Patrick Dorgu | Medical today? No. Weekend.

[2 man midfield]

Would rather went for the summer and just buyback Alvaro

I agree, unless Amorim has had a good look at him and isn’t keen. Mad we sold him in the first place

 

[UnsungHero]

The last thing we want to be doing is spending £30m+ on a young, raw talent, who is thrown into the Man Utd maelstrom of chaos, and will no doubt struggle...

 

[Jacob]

Uninspired choice

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

If we wanted to we probably would have already.

That was what I was getting at.

 

[Tosicsleftpeg]

Just use Malacia, this guy can chill at Lecce till summer. Use the 30m for a top player like Ait Nouri.

 

[hellhunter]

Just use Malacia, this guy can chill at Lecce till summer. Use the 30m for a top player like Ait Nouri.

I'd love Ait Nouri, but he'll cost closer to 50M.

 

[Offside]

Guarantee if it was Bournemouth bidding they’d accept £10m. Woodward’s incompetence still lingers.

 

[hellhunter]

Guarantee if it was Bournemouth bidding they’d accept £10m. Woodward’s incompetence still lingers.

They demanded the same amount before we were even interested

 

[Berbaclass]

Guarantee if it was Bournemouth bidding they’d accept £10m. Woodward’s incompetence still lingers.

Chelsea and Spurs were interested before us and were quoted the same fee.

 

[Offside]

They demanded the same amount before we were even interested

Let’s play hard done by please.

 

[hellhunter]

Let’s play hard done by please.

Works for me. feck them!

 

[golden_blunder]

I agree with you on the timeline but not necessarily the player. Whoever we get for this role is going to be heavily relied on out of the gate so I'd prefer someone who's a little less of a question mark

Who is less of a question mark but within our price range?

 

[Tiber]

Before I moan I will recognise that we have signed a huge number of well regarded players who went on to do feck all.

However ,it's a little discouraging that very few people who know him (never seen him kick a ball in my life) seem particularly excited about him. Especially as it's such a vital position we need to address.

Bold move to move for a 20 year old with 1 season of first team football

 

[golden_blunder]

Uninspired choice

Really? All stat tables supposedly nail him as a top young talent.

People were begging for United to sign him over Davies earlier in this thread. Where have they all gone?

 

[luke511]

Who is less of a question mark but within our price range?

Alvaro Carreras.

 

[golden_blunder]

Alvaro Carreras.

He’s no more further along the track than Dorgu. He’s better on the ball possibly but not as athletic and not as quick.

However, yes he’s cheaper. But I think we’d have done that deal already if we wanted him.

So, other suggestions?

 

[Berbaclass]

Alvaro Carreras.

INEOS sold him.

 

[Berbaclass]

I think he would unlock Amad even further in the 10 position.

 

[PSV]

Really? All stat tables supposedly nail him as a top young talent.

People were begging for United to sign him over Davies earlier in this thread. Where have they all gone?

What stat tables, the ones I've seen he is actually awful. Like really bad.

Scored a few goals which puts him high on that, but he's below average going forward and tragic defensively.

 

[sullydnl]

Alvaro Carreras.

We literally sold him a few months ago, which is a fair indication that he comes with quite a lot of question marks himself.

Not least of which is that for a team desperate to raise the level of physicality in the side, "technically accomplished but mediocre athlete" isn't exactly the ideal profile we want for wingback.

There's also the fact that by not signing him we stand to gain financially from a sell on fee in the future. Again, quite an important question mark to consider.

 

[Berbaclass]

We literally sold him a few months ago, which is a fair indication that he comes with quite a lot of question marks himself.

Not least of which is that for a team desperate to raise the level of physicality in the side, "technically accomplished but mediocre athlete" isn't exactly the ideal profile we want for wingback.

Exactly, the club already has a very good picture of him and his abilities/potential and chose to look elsewhere. Put 2+2 together...

 

[BuzzKillington]

He’s no more further along the track than Dorgu. He’s better on the ball possibly but not as athletic and not as quick.

However, yes he’s cheaper. But I think we’d have done that deal already if we wanted him.

So, other suggestions?

Kyle Walker-Peters for less than ten million. He’s available on a free in the summer and saints are going down regardless. There’s a very good chance that Dorgu ends up no better than him for a lot more money.

 

[Berbaclass]

Kyle Walker-Peters for less than ten million. He’s available on a free in the summer and saints are going down regardless. There’s a very good chance that Dorgu ends up no better than him for a lot more money.

If we spent money on him people would moan that we have Malacia and say we could have got him for nothing in the summer.

Dorgu is seemingly our top target. we should be going after the best players that we think are available. Walker-Peters would be another stop gap.

 

[golden_blunder]

Kyle Walker-Peters for less than ten million. He’s available on a free in the summer and saints are going down regardless. There’s a very good chance that Dorgu ends up no better than him for a lot more money.

He’s a defender not a wingback. You’re not getting the profile Amorim wants for his wingbacks

 

[AltiUn]

Alvaro Carreras.

Why’s everyone so obsessed with Alvaro, cause he’s cheap?

 

[golden_blunder]

Rather than than throwing random names, have a think about wingers, athletic, strong and pacey who can get up and down. That’s the profile they are looking for. They want to raise the athleticism and pace in the team.

 

[golden_blunder]

Why’s everyone so obsessed with Alvaro, cause he’s cheap?

Exactly it.

 

[luke511]

He’s no more further along the track than Dorgu. He’s better on the ball possibly but not as athletic and not as quick.

However, yes he’s cheaper. But I think we’d have done that deal already if we wanted him.

So, other suggestions?

I'd disagree. He has Champions League, Benfica and Championship experience, along with already been a part of this squad. He's a lot further along the track in terms of experience. He's better at taking players on than Dorgu, whilst registering a top speed of 33km so he's not even as slow as being made out. He's just a better, more compatible, footballer for half the price.

INEOS sold him.

Murtough loaned him out to Benfica with a buy clause in January, It wasn't INEOS.

 

[Berbaclass]

Murtough loaned him out to Benfica with a buy clause in January, It wasn't INEOS.

Which INEOS sanctioned seeing as they had sporting control.

 

[luke511]

Why’s everyone so obsessed with Alvaro, cause he’s cheap?

A much more technically gifted player with playmaking abilities, exactly what we need from wide positions.

 

[golden_blunder]

I'd disagree. He has Champions League, Benfica and Championship experience, along with already been a part of this squad. He's a lot further along the track in terms of experience. He's better at taking players on than Dorgu, whilst registering a top speed of 33km so he's not even as slow as being made out. He's just a better, more compatible, footballer for half the price.

Murtough loaned him out to Benfica with a buy clause in January, It wasn't INEOS.

He’s not a signing that raises the athletic bar. Hence why we haven’t already signed him.

 

[Berbaclass]

A much more technically gifted player with playmaking abilities, exactly what we need from wide positions.

If so why haven't they bought him? (assuming the buy back is even currently active)

 

[luke511]

Which INEOS sanctioned seeing as they had sporting control.

That was up to Murtough, why are you trying to pretend it was INEOS? Is Ratcliffe to blame then?

 

[hellhunter]

I'd disagree. He has Champions League, Benfica and Championship experience, along with already been a part of this squad. He's a lot further along the track in terms of experience. He's better at taking players on than Dorgu, whilst registering a top speed of 33km so he's not even as slow as being made out. He's just a better, more compatible, footballer for half the price.

Murtough loaned him out to Benfica with a buy clause in January, It wasn't INEOS.

Good post. But still, the fact we hear nothing in this direction makes me believe he's either not interested in a return, which would be fair enough, his clause isn't active yet or the Ineos guys still don't rate him

 

[luke511]

If so why haven't they bought him? (assuming the buy back is even currently active)

Because this club has a habit of making the wrong decision when it comes to hiring players maybe?

 

[golden_blunder]

A much more technically gifted player with playmaking abilities, exactly what we need from wide positions.

Let me put it a different way, we’re looking for dogs of war right now. He’s not that type.

 

[VP89]

I'd love Ait Nouri, but he'll cost closer to 50M.

Even if Wolves get relegated?

 

[hellhunter]

Even if Wolves get relegated?

Was thinking about a January transfer. No clue if they go down, but could see them holding out for that if they cash in on Cunha

 

[Berbaclass]

That was up to Murtough, why are you trying to pretend it was INEOS? Is Ratcliffe to blame then?

INEOS gained sporting control on Christmas Eve before he was sold. They made the final decision.

Murtough doesn't just do what he wants, he answers to them buddy.

 

[Berbaclass]

Because this club has a habit of making the wrong decision when it comes to hiring players maybe?

Under previous ownership and sporting control, sure. Things are different now and decisions are now made by different personnel.