Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

  • Total voters
    3,423
  • Poll closed .
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What do we think will make the crowd properly turn ie Tottenham fans vs us level of turn. That could be our only hope, more luck has come his way with our next few fixtures being away, continuing to remove the heat off him.

Did Liverpool fans turn on King Kenny and Chelsea fans on Lampard? Or did they not get the chance due to a competent club actually removing them in a timely manner?

It sickens me that this could be allowed to continue for the whole season. If it was someone with Klopp or Peps record and we were massively injury hit, maybe it would be fair giving them time. What the feck has Ole done or shown to warrant giving him this complete and utter blind faith. I feel at this point absolutely nothing gets him out.

It's criminal he's being allowed to ruin this squad and risk a mass exodus in the summer, leaving us even further back than where we started.

I'd love for amazon to make one of those documentaries behind the scenes with us and properly expose the shear level of failings. Wonder what it would be called...
 
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Course they will. New manager has a few half decent results and all of a sudden the entire fanbase will forget all the board's failings, it took until losing 5-0 at OT to get the home crowd mostly in the Ole out camp. The board might say they expected a title challenge but if that were the case he would've been gone ages ago. Regardless, this team is going to fall apart in summer, a rebuild is inevitable whether they like it or not. It's completely their own doing, no more than we deserve,
Right on, poor results and the apparent undeserved protection the manager is getting from the club will only breed a vicious bout of toxicity. Some players will want out and others will lose their heads - from rampant criticism brought about by being overplayed whilst out of form - such that we will find ourselves needing about five starters at the end of the season.

It's happened after every failed rein that we have to go into full rebuild mode. Then compound the predicament with a potential lack of CL football and how it impacts our ability to attract talent you will see just how damaging keeping Ole beyond this period will be.
 
Writing off yet another season has to be the final nail in the coffin for this club’s hierarchy.

The only way in which I can fathom keeping Ole in charge for the rest of the season is if we have an agreement in place with a manager who will in my leave at the end of the season e.g Ten Hag.

Somehow I don’t quite think that’s the case given our shite board. The can’t see past their nose, at best.
 
They've done that but in the form of Nepotism FC. They ask an old and sentimental Fergie, even older Sir Bobby and the likes of Robbo, Neville etc. It's no wonder we have a very insular and traditional set up which has turned into jobs for the boys.
I have huge respect for SAF as the icon and legend he is, but I’m starting to come round to this way of thinking now. How much influence is he having at board level… They should be able to see it’s not quite working out and it’s time for new ideas and models. Just a classic case of a company not moving with the times and being outpaced by competitors. Wonder if there’s any ‘canaries in the coal mine’ in the club who are raising concerns that club could eventually go Woolworths. I guess the brands so strong and iconic, in large part due to SAF ironically, that it won’t matter for a while, Eventually it will though, we’ll have Newcastle pushing us out of the top 4 before too long.
 
I’ve loved this international break - given me a break from football as I couldnt care less about England because of the treatment of United players in the past whilst wearing the national shirt. Now another game looms on the horizon for ole and his not so merrymen - small mercies is it’s away and I was unsuccessful in the ballot. Depressing after such a bright start against Leeds in those heady days in August. Ole out - simple as that.
 
What's wrong with what he's done at Leicester? With their squad and resources they have no business competing for top 4 yet he's kept them consistently close enough there, and delivered them an FA cup beating Tuchel's Chelsea.

The amount of disrespect Rodgers receives is baffling, he's 10x the coach Ole is and will likely do very well with our squad and resources and get us playing attractive football to boot. We're not getting Zidane or Ten Hag.

David Moyes had Everton near the top 4 consistently with his resources, hell he's doing it again with West Ham, why not hire him
 
What do we think will make the crowd properly turn ie Tottenham fans vs us level of turn. That could be our only hope, more luck has come his way with our next few fixtures being away, continuing to remove the heat off him.

Did Liverpool fans turn on King Kenny and Chelsea fans on Lampard? Or did they not get the chance due to a competent club actually removing them in a timely manner?

It sickens me that this could be allowed to continue for the whole season. If it was someone with Klopp or Peps record and we were massively injury hit, maybe it would be fair giving them time. What the feck has Ole done or shown to warrant giving him this complete and utter blind faith. I feel at this point absolutely nothing gets him out.

It's criminal he's being allowed to ruin this squad and risk a mass exodus in the summer, leaving us even further back than where we started.

I'd love for amazon to make one of those documentaries behind the scenes with us and properly expose the shear level of failings. Wonder what it would be called...
‘no one’s at the wheel’ / ‘wheel of fortune’

wonder if it would go in documentary or comedy list.
 
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I get the board are a bit incompetent with footballing matters. What I don’t get is why they then don’t spend a bit of money employing some people who do. Maybe they do do this and they’re just not good at their jobs. But they obviously have some cash to splash around. I’m sure there are some pro level analysts at there who would jump at the kind of salary and prestige of being offered such a role by a club like Utd. The board is mostly finance or business guys, I’m sure they wouldn’t employ business analysts that had no idea what they were doing or at the least incompetent. They wouldn’t be hired in the first place, and they’d get sacked within months. Why do they take this approach with football and not learn. It’s stupefying, There’s about a dozen clubs in the premier league alone that conduct football matters much more professionally on a fraction of the budget. Why the feck do they not learn? .
The problem is that the Glazers have entrusted Woodward with all strategic and operational authority, I think they just give him broad parameters in which he operates and only come in for the big decisions but even then Woodward will have their ear. Problem with Woodward is the nepotism and the way he pushes ego above everything else.

Woodward is too invested in the Ole project and this dilly dallying delaying the inevitable is him buying Ole some time to turn it around.
 
Ed is probably not getting Christmas bonus if he pays Ole the 7-8mil before Jan 1st.
 
The problem is that the Glazers have entrusted Woodward with all strategic and operational authority, I think they just give him broad parameters in which he operates and only come in for the big decisions but even then Woodward will have their ear. Problem with Woodward is the nepotism and the way he pushes ego above everything else.

Woodward is too invested in the Ole project and this dilly dallying delaying the inevitable is him buying Ole some time to turn it around.
It’s arrogant of him to ‘dabble’ in football the way he is.it’s like a side project. Sadly that seems exactly what it is.
 
If we are just waiting for Rodgers until the summer, then we really want to become a Europa league team
 
The only way I’d be happy to wait until the summer is if we’re guaranteed Ten Hag. If not, what’s the point? Rodgers, if we’re to believe the media and assume he’s our first choice, should jump at the chance to come here mid-season. He isn’t going to have Barcelona knocking on his door. I also don’t buy this stuff about him replacing Pep.
 
David Moyes had Everton near the top 4 consistently with his resources, hell he's doing it again with West Ham, why not hire him
At a time when the premier league was less competitive? He's won no trophies, didn't play attractive football, and didn't come close to winning the league with a big club (United) like Rodgers did with Liverpool. They're nothing alike.
 

Click bait article. Bet saps like Goldbridge will fall for it.

Here is what he said, its not really a reflection on Oles situation to be honest :

While these financial results today demonstrate our resilience through the pandemic, our top priority is success on the pitch,' Woodward said on Wednesday.

'The manager, players and everyone at the club are determined to achieve that objective.'
 
So it pretty much confirms they'd rather die on the hill of supporting Ole than look "bad" (I think they'd look good for admitting they made a mistake) and fire someone after giving him a new contract.
No, read the article. Just a throwaway line.
 
I'd love for amazon to make one of those documentaries behind the scenes with us and properly expose the shear level of failings. Wonder what it would be called...

I imagine it’ll be like The Office with Solskjaer being David Brent… speaking about buzzwords and buzzphrases about United DNA for 8 1 hour episodes or however long they are... as all the players look at the camera in dismay like Tim, when training takes place.

As we see everyone get interviewed across the series, except Donny van de Beek who just appears in the background and then finally gets his interview piece as the credits roll on the final episode… and the programme probably just terminates whilst mid-sentence.
 
I imagine it’ll be like The Office with Solskjaer being David Brent… speaking about buzzwords and buzzphrases about United DNA for 8 1 hour episodes or however long they are... as all the players look at the camera in dismay like Tim, when training takes place.

As we see everyone get interviewed across the series, except Donny van de Beek who just appears in the background and then finally gets his interview piece Kodi nox as the credits roll on the final episode… and the programme probably just terminates whilst mid-sentence.
I think he damaged him by leaving him on the bench ,, he has to play more #oleout
 
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Have we announced a new manager? Why are all the managerial choice threads locked?
 
At a time when the premier league was less competitive? He's won no trophies, didn't play attractive football, and didn't come close to winning the league with a big club (United) like Rodgers did with Liverpool. They're nothing alike.

Okay, you covered Everton but you left out West Ham, sitting 3 places above us in 3rd currently, playing much better football and getting better results, that's now, with Leicester sitting in 12th and playing worse than us somehow... so?
 
Have we announced a new manager? Why are all the managerial choice threads locked?

They want to discuss it all in one thread, some of the threads are unneeded but I also think some of them should be left opened. Feels weird.
 
I would have said, something truly crazy would have to happen. For instance an unthinkable, nightmare type of result like losing 5-0 at home to Liverpool or something.

Nothing that can possibly occur from now until the end of the season could top that result. The fans ain't turning unless Ole literally takes a shite in the middle of the Old Trafford pitch. Even then he'd probably get an applause.
 
‘no one’s at the wheel’ / ‘wheel of fortune’

wonder if it would go in documentary or comedy list.

Good question, probably comedy but also those programmes or books that people who want to be successful read as an example of exactly what not to do, how not to ruin a business, upset customers and employees while sitting back and watching it crash and burn

Ole or Nothing.

It really fecking feels like it is him or nothing

I imagine it’ll be like The Office with Solskjaer being David Brent… speaking about buzzwords and buzzphrases about United DNA for 8 1 hour episodes or however long they are... as all the players look at the camera in dismay like Tim, when training takes place.

As we see everyone get interviewed across the series, except Donny van de Beek who just appears in the background and then finally gets his interview piece as the credits roll on the final episode… and the programme probably just terminates whilst mid-sentence.

Be interesting to see exactly what "training" consists of, probably like play time at a school perhaps as at least then they are going out and having fun

I would have said, something truly crazy would have to happen. For instance an unthinkable, nightmare type of result like losing 5-0 at home to Liverpool or something.

I was at the Liverpool game, I only get to go once in a while, the booing was quite hostile at half time but not much at full time, but perhaps because most of the fans had left. It didn't sound that nasty vs City annoyingly. Probably the board is so far removed they think its our fans loudly singing that fecking Ole song
 
It’s hard to be positive after what has happened but I would like to think that Ole is not walking away because he knows Utd are after someone or have someone lined up for the end of the season. Whatever you want to say about his last 18 months and the “emperors new clothes“ like stunt he has pulled convincing everyone he knew what he was doing...he bleeds Utd and I doubt that he is hanging on selfishly. This will be killing him. So I have to believe the powers that be are keeping him there and he genuinely believes that’s a better option than whatever caretaker is being mooted internally.

...and the second the season is over Ten Hag is unveiled with Frenkie soon to follow. Pogba fuks off...Ronaldo leaves cause we have no CL and our new lineup of Frenkie DVB and Bruno in behind Sancho, Greenwood and Haaland starts tearing up the rule book with high intensity pressing and intricate link up play the likes of which noUtd fan ever thought they would see week in week out in OT.
 
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I don’t think Zidane is the safest choice but I think he’s the most exciting. If it worked, it would be incredible
Agree. It would be incredible! Just to put it out there, I would like to see Zidane at Utd, as I think our squad would suit him well. IF Ole failed to turn our season around. That said, if you’d watched Zidanes run I secunda B, you would be more sceptical. Having the by far most talented squad in the league, he horribly failed. Twice. He didn’t half ass get his squad right. As for his run at Real Madrid, it was a bit hit and miss, wasn’t it? If we like to look at flexible tactics and individual brilliance, which is popular on here.
 
On the plus side, at least our net debt reduced by £900,000 in the last 12 months :lol:

Now THAT is what I've been waiting to hear.
You can all moan about trophies, but I've privately been biting my nails about how much we will reduce the club debt and what the latest figure is.
Reducing the debt by £900k is a huge relief for me and for one, shall be celebrating for the rest of the week.
 
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