Extend his contract ASAP.
He's been the best player in the league the past month or so.
He's been the best player in the league the past month or so.
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It’s almost laughable how easy he finds it at times to bully players. He’s so big and strong yet so technical at the same time.
Can’t believe people on here wanted rid a few months ago. Laughable.
Can’t believe people on here wanted rid a few months ago. Laughable.
Best player in the world right now?
Honestly, if this were an u18 game we would be saying its time to move up an age group, he's just too physically dominant and he needs to challenge himself.
I've never seen anything like this. He's like a Zidane and Vieria rolled into one.
I’m just praying he puts one in the top corner against Liverpool with Souness in the studio, the cnut.
‘There’s a player in there...’.
‘There’s a player in there...’.
Agreed. It’s men v boys.
It reminds of me of Yaya at City in his peak when no-one could deal with him physically.
I remember when we signed Fellaini and there was a discussion ahead of the first derby if Fellaini can match up to Yaya, and Yaya just bullied him.
yep...
These people still exist on here. They're just much, much less vocal now.
I can’t believe how good he has been since Mourinho was sacked. I genuinely had no idea he could be this good. I feel totally vindicated in the stick I gave him on this forum earlier in the season. The fact that he is this good now makes it all the more incomprehensible that could have been so shockingly bad on a regular basis for us. I mean feck the manager, what about professional pride, why play like that?
He may well be the best player in the league and I’m so happy he’s doing so well, but we should look for more than a month or even two months of good form before we start making long term decisions......
I see your point and agree to an extent, was just enjoying a great performance and those who wanted him out where blinded by Jose words.
Some interesting logic there
He's been one of our best players all season
Just imagine if we were stuck with Mourinho and his anti-football style, and sold Pogba to Barca or Madrid.
Then he's doing what he's doing right now week in week out on that white shirt, while we stuck watching the Fellaini's and Lukaku's and (some) matchgoers booing Martial as the next in line.
Thank goodness, the football god hasn't forsaken us.
Then he's doing what he's doing right now week in week out on that white shirt, while we stuck watching the Fellaini's and Lukaku's and (some) matchgoers booing Martial as the next in line.
Thank goodness, the football god hasn't forsaken us.
He's always been a great player, but I think two things haven't helped him under Jose - 1) Playing as a deep lying midfielder, when his skillset is best further forward 2) Getting publicly thrown under the bus by Jose, from getting stripped of the captaincy to being called a virus etc.
For me personally even when he was supposedly poor he was still one of our best players. Reality is his low level is higher than most of our players top level.
And now we are playing great football, winning games, and seeing happy face in players.
But still, some aren't convince with Ole, and want that other bloke who never win stuff albeit having one of the best team in the league. Who admitting himself that top 4 is more important than winning trophies.
He really wasn't shockingly bad. Hes been at the heart of all the good things we did for 2 years under the toxic one- this season included.
The correct word is 'restricted' . He was restricted but that didn't apply just to him, it applied to the whole team. Clearly a whole team doesn't underperform well beyond their potential on purpose.
By far the best outfield player we’ve had since 12/13 Van Persie.
World class.
World class.
Brilliant performance again.
Looking like a proper standout star of the league under Ole.
Looking like a proper standout star of the league under Ole.
Messi hasn't retired.
In any case slow down. He is clearly one of the form players. Let's see him do this for an extended period of time before we title him best player in world.
He's been in excellent form. Not just good form.
And he's been our best player the entire season.
People latched onto 1-2 poor games that he had and thought he was that bad the entire season.
They would have booed Martial all the way out of the club. Cheered for Perisic/Willian’s arrival, and then when Mourinho still underperformed, would turn their attention to whoever Mourinho labelled as the newest target to justify his failure.
Some swatches of our fanbase really really deserve Mourinho. The kind of devotion they showed to him and venom they spat at our best players, they deserve to follow Mourinho for the rest of his career and not enjoy watching players like Pogba and Martial.
It’s good that we have threadmarks for each game. Go through all the pre-Ole games and just look at the posts on the first page of each. Perhaps you, and some others, will be reminded that he had many great games even then. Contrary to current narrative, his season didn’t start December 19th. Not did Lindelöf, Martial or Rashford’s for that matter. All had played well prior to Jose leaving.
Pogba probably had 3 poor games or so.
In this form, he's unplayable, plain and simple. It's like someone's (much) older brother coming for the kick about in the park.
Maybe I’m in the minority but I thought he was excellent in the start of the season too.
Pogba has significantly improved since his time at Juventus, and our club is reaping the benefits.
Little to no doubt if this keep going, Pogba will eventually fulfill his potential as one of the greatest player to ever existed.
Exciting times!
Little to no doubt if this keep going, Pogba will eventually fulfill his potential as one of the greatest player to ever existed.
Exciting times!
I have him down for 20 goals and assists by the seasons end.
What an absolute star he is. If he keeps playing like this he walks the Balon d'Or voting.
What an absolute star he is. If he keeps playing like this he walks the Balon d'Or voting.
When Mourinho was sacked there a chorus of "nowhere to hide now" for players like Pogba. And boy, has he responded in style.
Thing is, France was a unique situation. It was easily the most talented team at the WC and was, obviously, a cup competition. So Pogba could sit back in a two. And even though he didn't bomb forward he had Kante and Matuidi also helping win midfield battles. But the team was better on paper against every opponent, with loads of quality behind and ahead of him.
In the long term, though, you cannot play Pogba in such a conservative role. The PL is not a cup competition and we don't have the luxury to be able to play one of the most gifted attacking midfielders in such deep areas.
And even disregarding position and such semantics, Pogba has been really outstanding under Ole. He is no longer being held back by the manager but aided by him. I'm sure he'll still have poor games and missteps but if a player this good is being benched something is seriously fecked up.
Thing is, France was a unique situation. It was easily the most talented team at the WC and was, obviously, a cup competition. So Pogba could sit back in a two. And even though he didn't bomb forward he had Kante and Matuidi also helping win midfield battles. But the team was better on paper against every opponent, with loads of quality behind and ahead of him.
In the long term, though, you cannot play Pogba in such a conservative role. The PL is not a cup competition and we don't have the luxury to be able to play one of the most gifted attacking midfielders in such deep areas.
And even disregarding position and such semantics, Pogba has been really outstanding under Ole. He is no longer being held back by the manager but aided by him. I'm sure he'll still have poor games and missteps but if a player this good is being benched something is seriously fecked up.
That can happen if certain set of supporters buy too much into manager bollocks, there has always been a bit of cult surrounding him wherever he's gone. It has happened at Madrid, where he convinced their fans Ramos, Casillas, etc. are monsters (well Casillas certainly was) but it came to the point they were happy to see them gone. Same thing at Chelsea, he convinced, Costa, Fabregas and Hazard are rats and need be sold. Chelsea fans were also okay with it. At United, he convinced few Rashford wasn't a natural striker, Pogba was a virus, Martial lacks the mentality etc. and good amount of posters bought into it.
Treat manager like any other employee, once you get too attached to them you can't see their flaws. Your fans are also guilty of it in the past with Benitez, Rodgers etc.
Messi is still playing at an absurd level and Ronaldo has been doing the business for Juve too. He's nowhere near yet, let's not get carried away.
Problem between him and Mourinho was of trust, he was never going to allow a player to get better of him.
I refuse to believe a manager who has won as much as him couldn't see Pogba's talent which was so obvious to the rest of us. He was possibly miffed seeing how well Pogba played in a midfield 2 for France and then complained to the media about his rather restricted role under him. What he forgot was WC is a rather shortish cup competition, plenty of great players in the past have made sacrifices for the betterment of the side.
I'm still unsure what to make of Pogba as a personality after 3 years tbh, all those interviews he did about him not being happy, his smile being lost etc. at the end of last season make me nervous with what's in store in the future. We'll do extremely well to get him to renew but I just have the feeling he's going to make it very difficult for us if he does renew.
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Virus indeed..
Of course he was.
Pogba started the season as, along with Shaw, our best player for the first month or so. Then he had a poor period, which to be fair did include one absolutely terrible game that he should get criticism for. Then he came good and was, along with Martial this time, again our best player for a while. The two of them, arguably the two most hurt and criticised by Mourinho, were the two who basically saved his job at a time it appeared he was about to be sacked. Then Pogba had another poor period, which once again did include one absolutely terrible match.
That was the timeline this season under Mourinho. Anybody who claims otherwise, either to make out Pogba was poor all season or that he wasn't poor at all, is letting bias get in the way of reality.
He was inconsistent, but no more so than any other player we have. Indeed, the fact that he had those two great periods meant he was ahead of anybody else overall, as we didn't have any other player at the time who had been good as much as he had. But when players are unhappy and mismanaged, surrounded by other unhappy players who aren't playing well, and the team as a whole is being put out with poor line-ups and poor tactical decisions, it's not exactly surprising that they are inconsistent.
You're not.
It's amazing how 3-4 bad games can wipe off a player's excellent games from memory, hell it was even Pogz and Martial that kept the toxic one in the job for so long (the feckers)
Feck you for posting the gist of my message in a much better way than I did... and right above mine to boot
Au contraire, everything makes sense as to why he was poor in some games. I completely disagree with your assessment of him being shockingly bad on a regular basis. That's just rewriting history. @MadDogg just made a very good post about it.
They bounce off him so easily. What impresses me so much is his passing when closed down, at times it's like "wtf did he just do". I mean some players I can "get" the idea behind their actions but Pogba belongs in a very special category of players who makes you go "wtf" with their passing.
I have a Ghanaian friend here in Atlanta who fits this discription.
When Paul is in form, he is really one of the best midfielders of the planet, absolutely unplayable. Opponents simply don't know how to stop him. Try to commit and tackle him, he will either fend them off/win a foul, try to block passing lanes and he will drive forward quickly, try to stop his dribbling, he will find an exquisite pass. The guy really can do it all.
He is as important to us as is Messi is to Barcelona, Prime Cristiano to Real. How could people simply want to let him go just because a pathetic shell of a once great manager tried to turn all against him.
He is as important to us as is Messi is to Barcelona, Prime Cristiano to Real. How could people simply want to let him go just because a pathetic shell of a once great manager tried to turn all against him.
He's basically been world class since he's been 20 odd
I don't understand posts like these. Slow down? He's won the world cup, league titles, got to CL and Euros finals.
He's not some kid that we have to wait and see develop, be was the most expensive player in the world for a period of time!
He's in that conversation.
In all seriousness, historically which midfielders have had similar styles to him? It almost feels like he has the goal scoring ability of a Lampard combined with the assist ability of a Scholes.
Lots of people were saying we shouldn’t build a team around this guy, and that he should be able to defend and do what midfielders do. I’ll admit I also thought the same. But feck me, his output is worth ‘sacrificing’ another midfielder whose job is to cover Pogba’s defensive responsibilities. Pogba is basically an attacking midfielder and second striker rolled into one. He performs two roles within a team.
Lots of people were saying we shouldn’t build a team around this guy, and that he should be able to defend and do what midfielders do. I’ll admit I also thought the same. But feck me, his output is worth ‘sacrificing’ another midfielder whose job is to cover Pogba’s defensive responsibilities. Pogba is basically an attacking midfielder and second striker rolled into one. He performs two roles within a team.
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