Competitive seems broken to me, especially if you're playing solo. They ignored all the problems pointed out during testing so it's no surprise it's ended up like this.
Gaming Overwatch
- Thread starter Alock1
- Start date
How can people be so stupid? I get matched with the biggest ******* in the world. No sense whatsoever.
Tell me about it. I'm by no means a great player but I have common sense, at least!
People who abandon objectives to run to get a health pack while I'm healing them with Mercy make me want to fire my controller at the screen.
What gets me is character selection. Why the feck would we need a Bastion and two Torlbjorns (think thats the spelling) on defense? I hate being paired with idiots.
You on console? If so, Torbjorn is kind of broken and the easiest character to play. He's got the highest winrate (70%, about 10-15% higher than every other hero except Symmetra) and the highest K/D ratio by a distance (3.50/1).
People like auto-tracking turrets.
Yeah, Xbox.
The problem with this particular team was the fact that we had no healer, no offense character and were a man down. I consider myself a pretty good "slayer" but chose to tank as we looked as if we needed one yet no one on my team was willing to compromise. Fools.
They're nerfing Trobjorn on consoles soon; the turret's damage will reduce drastically. Should completely change things. But until then, he's become even stronger after the nerf to Widow.
I find D Va pretty effective at dealing with turrets. Just boost towards them your Defense Matrix up and then demolish them at close range.
Also been playing Competitive Mode a fair bit and I think people are more willing to compromise and choose characters that help the team win over their preferred ones. I noticed a lot more people choosing support and far fewer Hanzos and Widowmakers being picked which was nice.
Also been playing Competitive Mode a fair bit and I think people are more willing to compromise and choose characters that help the team win over their preferred ones. I noticed a lot more people choosing support and far fewer Hanzos and Widowmakers being picked which was nice.
Oh yeah, there are far more people willing to compromise, however, there are still more than enough people around to ruin competitive due to not understanding the requirements.
Yeah I'd agree with that. Luckily I'm usually in a party of four at the minimum so we don't suffer too much.
Finished my placements and i'm sitting at skill rank 60. Think I'll wait for blizzard to fix the problems with competitive before continuing.
God, it's addictive but it's also very annoying. It's really difficult to justify going support sometimes. No worse sight than a Roadhog right in front of you. Insta-death. It's way too easy for his chain again to get people, it doesn't even have to be spot on them to get them. Then there's the likes of Hanzo and BW with their one shots, too. I also find Junkraat really annoying, pretty much anyone can play him and just pound his rockets everywhere to kill people. And Bastian is still too overpowered!
So yeah, it's great, but still needs a lot of work.
So yeah, it's great, but still needs a lot of work.
Do you like any characters?
I agree, to some extent. You just have to change your style, though, to counter the opposite team. If there's a Hanzo, I'll go Genji. If there's a Roadhog, I'll pick Zenyatta, and people are too stupid to realise Genji can deflect Bastions turret. I wouldn't want every character nerfed though, it would ruin the game. Althoug, with Blizzard, you know nerfs are around the corner.
Game is fecking addictive though. I'm on as soon as I'm back from work!
I like plenty of characters. I think I named like .. four out of 20 there?
Favourites are probably Genji, Reaper, Mei, Tracer, D.Va, Zanyatta.
As a support you wouldn't want to be anywhere near a Roadhog, Hanzo you just close down with any gap closer since he has no way to escape. Winston, Genji, D Va, even Junkrat. Widow also wrecks Hanzo. Bastion isn't overpowered at all, you're on PC aren't you? Bastion is a joke on PC barely anyone picks him anymore he's so easy to deal with. If he's sat in his turret form you can wreck him with Zenyata discord orb and charged attack, Zarya, D.VA, Winston, Widowmaker, Junkrat, Mei, Hanzo, Tracer, Soldier, Genji, Phara and Reaper. Just pick Genzi and run at him with your deflect up and he will kill himself. On console it's a bit different, one of the reasons they're nerfing Tjorborn on console since nobody can aim there apparently.
We played a game with 5 Reinhardt's and a Lucio yesterday, we took both points immediately on Hanamura it was hilarious.
Last edited:
I personally don't find Tjorborn over powered or difficult to take out at all (on console). Classic whinging from everyone will result in every character being nerfed.
Massive problems with people just leaving in competitive play right now im finding. Half of my last 20 games have resulted in someone getting salty and Disconnecting rather than try to overturn a deficit.
Becomes a very frustrating game on consoles when there's multiple turrets to deal with.
I guess it depends on whether you play solo or not. If I with a team, we'll focus to take out turrets (by utilising characters that specialise in it).
Of course. Problem is the vast majority play solo and they don't have a separate solo que.
I feel your pain (or whoever else struggles with this issue). It then comes down to the competence of your team mates - which is normally nonexistent when I'm playing solo, which is a far bigger problem than the characters themselves. There are enough ways to counter every character, but most players don't seem to be able to comprehend this. As with the Torbjorn, it's up to those playing as Soldier, Pharah, Genji etc. to counter the turrets, but they can't seem to figure this out.
As Zarlak mentioned you want to be away from Roadhog as a support. He'll insta kill Zenyatta and Mercy.
The only reason to be anywhere near one is when you're playing lucio and weaving around the payload (or contesting) switching between heal/speed.
If you do get hooked you'll have a higher chance to live if you boop/soundwave (knock back) when you end up in front of him and switch to speed boost to disengage and go back to heal when you're further away. Don't forget you can amp it up to disengage from roadhog and switch between songs while amping it up is active. Not enough people use Lucio's speed boost as a disengage, it's amazing for backing your team away from junkrat's rip-tire and Mei's blizzard.
I really can't wait for that fecking dwarf to be nerfed into oblivion. I mean, who thought it was a balanced to give a turret...
- Auto tracking.
- 360 degree auto lock on.
- Rapid fire with no reload.
- Sniper levels of range with no drop off in damage over distance.
- Can be repaired and upgraded.
- No cooldown after it's destroyed.
- Auto tracking.
- 360 degree auto lock on.
- Rapid fire with no reload.
- Sniper levels of range with no drop off in damage over distance.
- Can be repaired and upgraded.
- No cooldown after it's destroyed.
New hero presented. No idea when she'll be introduced but still. A new sniper.
I played 5 games last night: First 3 games I played healer as nobody else would, had enough of healing for the 2 other games so I played the only tank instead, and we lose both because nobody picked a healer ... Does it get better at higher levels/competitive? Because I'm getting pretty tired of this. I'm just doing quick play at level 19 at the moment so I'm hoping it's just me playing with other lowbies that's causing this attitude.
Team composition does get better in competitive. You'll still feel like your team is full of idiots a lot of the time though.
Yea even in competitives you've got plenty of cnuts who'll go afk after first round isn't won 3-0 in payload or who'll keep on picking those fecking Soldiers/Reapers/Pharahs on defence when you don't have a Tonbjörn, Bastion, Tank or whoever the feck is more useful in defending because kills.
Best bet is to get a group of lads and play with them so you reduce the chance of stumbling upon idiots.
Best bet is to get a group of lads and play with them so you reduce the chance of stumbling upon idiots.
I've put this aside for a while as I have guests at home and they're taking the gaming room so I'll still be at a too low level to play competitive mode (22 now). When I played I usually took the character which worked the best for the team and matched up well with the opposing team.
Played her a bit on the Public Test Realm, she's a lot of fun and some amazing utility. Her ultimate is incredible on the right hero.
Nothing wrong with having a Soldiers/Reapers/Pharah on defense. Most of the pros do because they offer more reliable damage than the defenders. It's situational though. If the enemy team has a very 'beefy' team composition [double winston, roadhog, zarya] you really want a reaper. Likewise, if they have a Pharah destroying everyone a soldier76 is a good choice.
Soldier is like the most commonly picked hero in the pro scene at the moment. There's one on literally every team.
Its... a pain. it suffers the exact same issues with regards to community as pretty much every competitive online game does. IE, everyone thinks they're better than everyone else, and refuses to compromise to win the game. I got dropped in at rank 51 for competitive, and after 20 or so games i tanked down to 43, now I wont pretend i played perfectly and nothings my fault, but more than half those games were lost by idiots refusing to pick heroes properly and refusing to take on board any suggestions.
So for example, an easy common meta strategy for payload (and a lot of game types actually) is a 2 tank 2 healer approach often involving a mercy/lucio/reinhart/roadhog or zarya as the core. and without some combination of this the games are virtually an instant loss on certain maps, and there's always 3 or 4 people randomly picking tracer/widowmaker etc.
Essentially unless your playing with 5 mates who are willing to learn and get better/take constructive criticism, your going to have a lot of really shitty games.
Another point which tends to be my main issue with the game right now, is that regardless of quick play or competitive, the games feel won and loss completely by Momentum, i rarely have back and forth balanced games, Im either stomping or being stomped, and it normally results from the first objective being taken quickly by a team, and the other team getting demotivated and losing focus then proceeding to be absolutely rekt the rest of the game.
Competitive is completely broken. Matchmaking is awful, and so are the teammates my friends and I are partnered with.
Looks good, which in gaming terms means she get a nerf soon enough.
Why must every team I'm on be infested with at least two Hanzos? Attack, defend, payload, there's always at least two gobshites thinking they're cool with a bow and arrow.
Yep. You could be the best Hanzo player in the world and I'll still hate you for picking him.
Made it to skill rank 65 today (solo queue). Looking forward to that 300 competitive point bonus!
I'm constantly floating around 55-60, solo queue as well, tired of calling people cnuts.
Genji is ruining the game, on console at least. Every team, attack or defence, seem to be running at least two each.
I still have not got myself to level 25 so cannot play competitive mode. That sucks, I've sunk 16 hours into this and absolutely loving it but can't get there yet.
Communication is key to getting over the 55-60 hump. I'd guess over 60% of my games in the rank 62-65 bracket use voice coms effectively to call out flankers, guess when enemy's have ult charged and telling people to wait, not trickle in one at a time and regroup and move as a unit. I can be frustrating but the climb is possible. A friend of mine went from 44 to 67!
Some of the pros (surefour/seagull) have said Genji is an ult bot. On PC most team comps are running Lucio & Zenyatta and whenever they hear and enemy genji use his ultimate they will pop their to negate him. Get your zenyatta to discord Genji and Winston can burn him down pretty quickly. Zarya, Symmetra, mei can also be effective.
There's exclusive rewards for finishing the 10 ranked placement games. I believe you'll get a season 1 spray. ranked is quite fun as people tend to take it more seriously than quickplay and with the 1 hero limit you won't end up fighting 5 dvas and 1 lucio on hanamura cheese
