You are clearly high on crack if you think Pogba is technically average.
Ps - Comparison with Fellaini is one of the worst observations of a footballer ever, anywhere. Again, lay of the drugs!
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You are clearly high on crack if you think Pogba is technically average.
Ps - Comparison with Fellaini is one of the worst observations of a footballer ever, anywhere. Again, lay of the drugs!
Your point being? Everyone loses the ball from time to time trying to do things. Real football isn't FIFA.
Anyone saying Pogba has poor technical attribute isn't worth taking seriously. Pogba is one of the most technically gifted player out there, saying otherwise shows ignorance.
Did you watch Juventus throughout the season until last year? I did. My point is even he trips on ball when he tries to be fancy so what is the point of praising him so highly about his techniques?
I think you're the one on crack for misreading what I wrote. What I said what even he loses the ball trying to be fancy. You should stay off the drugs, @$$hat.
You're overreacting; Neymar and Suarez play with Messi, and Bale plays with Ronaldo - two of the all time greats; Higuain plays for the best team by far in Serie A. Three of them are in their prime, with Neymar still developing. Pogba would look unreal next to Messi and Iniesta. He'll develop into one of the top midfielders in the world with time.
The bolded part is pure confirmation bias - you've listed a few successful big money transfers. I can list plenty which have gone bad, or not hit the ground running - Torres, Kaka, Zlatan (Barca), James (to Real), Falcao (Monaco).
Even when he was at the academy Pogba was a technically brilliant kid, anyone could tell. He's only gotten better since then.
What with this sudden ridiculous belief from some(albeit very small numbers) that Pogba is somehow this average player when it comes to technique. He's one of the most beautiful player to watch game wise and blessed with top technical abilities, something that could have been since since he was at the academy.
Saying Pogba is technically average is like saying Messi dribbling is crap or Zidane's touch is mediocre and those level of nonsense. People might cry that so far Pogba is defensively suspect, goes in and out of games, sometimes try too much etc, but technical abilities is the last thing people should be worried about when it comes to Pogba.
Saying something many times doesn't make it true.
Actually the ones he listed didn't hit the ground running after 7 games either. Not to mention that guy is already assuming that Pogba is some kind of flop after 7 games played into the season.
Talk about overreacting
I cannot believe his technical abilities are in question. I cannot remember the last bad touch he had.
The one where Rooney hit it through his laces at him from 15 yards away?
Let me rephrase: I cannot remember the last bad touch he had that was entirely his fault.
And if he did have one, I guess I've a short memory.
You're funny. My opinion was formed by watching him play at Juventus. Sure, he must be technically advanced but whenever he played great he kept everything simple like he did against Leicester. Whenever he tried to be fancy, it didn't end all too well. I'm not worried about his technical attributes or whatever. I just think he's mot a fancy all-star kind of a player and people are overhyped about him.
Actually that was Memphis.
If I am to point some sloppy touches from Pogba then there is the one he had just before the pass to Zlatan to put him on goal, there is also his debut match against Saint where it almost lead to a goal. But that's not really an issue because sometimes lack of concentration lead to touches like that no matter how good one is. Every player, even the best have those rare moments.
To be fair Pogba has had quite a few sloppy touches in each game so those criticisms are valid. Whilst he should take the majority of the blame, some of it is because he wants to be on the front foot, be creative and be progressive.
It's easier to have a good touch with the intention of stopping it and passing it on, when your deep in your half with no pressure like Carrick does. Pogba's sloppy touches tend to be around areas when he's on the edge of the box or surrounded by players (that he put himself in) because he wants to have momentum with the ball so he can drop a shoulder, dribble in stride, pass with movement etc.
I know it may sound like I'm defending him but I can see where the intention is. Is it dangerous that he's doing it? Yes but he absolutely has the technique and ability to do it so personally I'm happy for him to do it. Part of the reason why people clamour for a midfield three with him higher up is that he doesn't have to do those risky manoeuvres in deep midfield situations where he's in two minds about being defensively disciplined but wanting to be creative. So the criticism is whytf is he doing that i.e being fancy/creative in those situations?
That's another argument but again I'm happy for him to do it. What's the point of a player of his calibre being positionally sound and being a tempo setter in a midfield two? One of our problems breaking down teams is that we're not dominant creatively in the middle i.e we tend to go wide because it's easier. Zlatan drops deep but he is reliant on service and the movement of the wide forwards. Mata has great passing ability but he's not gonna be a 'driving' force (i.e he's about passing and movement) so we're really static centrally speaking. That's why we've been clamouring for Rooney to be dropped and for Miki/Pogba to take up that space outside the box, higher in the opposition half.
Stylistically he is a perfect fit for us. Robust, technically gifted and can be productive with goals and assists. The question is how do we get the best out of him and players like Miki, who is also of that similar mould.
It's easier to have a good touch with the intention of stopping it and passing it on, when your deep in your half with no pressure like Carrick does. Pogba's sloppy touches tend to be around areas when he's on the edge of the box or surrounded by players (that he put himself in) because he wants to have momentum with the ball so he can drop a shoulder, dribble in stride, pass with movement etc.
I know it may sound like I'm defending him but I can see where the intention is. Is it dangerous that he's doing it? Yes but he absolutely has the technique and ability to do it so personally I'm happy for him to do it. Part of the reason why people clamour for a midfield three with him higher up is that he doesn't have to do those risky manoeuvres in deep midfield situations where he's in two minds about being defensively disciplined but wanting to be creative. So the criticism is whytf is he doing that i.e being fancy/creative in those situations?
That's another argument but again I'm happy for him to do it. What's the point of a player of his calibre being positionally sound and being a tempo setter in a midfield two? One of our problems breaking down teams is that we're not dominant creatively in the middle i.e we tend to go wide because it's easier. Zlatan drops deep but he is reliant on service and the movement of the wide forwards. Mata has great passing ability but he's not gonna be a 'driving' force (i.e he's about passing and movement) so we're really static centrally speaking. That's why we've been clamouring for Rooney to be dropped and for Miki/Pogba to take up that space outside the box, higher in the opposition half.
Stylistically he is a perfect fit for us. Robust, technically gifted and can be productive with goals and assists. The question is how do we get the best out of him and players like Miki, who is also of that similar mould.
@Full bodied red Just because you can name drop players from the 60s doesn't make you an authority on how technical players are. The "I'm older than you so I know more than you" tone isn't impressive. There are loads of scouts who know players ability better than you and all of us and still get it wrong. I know an opinion is just that, but surely the comparison to Fellaini is a wum?
He was given only 4 by L’Equipe in their post match ratings yesterday, the lowest of any France player. Wish I could say they were wrong but I watched the game specifically to watch Pogba and unfortunately they were spot on.
This certainly doesn't help
He was certainly one of our better players and I doubt we'd have played as well without him
No. He has been good in the last three games he has played. His first touch around penalty area has been good, his one touch passing has been good, his passing in between the lines has been inventive, he has created chances that weren't taken by players and he himself got into positions where he could have had a few goals.
It is just the people who dont have two brain cells in between them, who can only see a price tag, a drawn match, a guy who stands out because of his physicality, way he plays and arrive at the baffling conclusion that one of world's most sought after player is crap all of a sudden. I guess their analysis (
) of a player's performance is limited to those highlights where he couldn't head the ball in. Given their attention span of a goldfish and a very average footballing knowledge, it is no suprise really.Why is reading such a problem for some? Saying Pogba is average technically like Fellaini is really daft. If you think "he tripped on the ball a few times" makes you technically mediocre , then you you're apparently not too fond of logic.
Yes that's the reason. Oh dear this is some low level posting.Jesus, Jose should be resting him for the EFL cup and Europa. That's way too many games for a player his age
Did he now?! He tripped on the ball HERE AND THERE, trying to do something flashy while at Juve? That must surely mean he has played bad for United in last few games. That automatically means he was never worth the fee paid for him either. Screw the worldies he scored or the fact that Juve fans adored him and how he has been a mainstay in the French team from a very young age. I pity those blind fools who keep picking him in the squad despite being experienced international and club coaches. How can they not see on the training ground what avid observers have been seeing for so many years on the pitch. Maybe because us lot have "actually watched him play for juve" while the managers, fellow players, and United supporters simply go with facts. What bellends
. They don't analyze his haircut either. It is as atrocious as Fellaini's. Although there is day and nights difference between the two players in terms of first touch, quality of long balls, quality of long shots, involvement in build up play, agility, skill, balance, speed, determination, dribbleing, passing in between the lines and in tight spaces etc but how can no one see that they are both above 6 feet tall and play in midfield and hence are very comparable. Does my head in I am telling you . I hope the fraud is exposed for what he is in the coming days and we can go back to playing Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin - the schmeidfield. They sure never lost the ball every now and then, didn't really ever try anything other than passing sideways and we dominated possession . The good old days.Just smashed one in for France from long range. Keeper should have saved it, but still, it's good to see him scoring, won't do his confidence any harm.
Loved the celebration! More of the same vs Liverpool please!!!
More of the same vs Liverpool please!!!The poor guy, you can see he doesn't even celebrate it that much given how much he's been haunted by the papers lately.
Has been outstanding so far. Even without the goal, his passing has been top notch.
The arrogance on him. Love it.
Great goal, by the way.
Great goal, by the way.
He's probably screaming in his head "feck you snakes" to the media . The french media have been on his case lately.
. The french media have been on his case lately.He has played well. No doubts over this guy.
Thought he was good even before the goal. Nothing outstanding but doing things well with barely any trouble.
Isn't the same true for every player who played in the Euros? Actually, didn't he get more time off afterwards than most of them?
Anyhoop. Delighted he scored. Keeper should have done better but it was a vicious strike. Seems to be a confidence player so the timing is excellent.
Hopefully this re energizes him to get him ready for next Monday against Liverpool. Pogmad should be ready to smash those pogboom at Anfield
Feck me that moved.
The holiday part is, but I doubt the amount of matches part is matched by too many. 73 matches in 400 odd days sounds pretty excessive.
Goal keeper should have done better but by Christ the thing was hit hard and moved all over the place.....
What a pass.
He's been fantastic tonight. Really shown his full passing range
The ball over the top or the left foot first time to put Kurzawa in?
Thank God he's tall though.
Typical fellaini performance. Ready made replacement for him when he gets/banned injured. I just hope he improves his technique though.
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