Herrera is probably thinking the same about him. Left of a midfield three? That has to be the most specific position I've ever heard in my fecking life. Does the stage of the moon cycle have any impact?
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Herrera is probably thinking the same about him. Left of a midfield three? That has to be the most specific position I've ever heard in my fecking life. Does the stage of the moon cycle have any impact?
It seems to be one step forward, two steps back with Pogba. For me, the only time he really steps up a gear and not only plays better but enjoys it is when United are ahead. I just can't see the fight when we are down. Oh well, time will tell I suppose, although I was never as excited as some when we bought him. Talented player, but quite sporadic - certainly according to some Juve fans.
love seeing every ad break him winking at me with a new snazzy haircut
He has no idea defensively but he's not a #10 either, he has looked better coming from deeper in the last 2 games, I'm not getting on the drama train, he's 23 and very talented, he and Jose will figure it out.
Yeah I'm pretty sure he'll be all right, but needs to cut out some bad habits straight away, like stop messing with the ball when there's no need to and use the pass option. Must learn to be more disciplined.
Over complicates simply things time and time again.
Looked like lost puppy today.
He is really starting to annoy me. Every game he does show the odd glimpse of pure genius, but he seems fecking lazy at times and way to often does try some stupid fancy shit when he should keep things simple.
Why can't he just keep things simple and unleash the odd bit of skill every now and then, at the moment he reminds me of a kid in the playground, the type that won't pass as he feels he better than everyone else.
Poor today but he's only 23 and I'd say still learning, I reckon he'll get better and better, as fans, with the money associated with certain transfers, we expect miracles.
Absolutely.
The ability is there. He's shown in glimpses that he can play, I don't think that anyone is really doubting that. The issue is, he isn't doing it enough and he's spending large periods of the game floating around (out of position half the time) doing very little. As others have said, he overcomplicates things and appears to be unable to make good decisions consistently.
He's never a number 10 but when he plays in midfield he just doesn't demand the game. He has the ability to but he's not there yet and he has an awful lot of work to do IMO.
Amazing how often such a simple point needs to be repeated in this thread.
You heard it wrong then, I guess in Swahilli 'Poga' means goal and 'Poba' is goal attempt. You thougnt you heard Pogba. I don't remember his name during the game
.The grass length wasn't quite right for Pogba today, nor was the pitch level temperature optimal.
At the moment, he's a highlights reel player without the highlights.
At the moment, he's a highlights reel player without the highlights.
What he do could today? The midfield was disjointed, and Kante was on him all day long (like a stroll in the park for him as we didn't push their midfield). He was never going to unleash his long shots.
Pogba is the central midfield version of Quaresma.
Spectacular at times, anonymous most of the time.
Spectacular at times, anonymous most of the time.
Amazing the way people talk about our midfield as though Pogba isn't part of it. Of course, worryingly, he often isn't.
Flat track bully so far. Any quality up against him and he looks crap.
Well I am going by my judgment which is that Pogba is a luxury player that doesn't run the midfield, but excels when the midfield around him is working well. I.E. Fellaini and Herrera were doing the required leg work for him.
We've signed the Black Ray Wilkins - totally inert square ball anyone?
Had a few doubts about him over the summer - admittedly only based on seeing him for France and for Juve in the CL - and have seen nothing so far to make me think I was wrong. He seems to play in flashes, disappears when the going gets tough, and generally lacks the game intelligence to understand how to keep things ticking when he's not in a position to do something special.
We've signed a player who plays in central midfield that only excels when a bunch of other players do all the stuff you need your central midfield to do? Well ain't that just grand.
there was a recent clip with pundits including Emmanuel Petit, discussing the potential Pogba transfer. He, as a fellow Frenchman scoffed at the notion he is world class and not worth the hype. Found that very interesting at the time.
Another fine piece of transfer market recruitment from United.
It's as though we have a CEO desperate to sign marketable players irrespective of their fit for the team.
Against Liverpool he was partially excused since we were so deep. Today we were much higher, especially in the second half. Yet he failed to produce anything at all.
He needs to step it up, didn't even look strong today - got pushed around and lost a bunch of 50/50s. He had a few very good passes, but in general far far away from a good performance. Didn't think Fellaini, who played a bad game, was worse than this guy first 45.
He needs to step it up, didn't even look strong today - got pushed around and lost a bunch of 50/50s. He had a few very good passes, but in general far far away from a good performance. Didn't think Fellaini, who played a bad game, was worse than this guy first 45.
It is getting a wee bit worrying. I mean, I know we shouldn't harp on about the price tag...but if that is indeed what we have bought for that price, then by jove Juve have truly stuffed us....!!
Pirlo and Vidal in January window? Salvage top 4
I'm just saying what I personally see. You'll have to criticise the clubs transfer policy if you don't like that (assuming you agree). If you don't then by all means slate away...
Wasn't it Jose who really wanted him? Woodward just gave him what he wanted?
Play him on the left of midfield three and see him shine.
Just kidding of course.
I'm sick and tired of excuses. He has been poor. Sure the whole team has been poor but I still question his attitude. He waved with his hands few times when someone didn't pass to him.
Just kidding of course.
I'm sick and tired of excuses. He has been poor. Sure the whole team has been poor but I still question his attitude. He waved with his hands few times when someone didn't pass to him.
It's still early days. Plenty of time for him to come good. What's getting old, though, is this idea that doesn't have any responsibility for the effectiveness of our midfield unit. He's just as much to blame for a shit show like today as the usual whipping boy, Fellaini.
I'm looking forward to the two France games in November. That match against Holland was the only game this season where he showed this ability, and more than just a bit. It will be interesting to see if it was just a one-off, or if that DM role may possibly suit him and his general grasp of the game better.
In that case, it's more than a bit disconcerting that he doesn't have a clue how best to utilise him.
He's simply not doing enough, I don't think it's about position or formation etc, though, that is a factor. I want to see more determination & fight from him, right now, he's mostly just coasting through games, not good enough.
Looked tired.
He's repeatedly playing a central midfielder in central midfield. Outrageous.
Pogba's responsible for his own performances. Nobody else. It's really that simple.
That was also what he was doing in most reserve games and cameos before he left United the first time out, it's just the way he plays. It was unacceptable the way he just let Kante run off him for the 4th, he no longer has the likes of Vidal, Pirlo and Marchisio doing the heavy lifting in midfield for him to produce just the highlight reel moments.
Is it just me who hated how he just raised hands to let Kante through on goal, looked at him from behind, got close but decided to not do anything.
I agree that the player must take responsibility, and Pogba has been very up and down since re-joining. But even a blind man can see that JM doesn't really know what his best team is, which has led to loads of different permutations so far. I feel your argument would be better if it was just Pogba underperforming, but the vast majority of the side are playing badly, which suggests the system isn't right, and that reflects on the manager.
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