Liver_bird
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Had a really good tournament.
Dunno why you're telling me to dry my eyes, I'm really not bothered.
All I'm saying is that its unnecessary. I literally said it wasn't a big deal, but he's just won a trophy and his first move is to mock the side who many of his teammates play for? Just celebrate your win without having a dig at another national team. I'm not suggesting they will be in bits over it, but it wouldn't endear me to a teammate if a week after I was knocked out of a tournament he was on social media mocking it.
Of course they know Pogba's a better player than them, what does that have to do with anything? He's a world class midfielder and one of the best players in the league, I'm not suggesting otherwise. I just think he's made a small mistake in deciding to have a little dig, it'll further antagonise the media which he already is clearly bothered by. Nothing major, but it will be remembered when he's having a poor run.
Its a bit unfair but I agree with the sentiment.Yeah, I thought Modric and Brozovic were the best CMs in the first half. It's a mystery why some people are saying how we're not seeing this Pogba for United, because he's shown exactly the type of player that the we've seen. He isn't someone who runs the game for 90 minutes but someone who can provide moments of great quality and be dominant for 20-30 minutes.
The pathetic ‘it’s come home’ has nothing to do with the players though, it was the English media and fans, who ended up getting a reality check.
He did not ‘mock the side’ or ‘have a dig’. He did not poke fun at the players and did not say anything about their defeat. He poked fun at the pathetic statement only.
Its a bit unfair but I agree with the sentiment.
If we were France and played like that we would be getting Pelter's on here right now.
Why can't we dominate the ball, no high press, we have Pogba and Greizmann as fullbacks etc. We shouldn't be letting a lesser side dictate the tempo, that first half shows us we need a midfield 3 to free up Pogba.
The only difference is France doesn't have Man City playing a few hours later destroying some poor side with KDB having 67 assists so we can all self hate and overly criticise to show how impartial we are.
I agreeIt's VERY telling that Pogba was brilliant playing in a deeper, disciplined MC/DMC role:
I hope this World Cup shows how ideal Pogba is for that position.
Then only time Pogba has produced top class numbers is in Serie A. His numbers dropped in the CL for Juve. And judging by his performances for both United and France, Attacking Midfield is not where you get the best out of him at the top level.
Let's stop trying to 'free' him. Instead, he should be our dominant midfield presence whose main role should be to free up the players ahead of him. Whatever teambuilding we do this Summer should be focused on that.
How can you not love this guy!
Possibly the pass of the decade.
You’re even worse at watching football than you are at cutting hair.Chuffed for him. Scored a goal but don't think he played that well
the attacking quality of ours back thenVeron hit one just like it for us to set up Becks for a goal (against Brum I think).
Yes Fred is a very good start. Fred is someone who makes a lot defensive interceptions. They will defend together and attack together. We need better players in attack though. Top class RW to stretch play on one side and a creative player.Fair enough. Let’s hope Fred at least does his stuff then; I can’t see United signing a whole lot more players.
We should be as our squad lacking the quality and our coach is lacking the understanding to make Pogba work the same he worked in France or Juve. Pogba is a pure luxury player as cherry on top of a functional team, not somebody you expect to carry a ruinReplace the lad with Savic eh?
Exactly. Unfortunately he dosent do it here alot.No more excuses.
If he doesn't show this level of determination and discipline next season, he can feck off.
No more excuses.
If he doesn't show this level of determination and discipline next season, he can feck off.
No more excuses.
If he doesn't show this level of determination and discipline next season, he can feck off.
No more excuses.
If our manager cant bring the best out of him, he can feck off.
Everyone says Mourinho uses him wrong and plays him in the wrong position, but Pogba has played a similar role for France all tournament...
He really hasn't but for argument sakes, even if we assume he has then deschamps is getting more out of him than mourinho.
During this tournament yeah. Pogba has looked more mature throughout. Pogba has shown in this tournament that he CAN do the defensive work and CAN be in deeper positions without it affecting him going forward that much.
Because he is playing in a different setup with different responsibilities. But if its that simple, why cant mourinho get him to do the same?
He is playing with better players IMO. I dont think the responsibilities are that different. Also, Pogba has played well for us, it’s just consistency issues.
France have been fairly ordinary going forward though. Be it down to Giroud but Mbappe and Griezmann weren't exactly drifting left and right to open up defences.He is playing in a 3 man midfield of sorts with two work-horses and two players with exceptional movement in the front three. That is nothing like the set-up he plays with at united which is why he has performed better.
A part of it has also been the world cup but the system enabled him to perform to the standard that he did.