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2017-18 Performances


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6.1 Season Average Rating
Appearances
37
Goals
6
Assists
16
Yellow cards
5
Red cards
1
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Was an own goal tbf. But lets hope it gives him more confidence to impose himself more and more consistantly in games.
 
Been the best player on the pitch so far.
 
So good today. Couldn't believe he was getting singled out in the first half when he was their only player doing anything as well. He's a scapegoat for club and country.
 
If we were aggressively shopping Pogba it wouldn't be your brother's best friend (who is also a tennis coach) who breaks the news. Several outlets would have caught wind of it.

However I do believe Pep wasn't lying when he said Raiola offered him. Raiola shopping Pogba behind the club's back is exactly how we lost Pogba the first time so maybe Raiola is offering him on the downlow not the club

I'm sure Raiola has put his feelers out, which is probably what the original post is about if true.

I highly doubt United have offered him to anyone. He would be so difficult and expensive to replace, regardless of the criticism he gets.
 
So good today. Couldn't believe he was getting singled out in the first half when he was their only player doing anything as well. He's a scapegoat for club and country.
From BBC website "That's about all Pogba has done"
 
(At the risk of getting my head chewed off) Not really getting the 'see I told you so' stuff when it comes to Pogba.

Pretty run of the mill performance from him today. Underwhelming but still a moment or two of quality.

France look pretty poor though in general, despite their individual talent.
 
Done well today in a disjointed France team, even without the goal. Ridiculous how he's such a scapegoat for some.
 
(At the risk of getting my head chewed off) Not really getting the 'see I told you so' stuff when it comes to Pogba.

Pretty run of the mill performance from him today. Underwhelming but still a moment or two of quality.

France look pretty poor though in general, despite their individual talent.
In an underwhelming team. He's had a key role I'm both goals. Can't see how that can be anything otjot than a good performance.
 
From BBC website "That's about all Pogba has done"
To be fair, he could've done better for the penalty :wenger:
(At the risk of getting my head chewed off) Not really getting the 'see I told you so' stuff when it comes to Pogba.

Pretty run of the mill performance from him today. Underwhelming but still a moment or two of quality.

France look pretty poor though in general, despite their individual talent.
To each their own but even before his pass for the pen and Lampard special he was the only one for France doing anything. Played a couple of decent defence splitting passes that the forwards could've done better with, played some good passes to get France in good advanced positions, and didn't look lost in defence, which I know isn't that praise-worthy but we all know how bad Pogba can be when it comes to defending so credit to him.
 
Dont want to play the race card, but is everyones scapegoat a black dude when it comes to the English press?
 
His hair looks quite bland today.

It must have led to increased commitment leading to the contribution to the goal.
 
Dont want to play the race card, but is everyones scapegoat a black dude when it comes to the English press?

It's not a race card. I've acknowledged this before but it's unequivocal that much of the Pogba rhetoric is clouded by an undercurrent of racial stereotyping.

People that don't see this don't want to see it.
 
Shite today apparently, yet the best French player on the pitch and the only one who looked like making them do anything going forward.
 
His hair looks quite bland today.

It must have led to increased commitment leading to the contribution to the goal.

Didn’t even see a dab after the goal. Looks like the guy’s getting serious. Will have check his Instagram later to be sure though. :p
 
In an underwhelming team. He's had a key role I'm both goals. Can't see how that can be anything otjot than a good performance.

Depends how much criticism you direct his way for France being disjointed though, given they're playing Tolisso and Kante effectively to give him the platform I'm not sure he's done enough.

Not a bad performance, but I don't think he's really answered any of the questions either.
 
Dont want to play the race card, but is everyones scapegoat a black dude when it comes to the English press?

Only if you're trying to play the race card. Beckham and Rooney have been the historic targets....whoever the current Manchester United star is basically. Nothing to do with race.
 
Yeah didnt think he played that well tbh. Even for the pen, he underhit the pass (which incidentally was the reason the Australia defender lunged in, because he felt he had a chance). For the goal it was a good give and go but then let's be honest, he just tried to nudge the ball past the defender, he didnt even attempt a shot so it's a blatant own goal. Still though, should give him a lot more confidence and he definitely got better later in the game, as his first half was pretty shit. He needs to dominate games and make quick decisions instead of playing at such a relaxed pace.
 
He wasn't great, but I think it's down to him playing for a side with no attacking plan. Same problem he has playing for us.

Put him in a team with a clearly defined system going forward and he'll shine. Deschamps and Mourinho are both dull managers.
 
It's not a race card. I've acknowledged this before but it's unequivocal that much of the Pogba rhetoric is clouded by an undercurrent of racial stereotyping.

People that don't see this don't want to see it.
Such absolute horseshit. Can't criticise a black player now without being a racist apparently.
 
The pass to Griezmann leading to the pen was really, really good.
 
Depends how much criticism you direct his way for France being disjointed though, given they're playing Tolisso and Kante effectively to give him the platform I'm not sure he's done enough.

Not a bad performance, but I don't think he's really answered any of the questions either.
He's been instrumental in both goals. Isn't that exactly what he's in the team to do? Without him, France would have struggled to create anything.
 
He wasn't great, but he was far from bad. One of France's best players, albeit not saying much. Because of who he is, he'll always get stick, unless he plays every minute of every game the way he did in the 2nd half against City.
 
Dont want to play the race card, but is everyones scapegoat a black dude when it comes to the English press?
Maybe. But then how do you explain the fact that no commentator or pundit can ever watch a Chelsea game without mentioning how great Kante (just as black as Pogba) is?
 
Played the ball that resulted in the penalty, and scored (probably an own goal) the second.

To me, France's most important player today.
 
Showed his most likeable football trademark by making things look so easy, even with France playing on 2nd gear at best.
 
Such absolute horseshit. Can't criticise a black player now without being a racist apparently.

Criticising Pogba for a poor performance is fine. Criticising footballers (Pogba included) for haircut, 'flashy' lifestyle, music taste, cars and 'gangsta' image - all criticisms made in the public sphere in recent times - is absolutely to do with colour of skin. Subconscious or not.
 
People need to tamper their expectations. Not many midfielders in history who can control the midfield and then give attacking outputs in a team. He was French's best player today and carried them to a victory.
 
Dont want to play the race card, but is everyones scapegoat a black dude when it comes to the English press?
That's simply not true. Beckham was the national scapegoat for years until he scored that freekick against Greece. Rooney (and Ronaldo) was blamed in 2006. John Terry & his scandal was blamed for our failure in 2010

Who have been our black scapegoats? The Sun have a go at Sterling, that's the only one I can think of.

Pogba is a flashy, inconsistent, very well paid, Manchester United player. There is always going to be a different standard for him. The press never had a go at him when he was at Juve, it's nothing to do with his race.
 
He gets so down on himself when things don't work out and he loses the ball. He has to understand that as a risk taking player, he won't pull off every trick he tries but that doesn't mean he has to play less adventurously. I'd love for him to get more forward and play around the box.
 
My friend just made a really good comparison for him. Hes essentially like Rooney after 2010. His overall game is so inconsistent and meh all around, but he pops up with moments that can decide games and all is forgotten. The problem with that is that as a forward who scores and assists often, that's kinda fine but is still not ideal. As a central midfielder who scores 5-10 goals a season, it leaves a lot to be desired. I want my central midfielders to be consistent and reliable, which he hasnt shown he can be yet.
 
People need to tamper their expectations. Not many midfielders in history who can control the midfield and then give attacking outputs in a team. He was French's best player today and carried them to a victory.

Jesus you're good at playing with words.
 
People need to tamper their expectations. Not many midfielders in history who can control the midfield and then give attacking outputs in a team. He was French's best player today and carried them to a victory.
Carried them to victory :lol:
 
He's been instrumental in both goals. Isn't that exactly what he's in the team to do? Without him, France would have struggled to create anything.

He's in the team to create, sure, and France looked largely devoid of ideas throughout save one moment of quality and a fairly fortuitous deflection.

I also felt France largely showcased some of the issues United have had this season with their forwards given the ball too slowly, and wonder if the fact the same player is tasked with the same task in the two sides may be responsible. It would be foolish to draw too strong conclusions from one game, but it's an interesting thing to watch with France going forward.

I think he played alright, it might be that those issues are simply coincidences, but I simply think this was a fairly middling performance with some good and some bad which hasn't really shown anything to confirm or disprove opinions on Pogba.
 
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