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Patrice Evra | 2013/14 Performances
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He was God-like in that second half.
Benefitted for us not focusing our attacks down the right all the time.
Benefitted for us not focusing our attacks down the right all the time.
He got a nice rest. Shows he cant still be a valuable player if we had decent cover for him.
I still think he can be a big player for us for another season or two if we manage him properly.
Better at everything in the second half.
Very good performance. He's such a key player for us that we owe it to him to have a top class alternative. He can't perform at those levels consistently without getting rest once in a while.
Knee problem? Good timing for Coentrao now.
Was he definitely subbed because of injury then? He went straight down the tunnel after coming off which is never a good sign.
I reckon he'll play through it again. Was it him who played with a chicken breast in his boot with Monaco? Or was it someone else?
Yeah, Moyes said he's struggling with a knee injury.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jan/12/patrice-evra-leave-manchester-united-contract-ends
While we usually wait a while before offering a new contract to players in evra's position it really wouldn't surprise if we don't offer an extension, especially if we do manage to get coentrao in this window.
While we usually wait a while before offering a new contract to players in evra's position it really wouldn't surprise if we don't offer an extension, especially if we do manage to get coentrao in this window.
Looks like Moyes is starting to make some hard decisions and doing it the right way by talking to the players personally.
If we could persuade Evra to accept a reduced role, as with Giggs and Scholes, that would be better than shipping him out especially if we're getting rid of Vidic and Rio as well. Rio is obviously not the force he used to be but Evra and Vida showed on Saturday night that they still have a lot to offer. Plus, they're leaders and have more experience of the title run in than most. Evra would be more than competent competition for anyone we brought in, we'd have two solid left backs which is more than we do right now.
He should be allowed to retire at the club if at all possible. He's certainly still as useful as Giggs, and a leader in the squad. He can back up whoever we bring in.
It would be fantastic to keep Evra around after we have signed his replacement if he is willing to be a backup and ascend to the role of squad mentor. Whether that would have the same appeal as moving back to Monaco where he would get more football is another matter.
We should give him the PR responsibilities.
Or at the very least - draft him in to give interviews before games against Arsenal.
If he does go come May, he should recieve a great send-off... he's been a fantastic servant for us.
Oh and he was incredible in the 2nd half on Saturday... as people have said, it harkened back to the lofty days of 2008/09.
Would be sad to see Patrice go but I guess his days at the club are coming to an end.
That would be an ideal scenario, simply because after the last summer transfer window I worry about our ability to do business. If we do let Evra leave and then run into problems signing a first choice left back we are pretty screwed. I'd rather offer him an extension just as a precaution.
Maybe we want to keep him? But Evra wants a nice final payday at PSG or Monaco. Can't really blame him.
Not just about pay either, about returning to the country of his birth and extending his playing career by a few years. Nobody could blame him if that was his priority if he is no longer likely to be getting much first team football with us. But it would be nice for him to have the option, obviously he will have seen how older players can have an important role in the squad and he does seem to have a genuine love for the club.
I would rather him retire with us and by 2016 have a testimonial, but alas it doesn't always work that way. I can see he can still contribute, but it is clear he can't play 40 games a season anymore, who's to say the likes of Monaco and PSG will play a 33/34 year old week in week out like we do?
Came across this RoM blog on my twitter feed yesterday. Can't help but feel Evra is under appreciated amongst a lot of our fans.
I wouldn't say he is under appreciated by the fans. He has been amazing during his time at United, I don't think you will find one person who can argue that but it's just today, he isn't the consistent player that he was. I don't think anyone will forget what he has done for the club but I believe the time has come where it's time for both parties to freshen things up
Pretty much this. However, I do think he can still play at a very high level if he is awarded a little bit of rest now and then. He is still pacy, has great technique and links-up very well. I also think his ability to drive the team forwards is a little under appreciated. He has been below his standards this season though, but I do think that given more rest, he can provide more of those 2nd half performances against Swansea.
I think it's more a case that people's affection for footballers wears off quickly (see Valencia). His poorer seasons obviously stick in the mind for some, but I think he's been the best left back of the last decade or so, and therefore a club legend and modern day great.
If we sign Baines, then the step down from Evra at his best will have been massive. Not that there are too many other options but it'd be another large downgrade in a key area from our last great team.
I agree. His days of starting 50 odd games a season are over but as a squad player he still has a lot to offer. I hope we can convince him to stay with us as more of a back up.
I think we're nearly getting to the point where he'll have had as many underperformed seasons at the club than good ones, it's no wonder he'll be unappreciated for how good he was at his peak. Hope his time is up in the summer.
I wouldn't go that far but I really do hope he goes in the summer as for me there's' nothing more frustrating than watching a great player on their last legs i.e Neville.
I was under the impression Evra had always said he wanted to finish back at Monaco. Hope he ends his time here whilst he's still appreciated.
If he does leave at the end of the season, I just hope he has a cracking last few months with us. People comparing him leaving to Monaco and Rooney leaving is bizarre and disgraceful to a player like Evra. I have nothing against players leaving, but there are ways to do things, and I think Evra truly has been, and still is, one of our greatest ambassadors; he's witty, clearly intelligent and offers more insight and variety than the automatons that tend to speak in front of the camera.
I love Evra.
Great performance today. The attacking side of his play this season has been very good.
Great performance today. The attacking side of his play this season has been very good.
He's defensively better in games where he restricts his attacking forays and doesn't get in front of the play too much. Then again, he showed today how important he is to us attack-wise, especially with his pace and ability to get to the byline which Januzaj and Mata don't naturally have. It's a shame it's not 2010 otherwise we could have both sides to him.
It was a massive help today because we always had Januzaj providing the width on the left so Evra had less responsibility to do so than normal. Basically resulted in him being in position more often than not and of course, massive contribution from him going forward as per.
And also when he has a proper rest, his game is very demanding physically and to do it 3 times in the space of a week can be too much.
Get him a proper back up/competition and he can still do a very good job at left back. He just needs to be well conditioned physically and mentally right (not being lazy). The quality is still there, albeit not at his '07-10 form.
Is it me who thinks he hasn't had that bad a season at all?
I would agree that Evra plays a better defensive game when he is not venturing forward on nearly every attack, as common sense would dictate. However, I feel that he gets exposed too often against pacing and tricky wingers, which is why we have struggled against teams up in the top 4 or 5 in the table. If he comes up across a great winger in the CL I feel as if he'd be cooked as well.
He certainly hasn't had a 'bad' season, but it certainly isn't one to remember. We've unfairly held him to his 07-10 form which seems to bring some harsh criticisms in recent times when he hasn't lived up to those expectation. But we mustn't forget, people age and maintaining such excellent form that he maintained for those 3 years isn't something that is easy to uphold.
I feel as if we won't truly appreciate what he had in Patrice Evra until he is gone.
He certainly hasn't had a 'bad' season, but it certainly isn't one to remember. We've unfairly held him to his 07-10 form which seems to bring some harsh criticisms in recent times when he hasn't lived up to those expectation. But we mustn't forget, people age and maintaining such excellent form that he maintained for those 3 years isn't something that is easy to uphold.
I feel as if we won't truly appreciate what he had in Patrice Evra until he is gone.
If Evra gives us one more season and we get someone like Coentrao and split the games between them, i think it will be ideal. He's still a fantastic athlete even at his age
I feel as if Evra is still of use to us, albeit not as a main starting left back. He doesn't have the stamina to play regularly, anymore, and will have to be managed like Ferdinand is to ensure that he can still contribute to this team. As shown against Crystal Palace, when he gets some good rest and isn't required to do as much as he used to do, he can still be a useful player, for us.
He'll have to be managed like Ferdinand is for him to be useful, here. Other than being vulnerable against quick wingers and poor at blocking crosses, he's still good, going forward, and takes good defensive positions when not required to push forward. In 1-on-1 situations, he'll still need some support either from his left-wing partner or from a central midfielder as his man-marking has definitely worsened against quicker players.
He'll have to be managed like Ferdinand is for him to be useful, here. Other than being vulnerable against quick wingers and poor at blocking crosses, he's still good, going forward, and takes good defensive positions when not required to push forward. In 1-on-1 situations, he'll still need some support either from his left-wing partner or from a central midfielder as his man-marking has definitely worsened against quicker players.
Needs a rest like no other.. He's again played too much football and it has started to show on his performances, specially going forward.. This should had been corrected in January but somehow decided to continue to put more and more on his shoulders. OK the previous management did this as well but at least then they had the way of winning most games and then there was a rest period for Paddy somewhere in the schedule..
There was an article in the Mail saying that whatever else happens, we should try and keep Paddy. I was all for him leaving as part of the general clear out of older players, but I'm starting to think that if he can be convinced to stay even with us signing a replacement this summer, he has to be kept on. Moyes is shredding the squad's character, and we need to retain some semblance of stability.
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