and will they even want to play Pogba but as per usual the enigma that is Pogba is back and will no doubt be causing headaches with glimpses of what could have been.
Shown his quality and just a shame that somehow we have never consistently seen the best of him in a Utd shirt.
Nope, the club just triggered his 1 year extension as far as I know.
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