This has escalated quickly.
Paris terror attacks on Friday 13th
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Yeah I spent a year in Brussels on placement while I was at college. Originally looked at renting a place in Molenbeek but pretty much everyone at work, including a couple of muslim colleagues, told me it was a bad idea.
If this is the case, Muslims are claiming that these people are not acting on their behalf or in their name. according to the Koran it is a sin to kill another human being and thus against the religion, so what is it, which cause are they supposed to be following - their own invented cause or is the Muslim religion just one complete lie. So much hypocrisy.
But why were they so passive during the British empire? You mentioned Barbary Arabs but that doesn't explain how an "infidel" nation controlled close to 700million Muslim's without any religious edicts directed at them.
the law is not headgear , but covering of ones face. i think it was more gender equity as religious freedom. you can wear a helmet and other protective facial apparatus. and of gender equity women can drive , vote and hold property in france and have freedom of speech. law made to accommodate all.
Is this a response to Friday? I'd have thought that would have been a target already?
There is a photo from inside the Bataclan which I won't post and it makes you think how bad that would've been in there. Truly harrowing. Can't imagine what the people inside went through.
Already posted.
Wouldn't want to be in Raqqa today (or any other time). They are getting pounded.
I've only seen the video just before in the thread, but the photo is afterwards and shows some of the victims.
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Yeah that's it, missed it in here but the one i saw had no pixelation. Grim
Yeah it's awful
Ironically, the impression in most Islamic state is that the west are purposefully increasing terrorism in these states.
I wasnät aware of that - thought it was a ban on head scarves.
Well, Islam and Christianity are horses of a different colour. The New Testament is pacifistic, and the teachings of Christ had to be radically 'interpreted' by the early Church fathers to permit even the concept of a 'just war'.
Islam is, in a sense, a child of war. The Prophet Muhammad was a military leader, and the early expansion of the religion was on horseback wielding a sword. 'Turn the other cheek' or 'The meek shall inherit the earth' are alien to Islam.
The idea, popular among secular, liberal Western apologists, that Christianity and Islam, both being religions
, are spiritual cousins, and can be expected to evolve along similar lines in the West, is, I think, mistaken. They start from very different places.As reading the Quran, and comparing it with the New Testament, clearly shows.
No, I left Paris 1 year ago, but I still have lots of friends and family there and the Bataclan was my favourite concert hall.
The feeling there is a mix of horror, disgust, sorrow, sometimes anger and the will to find the best collective answer to face this situation. Pretty similar to other parts in the world but with some added intensity, concern and scare due to the closeness of the attacks.
Here come the conspiracy theories....
Western countries are killing their own just to have an excuse to invade muslim countries because all the western nations want to root out islam, right?
You've got to laugh at this point...
So did I. Though I didn't hear anything particularly bad about it, just seemed a pretty dead area. I was warned away from Schaerbeek around Gare du Nord though - because of the red light district and high drug abuse.
I ended up living in a part of Laeken where the community was a vast majority of Morrocans and Turks. Had no problems, and the food/kebabs/haircuts were super cheap and pretty awesome.
Is that something to feel sorry for? If I was guaranfeckingteed 10 billion dollars for killing people, I still wouldn't do it.
Here come the conspiracy theories....
Western countries are killing their own just to have an excuse to invade muslim countries because all the western nations want to root out islam, right?
You've got to laugh at this point...
I don't think he was going to argue that at all. Just that many people in the Middle East will be pissed off at some of the negative stuff our conflicts in Iraq/Afghanistan brought.
Although that doesn't excuse the actions of ISIS, obviously, who are just fecking sickening, and kill absolutely anyone, whether it to be people from the west, their own people, or anyone who doesn't agree with their warped, hypocritical views.
Feck, must be all the more terrible for you. Hope all your family and friends are safe and doing okay.
Yep. All Iraqis and Afghans loved Saddam Hussein and the Taliban. But you only truly appreciate the good things of life when they're gone.
I ended up by Place Meiser which was technically Schaerbeek and I loved it. All the lads who work on the trains and buses live out there so they never checked tickets on those routes. I learned after a month I could stop paying for my monthly abonnement and still get the money off work!
Big Turkish and North African population there and I never had any hassle either. Most dangerous part was living by a junction which has 14 lanes of traffic, a roundabout stuck on the side of it and two tram lines running through the middle! Walking home after a few beers was dicey at best!
Just went on Facebook and read some of my 'friends' from college post. Who are the atheists praying for when they write #prayforparis.
I see it a lot on my FB as well. They're not religious, they just follow the rest by going along with it and change their profile picture with the French flag etc.
What a brainless pathetic society we live in. . People updating their pics to fit in with the crowd despite their words saying completely the opposite. Ffs.
It is just a pithy phrase and sentiment. 'Thoughts to Paris'. It doesn't mean they are on their knees praying to a supernatural being. Don't take everything so literally. That's what they do in ISIS you know.
It's just a turn of phrase, one that half the world was tagging their posts with. Being an atheist doesn't mean you have to go out of your way to be awkward.
To be fair, you can be without religion without being specifically atheist. I don't follow a religion but I don't presume to know with 100% certainty that there isn't and has never been a god. I don't post shite on facebook but I've spent plenty of time over the last few days quietly contemplating the events in Paris and wishing people who are suffering all the best.
All seems a bit convenient to me. If it was a legitimate target how come it hadn't been done before? I mean, surely if they know where they are they'd be wiping them out already?
I think everyone feels powerless. An acquaintance lost a friend at the concert and a close friend was caught in a panic crowd movement following a false alarm today. The terror part is really more concrete than at the time of the Charlie Hebdo killings.
No I think you missed the point. They were being sarcastic? It was Muslims taking the mick..
Just out of interest, what was the French involvement/stance on terrorism and ISIS/AQ before these attacks?
A part of me feels angry that more countries don't seem to want to get involved in these things until they become the victims also. I'm not one to follow politics and that, so I could be wide of the mark with that comment in relation to France. But I was always under the impression that it is primarily USA & GB that step forward to do something. Is that a fair comment? Which nations are as involved?
A part of me feels angry that more countries don't seem to want to get involved in these things until they become the victims also. I'm not one to follow politics and that, so I could be wide of the mark with that comment in relation to France. But I was always under the impression that it is primarily USA & GB that step forward to do something. Is that a fair comment? Which nations are as involved?
Awful headline on the front page of the Guardian - 'Killed in the pitiless name of terrorism'.
Has anyone ever come across a single utterance of the word 'terrorism' by the Islamic State in reference to its actions? We in the West are now applying our own terms to IS's cause in order to cover up the uncomfortable truth that they are committing their acts of violence in the name of their religion.
Has anyone ever come across a single utterance of the word 'terrorism' by the Islamic State in reference to its actions? We in the West are now applying our own terms to IS's cause in order to cover up the uncomfortable truth that they are committing their acts of violence in the name of their religion.
This is part of the problem for me. The world has become too politically correct. Even when we're being shot and blown up, we still pussy foot around the issues.
The Guardian's suggestion that the attacks were committed 'in the name of terrorism' paints a simplistic picture of comic book bad guys who are killing for the sake of killing. They and the rest of the media have no interest in delving into anything deeper unless it involves somehow blaming the West.
They were bombing Syria already, started a few months back if memory serves. UK is currently only involved in Iraq air strikes.