Our Rivals Squad's next year - Liverpool 2015/2016

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No idea who he is, but hey, if he has ambitions he doesn't think we can fulfill, then all the best to him somewhere else.
He was quite highly rated as a young player I think.
 
Bogdan is better than Jones so that's an upgrade

Looks like they believe in mignolet and will stand by him, which is fair enough sometimes that's the right thing to do

He is definitely an upgrade on Jones and we got him for free. I don't see a problem getting a back up keeper for nothing.
 
He is definitely an upgrade on Jones and we got him for free. I don't see a problem getting a back up keeper for nothing.

While it's definitely an improvement to the squad, it's not the kind I would've liked us to make. Realistically, though, it's probably the one we HAD to make. We've far more pressing issues than Simon being our #1, and despite his great 2015, that still scares the tits outta me.
 
When people abuse mods on here, I always think of the "guys you can hit" scene from Departed.

 
While it's definitely an improvement to the squad, it's not the kind I would've liked us to make. Realistically, though, it's probably the one we HAD to make. We've far more pressing issues than Simon being our #1, and despite his great 2015, that still scares the tits outta me.

Guess we need to see the bigger picture, hopefully there are a couple of top quality players being brought in to supplement what we have so far.
 
Guess we need to see the bigger picture, hopefully there are a couple of top quality players being brought in to supplement what we have so far.

Hopefully. We're a very unbalanced team, in my opinion. We've got very good players like Coutinho, Sterling, Sturridge (when fit), and I'd say Skrtel too. Then we have players like Glen Johnson who get to start every week :lol: That's why I don't mind us selling Sterling for £40m+... Bring in some better players where they're needed most, promote Ibe/Markovic, sign a real bloody striker, and off we go into the Europa League.
 
Good business so far by the Pool in terms of value for money and wheelydealing... But I'm not convinced this is helping their case for top 4 just yet.
 
Good business so far by the Pool in terms of value for money and wheelydealing... But I'm not convinced this is helping their case for top 4 just yet.

Looks like they're trying to solidify their place in the top 6 rather than trying to break into the top 4.
 
Looks like they're trying to solidify their place in the top 6 rather than trying to break into the top 4.

Yeah I agree. The thing is though this frees up their cash to spend on a few real quality players unlike in the past where they were spending 5-10m on similar quality players and it was totting up.

The real question still remains though and has not yet been answered and that's whether the real top quality players will still go there this summer.
 
Signed Gomez for £3.5m with potential add ons. Very good transfer as he's only 18 and looked competent in the Championship. One certainly to look out for in the future. Not sure why they're stockpiling defenders though.
 
Good business so far by the Pool in terms of value for money and wheelydealing... But I'm not convinced this is helping their case for top 4 just yet.

Unfortunately, I think this is fair.

Signed Gomez for £3.5m with potential add ons. Very good transfer as he's only 18 and looked competent in the Championship. One certainly to look out for in the future. Not sure why they're stockpiling defenders though.

Signed Illori for £7m or so two summers ago, and it looks like he'll never play for us. Hopefully this deal doesn't turn out the same as that.
 
Signed Gomez for £3.5m with potential add ons. Very good transfer as he's only 18 and looked competent in the Championship. One certainly to look out for in the future. Not sure why they're stockpiling defenders though.

But we've not really got any real defenders to speak of. Our centrebacks are Skrtel, Sakho, Toure, Wisdom and Ilori. Four of these are either shite, loaned out or always injured (Sakho). The 5th is Skrtel who wouldn't walk into any other top 8 team. Its likely we're going to concede 40-50 goals again next season so might as well start 'grooming' defenders now rather than payng huge amounts for proven talent that might not come anyway. And have nothing left in the bank for a decent goalscorer - gonna need around 30-40m for that alone.
 
Not when he is replacing Jones. It's the biggest upgrade we will do on any one player in the squad. Replacing Ballotelli with Messi would be a smaller gap.
I don't agree on that, IF we were going to sign a new goalkeeper, it should've been someone who could challenge Mignolet for the #1 spot, not the reserve keeper from a Championship side. We needed someone who would make Mignolet work harder and play better, but that's not the case with Bogdan. Btw, replacing a 2-goal striker with a 60-goal striker is possibly the biggest gap you could ever ask for.
 
But we've not really got any real defenders to speak of. Our centrebacks are Skrtel, Sakho, Toure, Wisdom and Ilori. Four of these are either shite, loaned out or always injured (Sakho). The 5th is Skrtel who wouldn't walk into any other top 8 team. Its likely we're going to concede 40-50 goals again next season so might as well start 'grooming' defenders now rather than payng huge amounts for proven talent that might not come anyway. And have nothing left in the bank for a decent goalscorer - gonna need around 30-40m for that alone.

How could you forget the best of the lot? Lovren is going to tear it up next season.
 
Really looks like Henry enforcing Moneyball football. Wonder what the complete scouting stats are on that kid?
 
Really looks like Henry enforcing Moneyball football. Wonder what the complete scouting stats are on that kid?
He gets to first base, and we'll achieve a 20-game win streak next year :smirk:
 
Wiki taking the piss ? :p

Gomez has been described by some as having great character, being an excellent technician and having fantastic power and pace. Many regard him as the next Abel Xavier, and as a complete footballer and composed ball-playing centre back with his style of play being compared to that of Titus Bramble whom he had idolised growing up.
 
Yeah I agree. The thing is though this frees up their cash to spend on a few real quality players unlike in the past where they were spending 5-10m on similar quality players and it was totting up.

The real question still remains though and has not yet been answered and that's whether the real top quality players will still go there this summer.

Very true. It's going to hurt them to lose Sterling because the only player of top quality they'll have is Sturridge and his injury problems aren't going away which is worrying. They need to get in 2 'big' players this window.
 
Very true. It's going to hurt them to lose Sterling because the only player of top quality they'll have is Sturridge and his injury problems aren't going away which is worrying. They need to get in 2 'big' players this window.

They need someone they can rally around too. The problem when they lost Suarez wasn't just his goals and his ability, it was also the fact that he brought the best out of the team because he inspired them by his quality. He made what are not great players play great football. And they haven't replaced that personality in the squad which I think is just as important as replacing his ability. (For the record, he's a massive cnut but can't ignore his ability sadly).

Really going to be tough for them without the CL this year. There's a better team in terms of quality as well as pulling power which requires players in the positions liverpool need players in in the PL alone - let alone competition from abroad for those players too.
 
go tommy!

:lol: Reminds me of Geoff the First Time Cottager.

Honestly, after last season, all I really want to see is good football on a weekly basis. Just make me glad I tuned in, regardless of the result.
 
:lol: Reminds me of Geoff the First Time Cottager.

Honestly, after last season, all I really want to see is good football on a weekly basis. Just make me glad I tuned in, regardless of the result.

Liverpool's football hasn't been that bad in all fairness though? Relatively they're a decent side to watch. The truth in my opinion is that this season was a huge disaster given the opportunity you'd had after making the top 4 last year and us not really being that great. Liverpool are in big trouble IMO.
 
Liverpool's football hasn't been that bad in all fairness though? Relatively they're a decent side to watch. The truth in my opinion is that this season was a huge disaster given the opportunity you'd had after making the top 4 last year and us not really being that great. Liverpool are in big trouble IMO.

13/14 was beautiful, but large portions of 14/15 were just dire. Playing with AMs as strikers, CDMs as RBs... Never again, please.
 
Liverpool's football hasn't been that bad in all fairness though? Relatively they're a decent side to watch. The truth in my opinion is that this season was a huge disaster given the opportunity you'd had after making the top 4 last year and us not really being that great. Liverpool are in big trouble IMO.

Maybe he is talking about the low amount of goals in comparison to the year before. They scored 52 goals and conceded 48, so they conceded 3 less than Hull who finished 18th and they scored four-five more goals then Stoke and Crystal Palace.

I agree though. Every time I watched them they played alright football so it is a bit surprising that their figures are so terrible.
 
Maybe he is talking about the low amount of goals in comparison to the year before. They scored 52 goals and conceded 48, so they conceded 3 less than Hull who finished 18th and they scored four-five more goals then Stoke and Crystal Palace.

I agree though. Every time I watched them they played alright football so it is a bit surprising that their figures are so terrible.

It's clear they lacked a goal scorer and it's clear they lack any real quality in defence. But overall their style wasn't bad - they just couldn't put them in the back of the net and they couldn't stop making stupid defensive mistakes.

They conceded a lot of goals the year before too but they relied on Suarez to get them out the hole which they obviously couldn't this year.

So for me, if I was a Liverpool fan, my concern wouldn't be the style of football but rather not spending money on dross (which they haven't so far this year) and actually making investments in quality where they need it.
 
13/14 was beautiful, but large portions of 14/15 were just dire. Playing with AMs as strikers, CDMs as RBs... Never again, please.

But that's because of your lack of quality in those positions. I don't think the core style was lost last year, but rather the ability to execute it properly. Hence my post above about what I'd be looking for.
 
It seems that Illarramendi is very close for 22mill €.Liverpool has some kind of football director to choose/negociate the signings?(someone like Zubizarreta before in Barcelona or Braida now) or the decisions are taken directly by Rodgers?
 
It seems that Illarramendi is very close for 22mill €.Liverpool has some kind of football director to choose/negociate the signings?(someone like Zubizarreta before in Barcelona or Braida now) or the decisions are taken directly by Rodgers?

Kind of. A man who goes by the name Ian Ayre.

Do you rate Illarramendi then?
 
Kind of. A man who goes by the name Ian Ayre.

Do you rate Illarramendi then?
In the under 21 team was excellent,he was supposed to be the next Alonso but I think that in Madrid he suffered Bernabeu stage fright,then a bad game in Dormund finished with his confidence,anyway I think that can be a good organizer.He has skill with the ball.In my opinion,for that price can be a good signing
 
Really not been impressed with Illara at all. Either he has a renaissance like Coutinho and Sturrudge when they came or we've signed a second Joe Allen for the same price.
 
So....

---------------Mignolet---------------
RB-------Skirtle-------Lovren-------LB
-------Milner---Can---Henderson-------
Firminho-------Ings-------Coutinho

No idea who their right and left backs will be but yeah looks quite mid table to me
 
So....

---------------Mignolet---------------
RB-------Skirtle-------Lovren-------LB
-------Milner---Can---Henderson-------
Firminho-------Ings-------Coutinho

No idea who their right and left backs will be but yeah looks quite mid table to me

Moreno and Clyne?. Chuck Sturridge upfront and it doesn't look bad at all.

Probably still finish 6th though.
 
More like...

Mignolet
RB Skrtel Sakho Moreno
Lucas Milner
Ibe Coutinho Lallana
FW

Or...

Mignolet
RB Skrtel Sakho Moreno
Lucas
Milner Hendo
Coutinho
Ings FW

If Ings is our #1 striker next season (can't count on Sturridge), then I'll be disappointed. There's no way we don't improve our forward choices if we're getting £40m+ for Raheem.

But yeah, it's a Europa League squad.
 
As Arsenal? Arsenal have the likes of Sanchez, Chamberlain, Welbeck and Walcott; proven players at getting beyond the opposition full backs with power and pace. Liverpool have one player in that mould of any real quality and he's about to be sold.

If they are relying on Clyne and Moreno to compensate for that then they are in bigger trouble than envisaged. Good players, but attacking demons they are not.

Walcott is a striker these days. He has taken people on down the wing and could do it as you state I agree but is brain dead most of the time at what to do after taking someone on. His best asset is attacking space, not a man.

Welbeck, see above but can do more for a team and a defensive output.

Sanchez, best shout of the lot but essentially cuts inside and runs toward goal. Can do it all but has more individual objectives, much like Firmino and Coutinho do.

Chamberlain, can do it all and I really like him but he's been injured for so long now. Will he do it again? Even so, he's better coming inside too. Clever, switched on and very skilful player.

Still think my point is valid, they're like-for-like in terms of style, not quality, at transitioning quickly and being heavily flexible and offering fluid interchanging options. Brendan will be in his element. Technical ability.
 
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