Once he comes back, he will be just a few matches from being injured again. Thanks but no thanks. Sell him. Get what we can.
Owen Hargreaves | 2009/10 Performances
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Loving the faith of people on here.
Nope.. Unless I am not mistaken he will not be permitted in the B squad as he has not spent 2 uninterrupted years with us..
If memory serves most posters on here didn't rate Hargreaves until after the 2006 WC, and many were enamored with the possibility of Senna joining. I don't know why SAF didn't try to sign Hargreaves in 2005 when his contract was down to a year and could have been signed for a reduced fee or a pre-contract on a free. It seems the club's inability to sign the likes of Essien, Diarra, et al, pushed SAF into a "panic" signing of Hargreaves. Granted he's a tidy player to have but Fletcher's emergence has surely pushed him out of the starting XI.
Even without his injuries, Hargreaves did not justify the price tag. One of SAF's bad decisions.
Yup. There were better, cheaper, and less injury-prone player's on the market but Fergie seemed to have been put under a spell by Hargreaves QF performance.
Like another poster said, wasn't Hargreaves considered shite by most on here and most in this country, before he had a decent World Cup?
Seems absence makes the heart grow fonder when it comes to Hargreaves. Good player but I'd take Fletcher to start over him any day.
He was the English media's whipping boy of choice for a while. I remember him getting dog's abuse over some very poor performances in the qualifying campaign.
The media and the fans. He was a lot like Phil Neville in the England squad and then one match turned it around and he was ultra super mega hyped after the tournament.
SAF discusses Hargreaves in today's press conference.
Wasn't he good for Bayern? SAF doesn't let media tell him who to buy
Beckenbauer must have a little chuckle to himself when thinking about this transfer.
Sir Alex looked uncomfortable in that interview. Adding De Laet to the squad instead of Hargreaves is hardly essential for the Milan game.
He didn´t impress me much when played in the middle but surprisingly when played at right-back or right-midfield I thought he was really, really good. Also got a very handy right-foot when it came to set-pieces. All in all if it hadn´t been for the injuries I think he´d been a good buy
Hargreaves fans are making too much of a few good games on the right. Ronaldo was rested, which meant the games were either meaningless (except the final) or the opposition were of inferior quality.
His crossing and dead ball technique is top class.
SAF was trying to create excuses for his exclusion. To most observers it's a simple case of Hargreaves not being ready.
Fair enough but I think that hadn´t Ronaldo been with us Hargreaves would have been played alot more on the right and I think he´d do a good job against anyone just as in the final. I could be wrong though
Fair enough but I think that hadn´t Ronaldo been with us Hargreaves would have been played alot more on the right and I think he´d do a good job against anyone just as in the final. I could be wrong though
He's not a winger, or a right back. We have better in those positions.
In the final he played right of a midfield three to counter Chelsea's very strong midfield. We only play that system in Europe and against a few teams in the premiership. The brilliant form of Fletcher has made that particular role redundant for Hargreaves.
Hargie is going to recover and contribute to our treble season. mark my word!
This part is true and then he was all the rave after WC 2006 which shows how crap England performed overall. I felt it was a bit OTT as Beckham was clearly the most impact performer, at least attacking wise. Didn't all goals scored pretty much go through him? Or maybe that was just the group stage.
This could apply to many players at any club. Kleberson might have settled in nicely had he not been crocked so constantly. Imagine Saha playing a full season.
Thing is, he was a wrack at Bayern too
Wow. SAF pretty much confirmed (in other words) that he's got an icicle's chance in hell of playing at all this season.
Irronically This thread is Knee-jerk about someone who has fecked knees possibly down to them being jerked.
We were basically using him as a bigger, faster, more dangerous-out-wide version of Park. That's why we ended up leaving Park out of the 17 man squad for the final that season, as Hargreaves could basically do everything he could do but better (except only on the right).
Whether that purpose is still useful is debatable, seeing as we no longer have Ronaldo unbalancing us, plus our two best wingers both seem more comfortable on the right already.
He didn't say, "There's no doubt about that" or "Oh, there's absolutely no question about that, in my mind" once during that interview. In Fergie-speak, this absence translates to, "OMG SHIT SHIT SHIT WHAT THE FECK IS GOING ON???"
On that note, he looked strange in the interview before the Arsenal game too. Is he mellowing?
I think this dogma that Hargreaves can't play central is a silly as the dogma that O'Shea can't play central (midfield or defence.). He won a Champion's League in that position for Bayern. People seem just to worry about central midfield competition, which Hargreaves is.
Only on the right? We moved Ronaldo off the left in the final, meaning Hargreaves also played on the left.
I highly doubt we will need Richie De Laet for the Milan game. I think SAF is lying through his teeth.
What's his salary like?
We probably won't, but heck - who knows. When we went to Wolfsburg in December, a player like Richie could have helped. Yes, I know we ended up winning the match, but it could have been nice, you know, having TWO real defenders on the pitch. Keeping him out in hope that we'll get to the QF, SF and final and that Hargreaves might be ready for one of those, is silly.
People judge what they see. And Hargreaves wasn't that good in the middle for us.
He was one of the key players responsible for Untied winning the CL in 2008..plus the Arsenal goal
Edwin was key, Vidic was key, Rio was key, Ronaldo was key, Rooney was key. Hargreaves did a job, like several other players.
Evra was shit his first season. Hargreaves was not only brand new to the league, he was coming off a season long injury. He wasn't fit, he lacked confidence, due to the injury layoff as well as the expectations surrounding him and was constantly in and out of the line up due to complications from his broken leg. He also wasn't shit in the middle. He had some "ok" performances, some outstanding ones, and some average ones.
Everyone gets a rubbery one for his performances at the end of the season on the right which correspond with having a decent run in the team, finding his form, getting used to the English game and gaining confidence. He would have played well virtually anywhere.
A healthy (as much as he can be) pre-op Hargreaves on form is our best CM. Post op, we will have to see. I made a post back after we won the CL final in a thread where the usual Hargreaves bashers, Ekeke, Sam, Brwned and company were bashing him. In that post I made the statement that the guy should be given some credit as he played an entire season with destroyed knees and it could cost him his career he at the very least deserves their respect for that. I believe it was Ekeke that laughed at the suggestion. We could look it up!
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I don't understand that statement.
Carrick and Scholes were much better than Hargreaves in 2007/2008, and Anderson was also more impressive.
Obviously now, Fletcher's surpassed Hargreaves as well (by some distance).
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