Last year Pogba was able to save the game against Newcastle... too bad he wasnt able to play today.
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Nah we’re fine with shit players running around a lot.
Think it's quite clear now that he isn't the problem.
Are you sure? I’ve had a few on here claim I’m just a Pogba supporter and not a utd one. The injury is the best thing that could have happened to Pogba, just highlights the absolute dross that’s around him and how he’s expected to do it all and somehow still gets the blame from some
He’ll still return and be expected to do it all. He’ll be the scapegoat, too.
Pogba played in a 1-0 defeat at Newcastle last year where Jonjo Shelvey made an utter cnut of him.
I’m not sure why so-called United fans are in the mood to gloat on his behalf today.
I’m not sure why so-called United fans are in the mood to gloat on his behalf today.
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For all the issues I have with Pogba, we sure as feck need his talent in this side.
He’s been an ever-present in our relegation run form too and put in some completely rancid performances during it. He’s our best creative player currently though so his absence hurts the team overall.
Yeah we desperately need him back.
Some people go on as though people just want to give him a free transfer and play Matic and Mata instead, however. The reality is some people think it’s worth cashing in at £150m and building a new midfield. I don’t think that’s exactly an outrageous position to take.
There is no gloating for sure. Just a regret that we're missing a player who could help
The responsibility he has in this team is too much for any midfield player. Created two chances against Arsenal, Peter Schmeichel said he should be creating 15. The midfield cannot move the ball forward at all without him.
He should get some respect at least. Fans and former players are constantly on his case. But the quality in this squad is embarrassing. No creative midfielder, in a deep position like he is playing, could thrive in this setup.
He should get some respect at least. Fans and former players are constantly on his case. But the quality in this squad is embarrassing. No creative midfielder, in a deep position like he is playing, could thrive in this setup.
Please leave in January already
Talent-wise, no. Attitude? Absolutely he is.
He’s a mercenary, and he’s had far too much power at the club; remember ‘Agent P’ pushing for Lukaku? Remember him declaring that Mourinho ‘fecked with the wrong baller’? It was more the club disposed of the wrong ego, and is now facing a battle to avoid getting to Christmas in the bottom 5.
Hope he gets his move this summer. Losing is bad enough to watch but when he plays it all gets put on him which just makes me sick to my stomach.
Thought he was terrible today.
Like a lot of our players, his best performances occur when he's not actually in the team.
Invisible. Bossed by the Longstaffs.
Seriously? You think he was the one who decided the club should go for Lukaku? And you actually believe The Sun's bullshit about him shouting "fecked with the wrong baller"?
ffs so now you think the club only signed Lukaku because of Pogba He hasn't even been playing, he isn't responsible for our recent league form. Leave it out
Seriously? You think he was the one who decided the club should go for Lukaku? And you actually believe The Sun's bullshit about him shouting "fecked with the wrong baller"?
I genuinely laughed out loud when I read that post. Incredible. Everyone that plays with or manages Pogba says that he's got a great attitude, yet some of our fans are desperate to paint him as a horrible human.
He’s still easily our best outfield player though. We should be signing competition for him to keep him hungry instead of folding and going hiding every time he’s out. He’ll be gone this summer anyway and who can blame him. I do agree he’s too moody for us given the position we are in but can you blame him? We are a shambles and it’s far far bigger than Paul Pogba.
Paul and David will be gone in the summer, and then we'll be down to zero star players. Can't imagine any will sign for us, either. He'll go on to be world class wherever he moves to, and it'll be painfully clear that he wasn't the problem.
David just signed a new multi-year contract...nice try though.
You never know with these money worshipping owners of us, they might be tempted to cash in for some revenue we'll miss out on if we fail to even play in the EL
Europa League isn't worth the money until the quarterfinal stage, that's when United realized significant money. I don't think David would be an alternate captain, which he has been whenever Young didn't start and he did, if he was going to be binned off next summer in an effort to cut costs.
I understand the thought behind it, but that would be throwing in the white towel by the owners yet still didn't pull the fighter out of the ring.
You are right, just meant it as in the EL would be the european competition we'd play next season if the starts aligned till the end of the season
I would like seeing United finish outside a European spot this year because it's less pressure on the squad and allows more time to focus on the domestic schedule, which is where everyone should be focused on. The squad is not good enough or worthy enough to play in Europe. It shouldn't be a priority right now if a full and competent re-build is on the cards.
Don’t think Europe is something we will be worrying about next season.
It's been a long time since that really meant anything in football.
Really, still?
Oh no poor Paul and poor Laughtersassassin - sick all the way to his wittle tummy.
feck me.
That's just nonsense, Pogba is a model professional and you won't find any of the coaches he's played for say otherwise, save for Mourinho who's not the best judge of character. It's people like you reading garbage media who make up stories about him that perpetuate this myth. I bet United were grateful that Pogba pushed for Lukaku, because I don't see a busload of good strikers rushing to come play for United, and it ended up working out for the club given they got a decent season out of him and got their money back once he stunk it up. It's just so boring to have to read the same nonsense every few pages on the player, complete character assassination.
Yes, model professional. When Mourinho was trashing him and calling him a virus, did you hear once from Pogba? No.
Has he ever downed tools in training? No.
You're simply not going to find a coach that's going to say he's not a model professional, even OGS his current coach is saying so, and he's had strict coaches like Allegri, Deschamps, and Conte before him, none of them who put up with the nonsense some of you claim he partakes in. So I'll take the word of those who deal with him every day than articles about him or his brother/agent.
Has he ever downed tools in training? No.
You're simply not going to find a coach that's going to say he's not a model professional, even OGS his current coach is saying so, and he's had strict coaches like Allegri, Deschamps, and Conte before him, none of them who put up with the nonsense some of you claim he partakes in. So I'll take the word of those who deal with him every day than articles about him or his brother/agent.
Yes, model professional. When Mourinho was trashing him and calling him a virus, did you hear once from Pogba? No.
Has he ever not given his best in training? No.
You're simply not going to find a coach that's going to say he's not a model professional, even OGS his current coach is saying so, and he's had strict coaches like Allegri, Deschamps, and Conte before him, none of them who put up with the nonsense some of you claim he partakes in. So I'll take the word of those who deal with him every day than articles about him or his brother/agent.
You can be frustrated about his performances, his price tag, etc....all valid, but you don't have to assassinate his character or professionalism to do so. He deserves criticism like the whole team does, but all that extra stuff is nonsense.
Can’t remember when he last give his best on the pitch never mind the training ground. He hasn’t scored a goal for nearly 8 months from open play. I don’t expect 20 a season from a midfielder but 5-10 would be a start for the most expensive midfielder in history.
I guess Fergie is a lying also?
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...all-news/man-utd-paul-pogba-ferguson-15211621
Fergie screwed up the Pogba situation, history and a world record transfer to bring him back has already settled that. His dislike was with Raiola, not many people like Raiola but he does a damn good job for his clients. That's got nothing to do with Pogba's character, it's business.
As far as his performances, I agree with you. However, he is the only player on this team capable of being world-class from the field, and he was pretty damn good when OGS took over until the team took a nosedive, him included. He has at least that capacity, you can't say the same for most of the guys he has around him. It's pretty easy to see, seeing United play without him, that he isn't the problem. If the argument is simply about the money that can be made from him leaving to buy several good players, then that's a sentiment I'd agree with.
Well the pogba/fergie/riola situation is open to argument. Do you disagree with Fergies assessment of riola after one meeting? (that’s what makes fergie a genius, he can assess a character after one meeting, now we have Woodward calling the shots who doesn’t know he’s the sucker in the room)
No issue with Pogba thinking he is too good to get on the team bus for the long journey back from Burnley because his chauffeur driven rolls is there though?
Our entire squad has been playing at half mast for six years straight. How can anyone possibly have the opinion that they're just individually unprofessional? That'd be some fecking coincidence. We've collected 25 players who - in many cases after stellar careers before joining us - suddenly cease to give a shit, to a man? There's a problem at the club, but surely noone can believe the problem is that we just happen to have hired nothing but disloyal mercenaries. Many of these players were great before we signed them, and will be great again when they move on. There's poison at Man Utd somewhere. It's not Paul Pogba.
Or are you also one of those people who think that every manager we've tried post-Fergie just happens to all have been inherently incompetent managerial failures? If your car blows a tire every time you drive, it's not because all the tires in the world are faulty. If every manager and player a club signs all fail, it's not because all managers and players in the world are incompetent. It's because this club is being run like a retail outlet.
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