Wow that's as bad a post as I've ever read, congratulations on that
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To be completely honest I don't get the hate on this forum. He's played well recently and should have had 2 goals and 2 assists in the last 2 matches. Unfortunately luck hasn't fallen on his side. His actual Performances have been fine for me.
The bad part begins at the sentence that includes his father's sack and ends with Pogba not having technique of a professional footballer.
Still going through that growing pains process. He should be doing better but he's clearly nowhere near the finished article yet. Lots of learning yet to happen.
I know this. But he can play CM and should outshine the small time midfielders in the prem.
To be honest it comes with the territory. Forget the fee. He doesn't control that, but I just expect more. He was placed alongside Modric and Iniesta last season so it is not unreasonable to hope to see why he was placed on their level and thus far I don't get it.
I know he doesn't play like vieira, he has far more technique and skills than Patrick did. I just assumed that if you are in the top 3 CM in the world, these mere mortals in the premier league couldn't touch you. I guess I am asking for too much. If I was top 3 in my position, I would be miles better than my opposite number every game.
Comparing Fellaini to Pogba makes it appear you're wumming or don't watch much football.
After watching France tonight, I am starting to think that he is never even worth £89 million in the first place.
Just a rich man's Fellaini.
That's not exactly a scoop, rare are the players actually worthy of that much money.
I'm sure there isn't one. Fellaini doesn't have entourage and fan boys that PP has. So conversation between us two ended, I suppose.
Check my previous posts in my profile. And like I said, I've been watching him every week for the past three years. Not wumming in the slightest.
I think some of you guys have bought into the hype and world record fee - just like the thousands who posted when we signed Depay and Di Maria that we were signing the answer to our prayers. Both of them were expensive mistakes.
Unfortunately I'm more than old enough to remember the same hype when we've signed loads of players - right back to when we signed Graham Moore in the 1963 / 64 season, through Gary Birtles, Ted McDougal, etc. Even more recently, Seb Veron.
PP is OK. Better than we've had in MF the past few seasons. He's a good, solid EPL player - but that's all, and I'm not yet convinced that he won't be another very expensive mistake.
Hope I'm completely wrong - but there you go.
Proof that Caftards follow trends and bandwagons. All this place needs is just one lunatic to start a fire and all the mindless sheep follow suit like the ignorant posters they are.
Remember how 2 weeks ago comparisons between Pogba and Fellaini weren't on anyone's mind nor was it ever mentioned before? Well it just happened a week ago after the bad result against Stoke, some dude still going through meltdown likened Pogba to Fellaini. Of course such a comparison only highlighted how ignorant the poster in question was and wasn't really worth any rational posters time.
However the aftermath of such ignorance is that it creates this influx of equally ignorant posters whom predictably have been brainwashed by those nonsense and now are just repeating what they've heard like gospel, and that's how myths are created on the Caf(or the internet in general).
Suddenly you have all these posters likening Pogba to Fellaini. They read that thread last week, got easily brainwashed(typical and very predictable of ignorant posters) and now are repeating what they heard. It's been implanted in their brains, it's like inception
Remember how 2 weeks ago comparisons between Pogba and Fellaini weren't on anyone's mind nor was it ever mentioned before? Well it just happened a week ago after the bad result against Stoke, some dude still going through meltdown likened Pogba to Fellaini. Of course such a comparison only highlighted how ignorant the poster in question was and wasn't really worth any rational posters time.
However the aftermath of such ignorance is that it creates this influx of equally ignorant posters whom predictably have been brainwashed by those nonsense and now are just repeating what they've heard like gospel, and that's how myths are created on the Caf(or the internet in general).
Suddenly you have all these posters likening Pogba to Fellaini. They read that thread last week, got easily brainwashed(typical and very predictable of ignorant posters) and now are repeating what they heard. It's been implanted in their brains, it's like inception
I'm not at all worried about Pogba, he will definitely come good.
SANTORYO.
Your comments about ' Proof that Caftards follow trends and bandwagons ' etc....
I think you have rather eloquently proved my point for me, even if you didn't mean to.
The bandwagons that insist by the thousand that Rooney, Rojo, Fellaini and Schneiderlin are crap.
And the bandwagons that insisted by the thousand that Depay, Herrera and Periera should have played every match last season.
And the bandwagon which continues to insist that Depay will one day come good.
And this bandwagon which continues to insist that PP is going to be the best thing since beer was invented.
There are lots of bandwagons on Redcafe and all of us on here have, and are entitled, to our own opinions.
But it is equally moronic for you to call someone a 'lunatic' or 'ignorant' just because his / her opinion isn't the same as your own or the sheep in the bandwagons you refer to.
Your comments about ' Proof that Caftards follow trends and bandwagons ' etc....
I think you have rather eloquently proved my point for me, even if you didn't mean to.
The bandwagons that insist by the thousand that Rooney, Rojo, Fellaini and Schneiderlin are crap.
And the bandwagons that insisted by the thousand that Depay, Herrera and Periera should have played every match last season.
And the bandwagon which continues to insist that Depay will one day come good.
And this bandwagon which continues to insist that PP is going to be the best thing since beer was invented.
There are lots of bandwagons on Redcafe and all of us on here have, and are entitled, to our own opinions.
But it is equally moronic for you to call someone a 'lunatic' or 'ignorant' just because his / her opinion isn't the same as your own or the sheep in the bandwagons you refer to.
It's daft to call things trends or bandwagons. There's generally one of three opinions on any player. You rate him, you think he's alright or you think he's gash.
The majority of people are probably going to side somewhere near the one closest to the truth and that's going to shape the overall forum opinion. It's not a bandwagon it's wisdom of the crowd.
The majority of people are probably going to side somewhere near the one closest to the truth and that's going to shape the overall forum opinion. It's not a bandwagon it's wisdom of the crowd.
It's bandwagon when someone likened Pogba to Fellaini especially since they have nothing alike about their games. And this all started because one ignorant poster decided to make a thread about it and let it known there are people stupid enough to hold opinions such as Pogba being a similar player to Fellaini.
Suggesting he's technically on the same level as Fellaini, fecking hell
One ignorant poster started it last week, unfortunately you have equally ignorant posters who picked it up and are now screaming it like gospel.Suggesting he's technically on the same level as Fellaini, fecking hell
Or compare him to another player who shares none of his qualities?
lol you are 100% trolling arent you. There are Youtube videos of unknown players in relatively small leagues and you think a guy who has played in the Prem for 9 seasons wouldn't get a video highlighting his skills because he has no fanboys? How can two players be alike and yet one have fanboys and the other have none?
This, I disagree with.
If you look at the most recent, biggest transfers:
Bale - he delivered the goods and helped create/score goals
Neymar - part of the best attack, in the World
Suarez - part of teh best attack, in the World.
Higuain - absolutely fantastic player, who is quite clearly the most lethal striker in Italian football.
Pogba - not really doing anything particularly special.
Can you name me another, recent big money transfer which has gone bad? I'm all ears.
The idea of a Galactico class player is that he immediately raises the level of the team. I saw Pogba do this in the first game he played with us. He was rampant and it was obvious he was the star man.
The problem is that since that game, he has not put in that sort of performance.
Di Maria maybe?
Except none of the players you mentioned did light out houses straight away. All the players you mentioned took bedding in time and they became particularly remarkable either during the second half of the season or their second seasons.
There were posts in this very boards about how Neymar was an overrated player who could only shine in Brazilian league but couldn't cut it in Spain. These talks were happening during Neymar first season at Barca. He didn't go straight into Barca line up and delivered consistently world class performances. It was a bumpy ride. Same with all the remaining players you mentioned.
I mean Suarez scored his first goal in December or something close to that(though the ban had a factor in this). Bale wasn't delivering immediately. What they all had in common were flashes of their brilliant but just couldn't put things together to deliver top class performances consistently. Took some of them the second season to show their true worth and you ought to be aware of that, saying otherwise would be lying.
Now here we are 7 games in the season, and like the name mentioned Pogba has been inconsistent with bit of flashed showing his potential. However you chose to ignore all that and pretend any of the name you mentioned just walked in and straight away delivered when that couldn't be any further from the truth.
Bringing up those names is actually in Pogba's favor in this mad debate rather than the other way around like you seem to think.
What is your point exactly? Pogba isn't at that level and rare are the players at that level and it's even rarer to find 23 years old midfielders at that level.
Pogba's price isn't going to magically accelerate his development or give him qualities that he doesn't hold.
You do realise Bale wasn't very good for Madrid in his first season with them right? The fans boo-ed him.
He's played 8 games for us. Suarez was dump when he started for Barca, Bale took months to settle and Huigain is in his prime, in a league he's settled in playing for the champions.
Get a fecking grip man.
Pogba is as good as anyone that has ever played football technically and I'm not even exaggerating. He's a million times the player felliani is and frankly it's ridiculous to claim that if he wasn't 6,4 he wouldn't be a top player. This post will only look worse as we watch him develop further.
It's probably best not to stand by such drivel. Newbie system isn't working well it seems.
You are exaggerating as weird as some of the views against Pogba in this thread are.
His technique is flawless really, that's not where any of his problems come from
The second bit is true and he is technically excellent, but he's obviously no Maradona, Messi etc in terms of technical quality.
I don't think it's his technique that prevents that more his build and physique. He's never going to be able to get that low centre of gravity dribbling like the players you mentioned but his technique is undoubtably top class. I think he's on a level with most of the best CMs on a technical level but that doesn't mean I think he's close to their overall level because there's clearly so much more to football.
He's just going to ignore this and continue on his rant about Pogba. This has been pointed out to him several times but so far he's kept on ignoring it.
You're talking to someone who is displaying an extreme level of bias and stupidity.
I hope so.
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Like I said, moronic.
When we find the balance in our midfield, we will see the best of Pogba. I think he's absolute quality, he was wasteful against Stoke but that was just one of them days for the team in general. For him to be mentioned in the same sentence as Fellaini in this thread is a joke, a fecking bad one at that. He's technically fantastic and some people in here need to calm down. It's October give him time, some of you lot are worse than Liverpool fans banging on about winning the league in September.
We have a big month coming up and I hope Jose keeps consistently with his team selection. We have a really good side this year and are playing much better football overall. Good results against Liverpool, Chelsea and City could change things. I can't wait to see Pogba play live at the end of the month. Pogba is the best midfielder we have had in many years, we need to give this side time to settle. We are much better than the media are saying. A draw against City and a win against a very lucky Stoke would have changed opinions. Football fans are very reactionary, week to week they change there entire opinion on a team and a player. I'm happy we have such an exciting squad, we will only improve as the season progresses. It's all about getting results at this time of the season, the performances are getting better. Pogba will prove the haters wrong, people need patience.
We have a big month coming up and I hope Jose keeps consistently with his team selection. We have a really good side this year and are playing much better football overall. Good results against Liverpool, Chelsea and City could change things. I can't wait to see Pogba play live at the end of the month. Pogba is the best midfielder we have had in many years, we need to give this side time to settle. We are much better than the media are saying. A draw against City and a win against a very lucky Stoke would have changed opinions. Football fans are very reactionary, week to week they change there entire opinion on a team and a player. I'm happy we have such an exciting squad, we will only improve as the season progresses. It's all about getting results at this time of the season, the performances are getting better. Pogba will prove the haters wrong, people need patience.
Am I the only one that thought Pogba played well against Stoke but his missed chances skewed peoples opinions?
It's pathetic the reactionary and outright nonsense statements that some people spew on the caf, it's understandable a good amount have never played competitive football but it's like they don't really watch the game. I wouldn't be surprised if they watch on a separate screen while playing games on another and only pay attention when a goal is scored, and then rely on other people's opinions later to form their own about teams and players.
Why? Pogba did show some poor technical attributes at Juventus here and there. He sure tripped on the ball when he tried be fancy and lost it from time to time.
And this warrants comparison to Fellaini?
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