Other Wingers?

I havent seen anyone suggest Jonathan Viera, had a breakout season last year, only for Las Palmas but I would guess you coudl pick him up for a similar 50m-60m
 
I was meaning in comparison to Perisic for example, again he is more of a wide attacker comparatively, just was aware noone had mentioned Viera in a thread about "wingers"
 
Balde Keita should be under consideration if we don't get Perisic. Seems like he wouldn't cost alot either.
 
Well, 3 signings are in the bag and there's entire August to try and bring wide attacker.
I mentioned it elsewhere, I believe we have artificial deadlines for our signings - pre tour, as soon as tour is over, before first game of season and then eventually transfer window deadline.
Mikhi, Mata and Lingard (to me) are executing same role in Mourinho's plans - playing on the right or through the middle.
Martial and Rashford playing through the left, with both giving rotation to Lukaku (Rashford being the more natural choice ahead of Tony).
Following this pattern, we are one attacker short on the left. And I believe Jose wants someone strong with both feet or left foot being the stronger. Perisic goal vs Chelsea is the perfect example.
I can't tell if we are on a budget, but last 3 summer windows we've spent around the £150m mark +/- a few million.
So far we are pretty much right there - £140m. I guess if we sign Aurier for the reported fee (I think it was 25) we will pass the mark and we'll beat by 6-7m what we've spent the most in a window.

Keeping all that in mind, the fact Mourinho wants 4 players, being close to Aurier, Perisic being a target and those playing in totally different positions, I find it quite hard to predict whether we will sign another winger.
We haven't been linked strongly to anyone else (iirc), but I really want us to make such addition. Tony M will be the one deployed the most on the left and he needs strong competition (I suppose there's no better competition than himself).

I still hope we go closer to the £200m mark and bring both Perisic (or other winger with such attributes) and Aurier. These are typical wide players, that will help stretch defences and open up cracks.
 
Seriously, how is Nani these days? Not seen anything of him since leaving us outside of some pretty decent performances for Portugal. As frustrating as he could be and despite being past his best now, if we were looking for a short-term option then... maybe? Obviously he'd cost more than the pathetic amount we sold him for, but at least his wages should be lower than under Moyes.

He had good season at Fenerbache scoring 12 and assisting 13, than was transferred to Valencia where he scored 5 and assisted 8 in 25 games last season but seems to have struggled quite a bit with a hamstring injurry which is why he missed so many games.
 
He had good season at Fenerbache scoring 12 and assisting 13, than was transferred to Valencia where he scored 5 and assisted 8 in 25 games last season but seems to have struggled quite a bit with a hamstring injurry which is why he missed so many games.
Thanks; I remember he was struggling with his hamstring at the end of his time with us - unfortunate if he's still having problems like that.
 
We will sign Perisic, it's obvious he is the fourth target. Mourinho has clearly given Woodward the green light to take his time and seek some sort of value before spunking 50m on him. He is training with Inter unlike Matic was, so he'll be fit when arrives.
 
It wont happen, but I would bring Nani back if givn a chance- I was devastated when he left.
 
If Barca and Real Madrid get Coutinho and Mbappe, I think that we should absolutely put all our money on Ousmane Dembele. He is an absolute beast. Right foot, left foot, dribbling, crossing, assisting, scoring, this guy has it all. I think we should offer something unrejectable, near 80 million should do the job. We need a new no.7 and a winger for our right wing, and he fits the bill perfectly. I think he would be interested to come here since Pogba and Martial are here, except if Barca or Madrid are in for him, then we are in trouble.
 
The market will surely have more major movements now, from the likes of Mbappe etc. More major incomings and outgoings. Probably for United too. Who could it be? Can't wait. :D
 
After watching the Sampdoria match and thinking about it a bit, I think our best formation is a 352 and is what we'll primarily play this season. In doing so, it basically eliminates the need for a true winger to be signed during this window and stops forcing us to play our more central players (Mhiki, Mata, Martial, Rashford) out wide.
 
That'd be quite underwhelming as he has produced nothing of note at PSG IMO.

I have not seen him play except a few times, but surely his stats for last season isn't all bad.

53 games in total, 19 goals and 11 assists.
 
That'd be quite underwhelming as he has produced nothing of note at PSG IMO.

Underwhelming?
I suggest you go and check his stats from last year (19 goals and 11 assists) versus someone like Lingard (3 goals and 3 assist) and have a rethink.
 
Underwhelming?
I suggest you go and check his stats from last year (19 goals and 11 assists) versus someone like Lingard (3 goals and 3 assist) and have a rethink.

Same age as Lingard too. It's unreal what people come up with isn't it? Shooting down Lucas Moura as underwhelming when he's been better than all our wingers or attacking mids. Including our target Perisic.
 
Lucas Moura is underwhelming in the sense that he's not the game changer Utd is crying out for. Dude has done nothing of note for PSG in Europe and he just doesn't seem to have a strong footballing IQ. In other words, if Utd aspires to compete for the CL they need to aim for better players than Moura.
 
Lucas Moura is underwhelming in the sense that he's not the game changer Utd is crying out for. Dude has done nothing of note for PSG in Europe and he just doesn't seem to have a strong footballing IQ. In other words, if Utd aspires to compete for the CL they need to aim for better players than Moura.

You don't go from finishing 6th in the league to (realistically) competing for the CL with one signing. The team has a lot of average players from Blind, Darmian, Jones, Smalling, Fellaini, Lingard, even Rashford and Martial until they realise their potential... maybe even Mata. We are pretty focking far.

Moura would not win you the CL, but he'd be an improvement over everything we've got. That's how you get there, with continuous gradual improvement. We don't actually have a right winger anyway and he's pretty good at that.
 
You don't go from finishing 6th in the league to (realistically) competing for the CL with one signing. The team has a lot of average players from Blind, Darmian, Jones, Smalling, Fellaini, Lingard, even Rashford and Martial until they realise their potential... maybe even Mata. We are pretty focking far.

Moura would not win you the CL, but he'd be an improvement over everything we've got. That's how you get there, with continuous gradual improvement. We don't actually have a right winger anyway and he's pretty good at that.
I tend to agree. Part of the problem under Moyes, and likely under LVG as well, is that the club seemed overly focused on buying players like Ronaldo and Bale, in hopes that they would instantaneously transform us into champions (and perhaps they would have), rather than acquiring a balanced squad of players of greater quality than existed before. Moyes didn't have much time, but he (combined with Woodward, who was new to the role) was a disaster in the transfer market. The club spent the entire summer chasing unattainable targets, only to end up with (and overpay for) Fellaini. LVG got rid of quite a few players, but those he replaced them with weren't clearly better, and in fact may have been worse. I'm not suggesting that efforts shouldn't be made to bring in the very best players - a club of United's stature and means should absolutely be doing so - but not while completely ignoring quality players who can improve the team and contribute to more wins. Jose is getting it right, in my opinion. He's the first Manager since Sir Alex who seems to understand how to actually build a championship calibre team. It doesn't typically happen over night, but given time and financial support, I'm confident that Mourinho will get it right. Matic isn't among the very best players in the world, but he's a very good one. He's better than all of our midfielders, bar Pogba and Herrera, and offers something the team vitally needs. Peresic would be the same. I haven't watched enough of Moura to really judge his progression over the past few years, but he could be another example of a very good, but not world class, player who could improve our team.
 
With Matic I would guess that we are going to play a 4-3-3 with Matic-Herrera-Pogba most of our games.
I am not a tactical expert but I would assume for that formation you need less of traditional wingers but more players who tend to drift into the middle and maybe interchange with the other attacking players.
With Mkhi/Mata right and Martial/Rashford left we would have such players.
Otherwise I am still wondering that no PL club seems to seriously be after Mahrez.
 
Mahrez would thrive under Mourinho. I really think he would. He's cost effective, immensely talented and is a confidence player and how can a player not be confident if you're playing for the Biggest Team, in the best stadium in a club who supporters idealise game-changers. Such an obvious move I think a few have mentioned it, but he's decided he'll only aim as high as Arsenal (again confidence issue). Mourinho would iron out the work rate stigma and he would settle quickly. Perfect age and perfect time to get him.
 
Lucas Moura is underwhelming in the sense that he's not the game changer Utd is crying out for. Dude has done nothing of note for PSG in Europe and he just doesn't seem to have a strong footballing IQ. In other words, if Utd aspires to compete for the CL they need to aim for better players than Moura.
You think Perisic is a game changer? Perisic has done nothing of note in Serie A or Bundesliga either.
 
It wont happen, but I would bring Nani back if givn a chance- I was devastated when he left.

If Mourinho took over after SAF he'd still be here still putting very good numbers on the board, produced 20 goals in 43 games mostly in la liga

I mean I think we should move on but if we can't get anyone then just bring him back he's still top class.

Obviously Sanchez would be brilliant but looks like he's staying
 
You think Perisic is a game changer? Perisic has done nothing of note in Serie A or Bundesliga either.
I'd find Perisic underwhelming too. It's time for United to compete for genuine top talent. However if that's not working out for whatever reasons...
 
Gelson Martins is the option we should have been chasing this summer and who I'm glad Liverpool missed out on as I think he's gonna be great for some top team, hopefully us:



Jeez, that boy has got some skills.
 
Thing is, it seems Jose wants a specific type of winger. That winger is someone who can play on the wings, but also have the attributes to cover wing back, if/when needed.

Players like Lemar, Dembele, Lucas, etc, haven't got what it takes to fulfil that type of role, hence why I can imagine Jose's not bidding for any of them.