Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

  • Total voters
    3,423
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The molly-coddling of a club legend is taking precedence over the welfare of Man United as a whole.

This club is drowning in sentimentality.
The club isn’t drowning in sentimentality, it’s drowning in self-interest - Woodward and co doing their level best to avoid looking like rank amateurs and still managing to fail miserably.
 
The molly-coddling of a club legend is taking precedence over the welfare of Man United as a whole.

This club is drowning in sentimentality.

Eh it's just daily mail making things up. The actual quote was:

'While these financial results today demonstrate our resilience through the pandemic, our top priority is success on the pitch,' Woodward said on Wednesday.

'The manager, players and everyone at the club are determined to achieve that objective.'

Ole is 100% going to leave. The question is who is going to replace him and when.
 
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Click bait article. Bet saps like Goldbridge will fall for it.

Here is what he said, its not really a reflection on Oles situation to be honest :

While these financial results today demonstrate our resilience through the pandemic, our top priority is success on the pitch,' Woodward said on Wednesday.

'The manager, players and everyone at the club are determined to achieve that objective.'
Is that not saying they're supporting Ole? It's present tense about our current manager. Ole, the players and everyone at the club are determined to achieve success on the pitch.
 
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Is that not saying they're supporting Ole? It's present tense about our current manager. Ole, the players and everyone at the club are determined to achieve success on the pitch.

I'm determined to be a successful player for this team.

But I'm shite so it doesn't matter how determined I may be. I'm still shit
 
Damn, all the news coming out from the club recently is just depressing to us fans. Keeping Ole and risking losing players and a C.L spot is just beyond me! I mean what more Ole can do to get the sack! Almost at every stats shown we are such performing as a relegation side and a heavy defeat from our main rivals and a lesson in football from City! What else should we wait for for this club to say yes it’s enough.

And after all of this we hear we will wait to hire Rodgers at end of the season!
 
The molly-coddling of a club legend is taking precedence over the welfare of Man United as a whole.

This club is drowning in sentimentality.

"Departing vice chairman" :lol: Let's see what actually happens in the next few months.

Edward Woodward is the single worst thing to have happened to the club in the premier league era. This egoistic maniac in adult Disneyland has dragged the club down so far and continues to do so to feed his ego. Nobody comes close in terms of the damage inflicted on the club.
 
Would you rather keep Ole?
Sincere question.
I’d rather keep Ole until the end of the season if it meant not appointing Rodgers. What we want is a PL title. Is he going to beat Pep/ Klopp / Tuchel over the course of a season ? Not a hope . People have so much hatred of Ole they just want him gone and think Rodgers is going to change the club.

He’s better than Ole yes but he’ll be a let’s get top 4 every season manager. And after a year it’ll be hatred for Rodgers when they realise he’s way in over his head as well.
 
I’d rather keep Ole until the end of the season if it meant not appointing Rodgers. What we want is a PL title. Is he going to beat Pep/ Klopp / Tuchel over the course of a season ? Not a hope . People have so much hatred of Ole they just want him gone and think Rodgers is going to change the club.

I can't say I'm seeing anyone out there right now who I can definitely say will beat them to a title.

Anyhow, there are several factors involved in winning a championship. Having a manager who lifts the team rather than limit it would be a part of it. Whether it's enough or not, who knows.
 
I want to see Ole come out fighting. Enough with the smiley thumbs up nice guy approach. I want to see him show a bit of aggression and start instructing his team from the sideline. Assuming he has the season then he should employ a couple of experienced coaches now.

My main concern is that he does nothing..

No new coaches.
Hands in his pockets chatting to Carrick on the bench all game.
Boring scripted press conferences talking about progression and "things we need to do better".
 
I want to see Ole come out fighting. Enough with the smiley thumbs up nice guy approach. I want to see him show a bit of aggression and start instructing his team from the sideline. Assuming he has the season then he should employ a couple of experienced coaches now.

My main concern is that he does nothing..

No new coaches.
Hands in his pockets chatting to Carrick on the bench all game.
Boring scripted press conferences talking about progression and "things we need to do better".

He won't stop with the "nice guy approach" because he doesn't have the leverage to do so. It's the same reason why he will never speak up against the board. He has zero credentials to be the manager of one of the most successful and biggest clubs in the world. If he gets fired from this job, he's not getting offered jobs anywhere near the same level. He also can't exactly take authoritarian approaches with the players because his job depends on dearly holding onto the grace of the players.

The only thing he can do to prolong his job is to keep smiling and suck up to both the boards and the core group of players.
 
My heart just skipped a beat, an article comes up from football 365 on my work laptop entitled "Manchester United decide to sack Solskjaer with preferred candidate named"

I then realise this is from yesterday and probably trash, and he remains
 
The molly-coddling of a club legend is taking precedence over the welfare of Man United as a whole.

This club is drowning in sentimentality.


"While these financial results today demonstrate our resilience through the pandemic, our top priority is success on the pitch,"Woodward said on Wednesday.

"The manager, players and everyone at the club are determined to achieve that objective."


These the only quotes from Ed in that article, and I don't see anything in them that says he's in full support of Ole.

Nothing to see here, just a another sensationalist headline created under the assumption that people won't read the full artile.
 


First real Blip, wow what are they watching?

I remember Newcastle, Burnley in his first season, that was his first blip, was very lucky to survive that.

Then came, 6-1 to Spurs, 1 point from 2 CL games to qualify and couldn't manage that, getting knocked out of the CL groups, and now this. He has a massive blip that costs us challenging for trophies.

To add to that, we haven't played good football at all anyway.
 
First real Blip, wow what are they watching?

I remember Newcastle, Burnley in his first season, that was his first blip, was very lucky to survive that.

Then came, 6-1 to Spurs, 1 point from 2 CL games to qualify and couldn't manage that, getting knocked out of the CL groups, and now this. He has a massive blip that costs us challenging for trophies.

To add to that, we haven't played good football at all anyway.


That was arguably his 3rd "blip".

1st one came right after he was appointed permanent manager

The 2nd one came right after the start of the next season when we won 1 league game out of 8 and had losses to CP, WHU, and Newcastle.

The 3rd was the Burnley one which came after loses to the likes of Watford and Arsenal.

Of course, these weren't really blips but more of a total collapses just like this season.
 


As expected really. He's staying for the foreseeable future, possibly even the entire season which is such a shame as we are yet again throwing away another season. WIth all the talent we have in the squad, i'm just so gutted.
 
That was arguably his 3rd "blip".

1st one came right after he was appointed permanent manager

The 2nd one came right after the start of the next season when we won 1 league game out of 8.

The 3rd was the Burnley one which came after loses to the likes of Watford and Arsenal.

Of course, these weren't really blips but more of a total collapses just like this season.

Exactly, a blip for me is not 1 win in 4 or something like that. For a top tier club / team, that is what I consider a blip.

I agree about the collapse, we have 1 /2 collapses a season which completely derails our whole season, which leads us to writing the whole season off.

Its so clear that the board have absolutely no clue about football, I am surprised someone like Darren Fletcher is so oblivious to this, he was part of a winning machine.

I guess its the same thing for him too £££ > football.
 
Maybe reading too much into it, but I’m fairly sure that’s the first time Woodward has said ‘The Manager’ rather than ‘Ole’ in our financial summations since he took over. These little things can show a big change in thought process.
 
Maybe reading too much into it, but I’m fairly sure that’s the first time Woodward has said ‘The Manager’ rather than ‘Ole’ in our financial summations since he took over. These little things can show a big change in thought process.
In what sense? As in Ole is not definitely staying as the manager?
 
In what sense? As in Ole is not definitely staying as the manager?

When Woodward was telling all shareholders in the summer that he’d ‘never been more confident’ of the progress being made, and previously the work being done during the lockdown months of ‘20 it was ‘Ole and the players’ when talking about the management and direction we were taking. In the last review it’s now ‘The Manager and players’. Could only be a little slip, but (as a Director myself) it sometimes shows a lessening of support or a reduction in the relationship. I’d take it as a clear message to Ole that he’s now simply a manager under fire who can and possibly will be replaced before the financial year is out, no longer ‘our mate Ole who we have full confidence in’.
 
The sad thing is that this is probably true. Until three-four weeks ago, the United board thought we were doing brilliantly and never figured out there was any problem at all.
 
Whatever you think of Solskjaer the manager, surely you have to feel a bit for the guy as a person? He's working his arse off in a high pressure job and has been turned on from all quarters - the press, ex-players, seemingly some of his own players, our own fans, rival fans taking the piss, the club hierachy don't seem interested in publicly backing him and are clearly speaking to other candidates, while at the same time having no interest seemingly putting him out his misery and letting him to continue to take the abuse.

He's got to then turn up to work in front of the world's eyes and motivate a group of players who seemingly don't believe him in any more, in a job he's probably going to get sacked from at some point in the not too distant future.

Yes he's rewarded handsomely for it, but he must feel like shit regardless at the moment. It's pretty painful seeing one of your club idols go through that, especially as he seems like a decent guy.

I believe his time is up now, but at least I hope in the interim he comes out swinging rather than going out with a whimper. The City line up/performance suggested that won't be the case, but maybe a bit of time off this week will have allowed him to reflect on what he needs to do.

If the first team have really given up on him, and the fringe players truly thing they deserve to be starting - throw them in for the Watford game. Don't stick to some game plan which clearly isn't working and roll the dice.
 
What do we think will make the crowd properly turn ie Tottenham fans vs us level of turn. That could be our only hope, more luck has come his way with our next few fixtures being away, continuing to remove the heat off him.

Did Liverpool fans turn on King Kenny and Chelsea fans on Lampard? Or did they not get the chance due to a competent club actually removing them in a timely manner?

It sickens me that this could be allowed to continue for the whole season. If it was someone with Klopp or Peps record and we were massively injury hit, maybe it would be fair giving them time. What the feck has Ole done or shown to warrant giving him this complete and utter blind faith. I feel at this point absolutely nothing gets him out.

It's criminal he's being allowed to ruin this squad and risk a mass exodus in the summer, leaving us even further back than where we started.

I'd love for amazon to make one of those documentaries behind the scenes with us and properly expose the shear level of failings. Wonder what it would be called...
Family.
 
"Departing vice chairman" :lol: Let's see what actually happens in the next few months.

Edward Woodward is the single worst thing to have happened to the club in the premier league era. This egoistic maniac in adult Disneyland has dragged the club down so far and continues to do so to feed his ego. Nobody comes close in terms of the damage inflicted on the club.
Depressing but accurate, he is the worst ever - an epic disaster.
 
"Departing vice chairman" :lol: Let's see what actually happens in the next few months.

Edward Woodward is the single worst thing to have happened to the club in the premier league era. This egoistic maniac in adult Disneyland has dragged the club down so far and continues to do so to feed his ego. Nobody comes close in terms of the damage inflicted on the club.

That's not saying much, United outrageously dominated the PL era, any bad thing is the worst since it would be the first.
 
Whatever you think of Solskjaer the manager, surely you have to feel a bit for the guy as a person? He's working his arse off in a high pressure job and has been turned on from all quarters - the press, ex-players, seemingly some of his own players, our own fans, rival fans taking the piss, the club hierachy don't seem interested in publicly backing him and are clearly speaking to other candidates, while at the same time having no interest seemingly putting him out his misery and letting him to continue to take the abuse.

He's got to then turn up to work in front of the world's eyes and motivate a group of players who seemingly don't believe him in any more, in a job he's probably going to get sacked from at some point in the not too distant future.

Yes he's rewarded handsomely for it, but he must feel like shit regardless at the moment. It's pretty painful seeing one of your club idols go through that, especially as he seems like a decent guy.

I believe his time is up now, but at least I hope in the interim he comes out swinging rather than going out with a whimper. The City line up/performance suggested that won't be the case, but maybe a bit of time off this week will have allowed him to reflect on what he needs to do.

If the first team have really given up on him, and the fringe players truly thing they deserve to be starting - throw them in for the Watford game. Don't stick to some game plan which clearly isn't working and roll the dice.

I stopped felling sorry for him when he decided to feck off back to Norway for a holiday slap bang in the middle of a crisis.

Surely anybody in the same position would have wanted to spend this international break with their coaches at Carington trying to work out how to turn this around?
 
Assuming the story is true, what do the Glazers gain from keeping Ole? They have no true affection to the club, they never watched United when Ole was a key player. I don't understand this strong backing from them.

It does make sense for some others on the board to back Ole though, which would mean the Glazers take their advice seriously. Could be that really
 
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