Well it's not helped by the Police who seemed to be shouting at everyone to run. But yeah, everyone looked in a bit of a panic. Exactly what the terrorists want i'm afraid
Paris terror attacks on Friday 13th
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Well it's not helped by the Police who seemed to be shouting at everyone to run. But yeah, everyone looked in a bit of a panic. Exactly what the terrorists want i'm afraid
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Video of scare.
Someone let off firecrackers? FFS
Kay the Dog Lover said she heard a shot. Can't hear anything like that from the video though, just a woman's scream...?
Supposedly the Egyptian passport found at Stade de France wasn't of a terrorist but of a security guard / someone at the game, and he's in critical condition.
LOl - FFS that is funny
Or they came with the refugees with the fake passports
Why? Those people are french. Why is it a good idea for a government to impose (meaningless) restrictions on its own people? What will banning the headscarf achieve?
In France they get machine guns illegally but people can't buy guns for protection.
Jesus, thats feckin awful. Shows hw scared people are.
Why would they have the passports on them when they were doing this other than to make people think that way?
The passports were made in Europe too, how did they get there in the first place. Why get a fake Syrian one? Why would it make any sense in any sense other than to generate the terror you're demonstrating?
The state and religion are two separate things - as someone pointed out you couldn't wear a nuns outfit either - if you ride a motorcycle you cannot wear the helmet, petty laws but sorry to upset a few people.
In certain countries in North Africa and the middle east, women are forced to have a certain dress code but that's ok is it whether they are from that country or not
In any event this has nothing to do with the events in Paris , it is sub-human barbarians hiding behind religion to satisfy their bloodlust which has happened by people from all different "religions" throughout the centuries
I do not agree with those restrictions as well which is why I have to be consistent. Besides, I am not against/for the banning of head scarfs and whatnot but is it really beneficial considering a sizable population would want to wear it? I just can't see any positive coming from it at all.
It may not have a direct relationship with Paris but let's fact it: these attacks will increase anti-Islamic sentiments throughout Europe and the rest of the world and in that sense discussing restrictions/laws on Muslims is kind of important.
The municipality of Molenbeek is really coming into focus. Is it really that Bad?
Yes they're will be more anti-Islamic feeling in Europe because these terrorists are claiming they are representing Islam. No other reason - so why doesn't the true islamic world put a stop to the terrorists themselves . France changing their headscarf laws will change nothing.
The true Islamic world putting a stop to it is unrelated to headscarves, but how do you suggest they do that? As for head scarves, if I were the leader of a nation and saw a section of my population being alienated from the rest I would try and make laws to accommodate them (laws that would have no other negative impact)
In the right or wrong circumstances most people can descend to sub-human barbarism. Imo it's wrong to ascribe such events to pathological blood-lust. These people killed for a cause, not to satisfy their homicidal cravings.
Which isn't to say they were nice people to begin with. But in a different social context their inner darkness would never have seen the light.
That's BS. Half of these people are criminals/outcasts of their society. There is no "cause" here but a pseudo cause to hide behind their blood lust.
There are hundreds of thousands of people working towards the IS cause - women and children are flocking there to be a part of the project from all sections of society. How ignorant must you be to believe that the IS phenomenon is merely about a few violent men acting to satisfy their sadism. Open your fecking eyes...there is a very clear cause and it is a religious one.
you think the children going there have any say in the matter?
It depends on which ones we are talking about. In the UK there have been a number of teenagers having traveled there independently of their families. Obviously very young children who are taken by their families have no choice, just as they have no choice about their religious identity.
This isn't just about young men looking for action...it's about a deluded mass of people who are hoping to play their part in the caliphate, about which they have been told in the madrasas and the mosques since childhood.
Confirmed death toll now at 132.
Unfortunately you have no idea what you are talking about if you truly believe that. There is no shortage of blood lusting outcasts in the world. Tell them "We are fighting the infidels. You will be paid for it" and they will find a good enough excuse to kill.
Just out of curiosity, have you ever been to a Madrasa? If so where was it?
And from where does the concept of the infidel being worthy of death derive?
Why the extreme rhetoric and actions now though (past 70 years)?
How far back does it go? And how did the British end up controlling an empire which contained more Muslims than any other entity in human history? Surely those Muslim's would have slaughtered the Brit's right?
Had two muslim friends and it was same - they joked about my religion all the time which never bothered me and if it was funny I always joined the laugh, when I or other of my friends said anything about Islam they went crazy how we dear.
Once one of them pulled out the knife when one of my friend said something about Islam and after that we never hangout again.
But I always gave benefit of the doubt that all the muslim are not the same since this two were hardcore Albanians who are not known as the most kind people.
Kind of a grim thread for my first post in the mains but as a Frenchman it is appropriate.
RIP and stay strong.
RIP and stay strong.
FAO anyone from Paris.
How is the feeling there today?
How is the feeling there today?
Welcome up. Were you in Paris at the time?
Really good article from the former head of MI6 - http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/201f9a32-8b72-11e5-8be4-3506bf20cc2b.html?ftcamp=published_links/rss/comment/feed//product#axzz3rarRHps5
Part that concerns me most and will no doubt occur:
No surprise they primarily target France given that goal. Seems to be working as well.
I don't think that extreme religious rhetoric and violence is exclusive to the modern day Islamic world...it's just that it's relatively more pronounced in today's world. But it has always been there... since day one religious violence in the name of the Quran has been a problem. If you want an early example of Islam antagonising the West, even isolationist Thomas Jefferson was compelled to start a war to crush the Islamic Barbary States of North Africa due to the fact that they permitted mujahidin to carry out maritime atrocities on Americans and Europeans. These states claimed such violence was mandated by the Quran and as a result they could have no objection to the murder and rape that was being carried out on 'infidels' by the Muslim pirates. Jefferson wrote of his inability to reason with Barbary diplomats on account of their fundamental faith in the Quran and the right to violence it sets out.
It terrible to see how much this affected the people.
Also did anybody noticed the guy who just stand there didn't moved for a inch and just watched people running.
French air strikes on IS in progress.
Edit: 20 munitions dropped on Raqqa, targeting Jihadi recruitment centre apparently.
Edit: 20 munitions dropped on Raqqa, targeting Jihadi recruitment centre apparently.
That was a great read. Appreciated.
As per my point all long, you cannot make laws to satisfy everybody, there is a reason for that law to be passed, not just to annoy certain sections of the society.
if headscarves are alienating one section of society from the rest of the country and leads them to turn to reprisals to the state the people or worse into terrorism, for pity's sake .
About time we finished with this namby-pamby attitude.
The islamic world should try to put a stop to the terrorism but the impression in the west is more that they encourage it whether this is true or not is another matter, the west are trying to stop the terrorism.