We are due a run of good results soon if that happens they think they will be vindicated for sticking with Ole. I think they want to drag this out until summer I don't see any change coming for a new manager.
Ole Sack Watch
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er, the Glazer buyout?
Wouldn't that be the first, if you consider it a bad thing and it would negate the point about Woodward because he came with the Buyout?
Anyway with a bit of perspective post 2005 has been followed by one of the best period of the club history partially because we got rid of the previous PLC's stringent wage limits and built a juggernaut. I would personally argue that losing SAF was the worst thing to happen and anyone following him whether we are talking about executives or coaches were going to struggle because SAF used to work in a very peculiar way.
I can't agree with anyone that doesn't think the Glazers were the worst thing to happen to United in the PL eraWouldn't that be the first, if you consider it a bad thing and it would negate the point about Woodward because he came with the Buyout?
Anyway with a bit of perspective post 2005 has been followed by one of the best period of the club history partially because we got rid of the previous PLC's stringent wage limits and built a juggernaut. I would personally argue that losing SAF was the worst thing to happen and anyone following him whether we are talking about executives or coaches were going to struggle because SAF used to work in a very peculiar way.
Match going fans support is the only input a lot of these corporate types get. Manchester City was the first time I saw some booing directed at Ole. It makes sense from their perspective.
If they have made the decision to sack him, why not do it at the start of the international break? Why wait and prolong both his (Ole) and our misery??
They probably made the decision to sack him after City, possibly before, and have been searching for a replacement this whole time. They're obviously reluctant to appoint an interim.
I can't agree with anyone that doesn't think the Glazers were the worst thing to happen to United in the PL era
That's not the point made, the point is that United doesn't have many bad things that have happened, any bad thing is the worst and in your case it would be the Buyout which would be the first.
Edit: For me it's the first PLC or SAF leaving, the former didn't actually affect the club ability to be successful while the later did.
Mainly because it would show them up as the incompetents that they are. Woodward et al putting their own reputations above what's best for the club. He should be strung up...metaphorically speaking obvs
Why would they? We went from semis to a final and from 3rd to second. Never mind how badly we were playing or how lucky we were in getting results. Or the fact the only reason we got to that final was from crashing out at the first hurdle of the thing we were supposed to be competing for. Which is a little like being relegated from the league but finishing runner up in the league below and celebrating that as an achievement. This board don’t understand football they simply see results. On the pitch and profit. So a 2-0 humiliation at the hands of City who only played one half but still coulda scored 5 is seen as a massive improvement over the 5-0 against Liverpool. They are simply incompetent and not fit for the position. We need real football people at this club. And that goes for the manager too. Who bleeds United but shits mediocrity.
They are the worst thing that has happened. I mean, it could've been even worse. But Glazers are parasites with no clue how to run a football club.I can't agree with anyone that doesn't think the Glazers were the worst thing to happen to United in the PL era
Yeah, you were effectively shrugging your shoulders at the original post that you responded to, because, as you say 'United doesn't have many bad things that have happened'. I was just pointing out that the original post, and your subsequent post were kind of ignoring the elephant in the room...what I think most United fans would view as the worst thing to happen to the club in the PL....the Glazers.
Before the Glazers it was Martin Edwards.
not so much as the parasites watching the same team as us, I’m not sure we’re even watching the same sport..
I absolutely believe the decision has been made to sack him when a replacement becomes available and the board will string Ole along until that point. Horrendous treatment of the manager and the fans, but hardly surprising.
I see but I ddin't ignore it, the post that you quoted wasn't a list and didn't state that there was no bad things that happened. I don't really see your point.
100% agree. The Glazers dont udnerstand football and seem to rely on Woodward. The guy who tried to sell Klopp the job by comparing it to Disneyland. And his likely successor Richard Arnold said we have 26 George Clooneys. They are that clueless, why are we surprised? Too many top Reds then buy into their delusions by saying we are not 'a sacking club', like Chelsea fans care as they expand the trophy cabinet. We are a joke club. Oppo fans sing 'ole at the wheel', my City supporting mates cant even be bothered with sending taunts.
Like a CRB check? Is Rogers going to be discounted because of his unpaid parking tickets or something?
Latest article from Athletic states that we have no intention of sacking Ole for now since this is the first blip in 3 years and they want to support Ole during this period.
We haven't spoken to any other manager out of respect to Ole.
Also Ed doesn't want to Sack Ole since he has invested so much and he doesn't want to sack him and leave.
Murtough also doesn't want a new manager when he takes over.
They have admiration towards Rodgers, Poch and Ten Hag. Zidane doesn't want to come and we were never interested in Conte. We have no succession planning atleast, we are yet to be matured in that aspect but Fletcher and Co, is working towards it.
No interest in Ralf or Overmars.
Make whatever you want guys.
We haven't spoken to any other manager out of respect to Ole.
Also Ed doesn't want to Sack Ole since he has invested so much and he doesn't want to sack him and leave.
Murtough also doesn't want a new manager when he takes over.
They have admiration towards Rodgers, Poch and Ten Hag. Zidane doesn't want to come and we were never interested in Conte. We have no succession planning atleast, we are yet to be matured in that aspect but Fletcher and Co, is working towards it.
No interest in Ralf or Overmars.
Make whatever you want guys.
It wouldn't be a nice way to treat Ole no, but I could at least respect it, if that's what the club are doing, because it would at least indicate they are thinking ahead with the best intentions of the club.
Rather than seemingly let us slide without doing anything proactive whatsoever behind the scenes, because the latter is criminal.
They did the same with Moyes and van Gaal. A horrible bunch of people this board, I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.
They are manufacturing excuses for keeping him. What's clear is that Woodward doesn't want to sack Ole and earn the ignominy of having appointed four failed managers and Arnold doesn't want to start his stint with sacking someone they think is a popular manager. What we are seeing are just excuses and we will, one day, hear that they had never seriously approached anyone for the job.
What I think will happen is that the team will lose a few more games, get knocked out of the CL, the situation will turn toxic even for a brainless idiot like Woodward to ignore and they will sack him in a panic as a last dice move to appease the fans. Soon after they will panic and appoint Fletcher as a caretaker who will flatter to deceive, rinse and repeat and before we know it we will be in 2042 having won nothing of note since Fergie.
That one bothers me more than it should. He compared Old Trafford, the Theatre of dreams, to Disneyland, a place built for entertainment, he didn't compare the club nor the job to it. The crazy thing about it is that while it's cheesy, it was spot on, it's in the spirit of Sir Matt Busby declaring that Old Trafford should provide entertainment to the hard working people that come every weekends.
I'm baffled by the fact that Klopp took an obvious cheap shot at the club in order to please his new fanbase and our fanbase weaponized it against the club. It's even worse when you know that Klopp rejected everyone that summer in order to stay one more year at Dortmund that he left after an underwhelming season.
The Glazers, They Fall
It will be some read when someone compiles the last decade of corporate greed running this once great club into the ground.
It will be some read when someone compiles the last decade of corporate greed running this once great club into the ground.
Is that fair? You tell me that I ignored something that I didn't ignore, it's a bit difficult to understand.
These quotes can't be serious? First real blip? Out of respect we can't talk to other managers?
Not sure how you work out quite so specifically what Woodward meant by his quote, but I think to draw some deep parallel with the spirit of Busby is straw grasping.
I associate Disneyland with Mickey Mouse and kids rides, maybe you have a different perspective. I would never have expected MUFC or anything related to it would be compared to Disneyland, although Disney is very good at one thing, making money at every opportunity. The idea that Klopp, who is clearly passionate about his football, would buy into such cheap terms and imagery to me shows how out of touch Woodward is.
They are thinking a season at a time and to them not being anywhere near winning the league is the first blip. They look at long term as it says, so full season 1, 3rd and semi, season 2, 2nd and final, so by their twisted logic we should have done a double (pick any cup) this season.
Because the alleged quote is about the Theatre of dreams and states that it is where the entertainment is world class and dreams come true? If the quote is legit then it's not really cryptic, the Theatre of Dreams is Old Trafford's nickname and the mention of entertainment is something professed by Sir Matt Busby. This line is cheesy but it refers to two things actually linked to United one by Sir Bobby Charlton and the other by Sir Matt Busby.
And we are talking about the same Klopp who was singing YAWN which is as cheap as it gets.
I would take 10 years of Ole (I was and always have been an Ole never iner) if it meant we could get rid of the Glazers.
There has to be some financial reason.
Everything is related to finance/business.
For footballing reasons, Ole would already be sacked.
jeez, let it go man!
Ole has himself surrounded by people who will back him no matter what he produces, which is obvious by now.
He has long time friends in the board, Darren Fletcher is the technical director and half of the the pundits on TV are his pals.
If the Glazers are as clueless as we think they are when it comes to football it wouldn't be a hard task for his buddies at the club and on TV to sell them whatever they want, and what they want is protect their buddy. He really has to hit rock bottom before they turn on him.
First blip in three years 
So never mind disrespect to the club and fans. First blip my ass, since Ole's interim ended it's been up and mostly down shite sprinkled with an empty ground unbeaten away record.
Ole is obviously bigger than the club according to our terrible board and owners.
I choose to believe my own speculation.
Ole is obviously bigger than the club according to our terrible board and owners.
I choose to believe my own speculation.
Why do journalists even bother asking those questions? What do they expect him to say “Oh yes I’ve seen all the speculation and I’d absolutely jump at the chance to manage Utd and leave my current employer high and dry without a manager”.
yeah zero chance Ole is going anywhere anytime soon. Unless somehow Zidane is lured out wont be anything until the summer.
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