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2016-17 Performances


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51
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9
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6
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How come? With Juve he managed 10 a season in all competitions his last couple of seasons in a much weaker league.

He's already scored 6 here.
It might be perceived as a weaker league but tactically its better so he didn't get the chances he gets here with this much regularity.
 
He's been bossing games for a while now but I'm quietly happy he isn't getting mainstream media credit since every week he goes out and plays like he's got something to prove.
 
Worth noting Zidane was still at Bordeaux for another season at Pogba's age. Pogba has phenomenal potential as a midfielder so why not make big predictions?
He's no Zidane and doesn't have the potential to reach that level.
 
He's no Zidane and doesn't have the potential to reach that level.

We'll have to agree to disagree, he's got it all. Pace, power, physique, personality, technique, defence, attack, stamina, shooting, heading, tackling and general reading of the game. He's 23 years old, Zidane didn't have anything like his profile at this stage. I guarantee if you scouted both at the same age you'd be leaning towards Pogba so to claim he doesn't have the potential to reach Zidane's levels is daft.

Obviously it's only potential until he realises it though.
 
He's no Zidane and doesn't have the potential to reach that level.

Well, that's that then.

Also, do you have the lottery numbers for next week?

It might be perceived as a weaker league but tactically its better so he didn't get the chances he gets here with this much regularity.

And I'm sorry that's absolute bullshit. If the league was more tactical how come there are much better managers in the Premier League? Your talking out of your arse and basing that assumption on stereotyping that all Italian teams are tactical juggernauts.

He's having a good season and we don't really know his potential until he hits it some point. No point saying he's next Zidane, or vice versa that he will never reach a level like that. We don't know. Just enjoy his good form.
 
He is a different player to Zidane. I think Zidane was more attack minded whereas Pogba is a bit more of an all rounder.

Also we don't need to compare him to Zidane. Not many will hit those heights but you can still be a great player
 
He'll reach zidane's level when he starts losing his hair :) . Just don't do hair transplant like Rooney did
 
He's no Zidane and doesn't have the potential to reach that level.
he has a higher potential than Zidane who was hardly as complete as Pogba now..

basically complete package of skills of all sorts, playmaking, finishing, flair, long shots, basically the best passing range in the game, athleticism and sheer power, he's basically going to be one of the most complete players you've ever seen, he's not far away to master some of his abilities and then he can overcome Zidane but hard to compare two players from different teams and ages, especially when Zidane at 23 was still in France..

this is only the beginning but last few games we have seen what he can do and one can say he's wonderful talent of the highest level. He will certainly compete for the balloon d'or for the rest of his career, once we kick on and start winning things and he will be seen on a bigger stage like Champions league
 
Zidane is arguably the most complete attacking player of all time, but Le Pog's already the most complete CM of his generation.

One thing's for sure. In between Eric, Paddy, Pogba and Martial, we've got a lot to be thankful for to the French :drool:
 
Pogba reminds me a lot more of Falcão (in flashes) from the 1982 Brazilian side than Zidane.




Does have some way to go before reaching the Brazilian's temperament, consistency and ability to impose himself on the game, but Pogba has all the tools and time on his side.
 
He's been a joy to watch, one of the most unique talents I've seen at Utd. The next step for him is to consistently impose himself on the big matches, hopefully beginning against the Scouse in a few weeks :). A rest in at least one of the cup games coming up would do him good.
 
He'll never be able to prove that he's worth being the most expensive player in the world on stats like Ronaldo did or Messi could were he ever to be sold but he's so brilliant to watch when he's on form.

Just so comfortable with the ball at his feet and surrounded by pressure. He has so many little flicks and drags to get himself out of trouble and onto the front foot. Great to see someone so unflustered by the opposition.
 
He'll never be able to prove that he's worth being the most expensive player in the world on stats like Ronaldo did or Messi could were he ever to be sold but he's so brilliant to watch when he's on form.

Just so comfortable with the ball at his feet and surrounded by pressure. He has so many little flicks and drags to get himself out of trouble and onto the front foot. Great to see someone so unflustered by the opposition.
Nah, I don't agree with that. For sure he's not gonna score 50 in a season, but football is more than just goal and assist stats. Say if we win 3 titles in a row and a CL along the way, with Pogba being the talisman the way Ronaldo was for us 2006-2009, then he's worth being the most expensive player in the world. Or if we are to dominate the PL like we did under SAF in the next 10-15 years, with Pogba being the maestro in midfield, then he's worth being the most expensive player in the world. It doesn't have to be just about goals or assists.
 
Nah, I don't agree with that. For sure he's not gonna score 50 in a season, but football is more than just goal and assist stats. Say if we win 3 titles in a row and a CL along the way, with Pogba being the talisman the way Ronaldo was for us 2006-2009, then he's worth being the most expensive player in the world. Or if we are to dominate the PL like we did under SAF in the next 10-15 years, with Pogba being the maestro in midfield, then he's worth being the most expensive player in the world. It doesn't have to be just about goals or assists.

No I meant that I agree with what you've said. Ronaldo and Messi changed the measures by which a Balon D'or winner or the world's most expensive player is judged by. Statistics.

Pogba purely by virtue of the position he plays and the type of player he is will never be about the statistics so he's hopefully going to change the perception of what makes the greatest player back to what it used to be. He'll undoubtedly prove to be worth the money if he does as you say and inspires us towards titles and dominance.

Doesn't mean Ronaldo and Messi aren't some of the greatest players ever aside from the statistics but it's unarguable they've been judged on them over the past decade.
 
I don't understand why his face picture at the top of this page can't be changed. Is it some sort of running joke?

Now I've said that it probably won't be changed for 10 years!
 
No I meant that I agree with what you've said. Ronaldo and Messi changed the measures by which a Balon D'or winner or the world's most expensive player is judged by. Statistics.

Pogba purely by virtue of the position he plays and the type of player he is will never be about the statistics so he's hopefully going to change the perception of what makes the greatest player back to what it used to be. He'll undoubtedly prove to be worth the money if he does as you say and inspires us towards titles and dominance.

Doesn't mean Ronaldo and Messi aren't some of the greatest players ever aside from the statistics but it's unarguable they've been judged on them over the past decade.
OK I get what you're saying and agree with you. Which means I have nothing else to add unfortunately :).
 
He's no Zidane and doesn't have the potential to reach that level.
lol, Pogba is a ballon d'or winner potential. The guy is ridiculously and extremely talented.

And if ever the perception of ballon d'or were to change and go back to usual and not just focus on scoring goals, Pogba could potentially win one.

It seems you can't tell rare talent when you see it, even when shoved at your face.
 
I don't understand why his face picture at the top of this page can't be changed. Is it some sort of running joke?

Now I've said that it probably won't be changed for 10 years!


Raoul / Nialler find it funny. I agree with you.
 
If we start winning trophies again Pogba certainly has enough in him to possibly reach Zidane's height. It's not like Zidane is Messi/Ronaldos/Pele/Maradona. He's a great player but we used to have those players before in our club, even some originated from the academy.
 
Zidane is arguably the most complete attacking player of all time, but Le Pog's already the most complete CM of his generation.

One thing's for sure. In between Eric, Paddy, Pogba and Martial, we've got a lot to be thankful for to the French :drool:

Until I saw Paddy there I figured you meant Bailly and were thanking France for their colonisation of Cote D'Ivoire :nervous:
 
How come? With Juve he managed 10 a season in all competitions his last couple of seasons in a much weaker league.

He's already scored 6 here.
It's not that he's scoring the same amount that he scored in Turin, it's that Pogba gets so many shots a game. If you think of all the goals Lampard got in Mourinho's 4-3-3, why isn't Pogba, with all his talent, capable of the same? And if he wants to win the Ballon d'Or, 15-20 goals a season might be the way to achieve it.
 
Pogba reminds me a lot more of Falcão (in flashes) from the 1982 Brazilian side than Zidane.




Does have some way to go before reaching the Brazilian's temperament, consistency and ability to impose himself on the game, but Pogba has all the tools and time on his side.


:angel:

My post regarding one game (Remake drat)

The Brazilian team is a mess :( because:

- I would have tried Pogba in the role of Falcao: very fan of this analogy. Pogba is not a playmaker (like Socrates) and his read of the game/composure is limited.
- The super star Zico to be replaced by the only one current Brazilian star Neymar
- Socrates (very challenging I willingly concede) to be replaced by a classical playmaker or AM: De Bruyne could have done the job
- Eder by a wing/forward left-footed
 
Never heard a French journalist saying 'Pogba is the new Zidane'.

Here, some thought Nasri, Meghni, Marvin Martin were the potential new Zidane. :smirk:
 
Pogba has the potential to be even better than Zidane. How close minded can you be to suggest that he will never be as good as Zidane?
Who thought that young spotty lad we signed from Lisbon would go on to become Real Madrids top goalscorer and arguably their best ever player?
The annoying part of discussions regarding great great players is that opinions vary massively. Then again that is what makes it great as well!
We will have to see. I personally think Zidane was a one off but certain aspects of Pogbas game are already better than Zidanes.
 
He's no Zidane and doesn't have the potential to reach that level.
You are quick to label Delle Alli of all youngsters as the English Thomas Muller but say Pogba doesn't have to potential to reach Zidane's level! Your rating of young players is bizarre.
 
Zidane is actually a strange case. He had 3 tournaments that he was sublime in during his peak(WC98, Euro 00, CL 02) but for the rest of the time can be quite inconsistent, before nearly singlehandedly dragged France to another WC. However, he was just phenomenal when he turned it on and I think bar fat Ronaldo and Messi no one else has a claim better than him as a big match performer in my lifetime.

It's up to Pogba what sort of player he'd rather become, someone like Zidane who lives for the big moments and run the show with the whole world watching on, or a consistent, more low profile player who can be the essential cog in a prolonged period of dominance for Utd like a Roy Keane. I'd rather the latter but think he might turn out to be more of a highlight player.
 
If we start winning trophies again Pogba certainly has enough in him to possibly reach Zidane's height. It's not like Zidane is Messi/Ronaldos/Pele/Maradona. He's a great player but we used to have those players before in our club, even some originated from the academy.

So happy you added an 's' on the end there. Ronaldo (Brazil) doesn't get his dues for me, and besides perhaps Messi, is the best player ever in my opinion.
 
he has a higher potential than Zidane who was hardly as complete as Pogba now..

basically complete package of skills of all sorts, playmaking, finishing, flair, long shots, basically the best passing range in the game, athleticism and sheer power, he's basically going to be one of the most complete players you've ever seen, he's not far away to master some of his abilities and then he can overcome Zidane but hard to compare two players from different teams and ages, especially when Zidane at 23 was still in France..

this is only the beginning but last few games we have seen what he can do and one can say he's wonderful talent of the highest level. He will certainly compete for the balloon d'or for the rest of his career, once we kick on and start winning things and he will be seen on a bigger stage like Champions league
disagree. Pogba has more complete skillset than Ronaldinho but at this age (23), the things Ronaldinho could do with a football, even God couldn't do if he played the game. Being more well rounded, doesn't mean you have more potential.
 
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