Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

  • Total voters
    3,423
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Why do journalists even bother asking those questions? What do they expect him to say “Oh yes I’ve seen all the speculation and I’d absolutely jump at the chance to manage Utd and leave my current employer high and dry without a manager”.
even better if he stated that he would be interested but is put off by the feedback in the caf.
 
I absolutely believe the decision has been made to sack him when a replacement becomes available and the board will string Ole along until that point. Horrendous treatment of the manager and the fans, but hardly surprising.

That's a pretty understandable way of doing things isn't it? Don't think it's anything horrendous. It is the best thing for the club. Much better than sacking him without a replacement in place and having a very public/chaotic manager search like Spurs and Newcastle did.
 
That's a pretty understandable way of doing things isn't it? Don't think it's anything horrendous. It is the best thing for the club. Much better than sacking him without a replacement in place and having a very public/chaotic manager search like Spurs and Newcastle did.
How would you feel if your employer sacked you and you discovered the decision had been made six months previously and everyone but you knew.
 
Ranieri always comes aa a decent man and a manager.

Lovely guy, and his record speaks for itself.

Took over Napoli post-Maradona and gave Gianfranco Zola and Daniel Fonseca their debuts.
Took over that Fiorentina with Batistuta and Rui Costa whilst in Serie B, got them promoted and won trophies for the next two years after that.
Took over Valencia and was very successful.
The list goes on
 
First blip in three years?!! :lol: Even Ole has said himself there's been a crisis every season he's been here but he's bounced back from all of them.
 
How would you feel if your employer sacked you and you discovered the decision had been made six months previously and everyone but you knew.

Not great. But hearing "we are going to sack you as soon as we find someone better" wouldn't make me feel any better. I'd probably feel worse if I was told they were planning on sacking me and until then I was expected to give my all in a very high pressure and public job.
 
Latest article from Athletic states that we have no intention of sacking Ole for now since this is the first blip in 3 years and they want to support Ole during this period.

We haven't spoken to any other manager out of respect to Ole.

Also Ed doesn't want to Sack Ole since he has invested so much and he doesn't want to sack him and leave.

Murtough also doesn't want a new manager when he takes over.

They have admiration towards Rodgers, Poch and Ten Hag. Zidane doesn't want to come and we were never interested in Conte. We have no succession planning atleast, we are yet to be matured in that aspect but Fletcher and Co, is working towards it.

No interest in Ralf or Overmars.

Make whatever you want guys.
Thanks for the summary. The reason to why they don't want to sack Ole are comical, guys scared of making a decision and most importantly, no plan in place.

This has all be obvious but it still amazes me how amatuerish our set up is.
 
Don't buy the propaganda from UTD that they can't find a replacement even an interim one. How many coaches have Chelsea sacked over the years and they were able to get an interim manager. The idea that there isn't a manager out there whose coached or coaching in any of the top European leagues who can take over for the rest of the season is ridiculous. There are other managers out there not named Zidane or Rodgers or Pochettino.
I mean Ragnick was interested.
The fact is they don't want to sack him this season and are biding time hoping a few good results will placate the fans. The brief after Liverpool game was they waiting till international break so they would have time to find a replacement. Now its no one is available. Really there's isn't a coach out there available who is better than Solskjaer who can do a job for 6 months.
 
Don't buy the propaganda from UTD that they can't find a replacement even an interim one. How many coaches have Chelsea sacked over the years and they were able to get an interim manager. The idea that there isn't a manager out there whose coached or coaching in any of the top European leagues who can take over for the rest of the season is ridiculous. There are other managers out there not named Zidane or Rodgers or Pochettino.
I mean Ragnick was interested.
The fact is they don't want to sack him this season and are biding time hoping a few good results will placate the fans. The brief after Liverpool game was they waiting till international break so they would have time to find a replacement. Now its no one is available. Really there's isn't a coach out there available who is better than Solskjaer who can do a job for 6 months.

Why wouldn't they want to sack him if he's underperforming?
 
TalkSPORT were talking earlier like Zidane would be the one if Ole were to go. It’ll certainly be interesting to see what happens, were we to lose to Watford
 
If we get hammered at home to Arsenal and Ole is still in charge after that it will be very very hard for me to get enthusiastic about this team in its current incarnation.
 
Maybe the club are working on replacing Ole in the background. But by not sacking him following the dreadful start to the season it sends out the message that they think the performances and results are acceptable or else it shows the club are incompetent and indecisive. It's similar to the criticism of Ole himself and his refusal to drop certain players.

No obvious alternative? There actually were and still are if the club could be bothered to do their research, we just aren't getting them in for reasons I can't understand.

I think Ole is going nowhere anytime soon.
 
Maybe the club are working on replacing Ole in the background. But by not sacking him following the dreadful start to the season it sends out the message that they think the performances and results are acceptable or else it shows the club are incompetent and indecisive. It's similar to the criticism of Ole himself and his refusal to drop certain players.

No obvious alternative? There actually were and still are if the club could be bothered to do their research, we just aren't getting them in for reasons I can't understand.

I think Ole is going nowhere anytime soon.

Yeah, Conte was so obvious and he wanted the job. The moment Spurs signed him up it was pretty obvious we weren't sacking Ole unless things get even worse (which is nearly impossible). The board wants to bet everything on Ole for stupid reasons. These leaks to other managers like Rodgers and Poch (and southgate) are intentional to make some fans rethink wanting Ole gone because these replacements aren't the ones they wanted. And it's worked I'd say.
 
Not great. But hearing "we are going to sack you as soon as we find someone better" wouldn't make me feel any better. I'd probably feel worse if I was told they were planning on sacking me and until then I was expected to give my all in a very high pressure and public job.
At least you would have got another 6 months of work out of it. And in Ole’s case a massive pay off too. I think that would soften the blow a bit.
 
Surely they can't be that stupid to think he is going to win the PL or CL.
 
Wouldn't that be the first, if you consider it a bad thing and it would negate the point about Woodward because he came with the Buyout? :D

Anyway with a bit of perspective post 2005 has been followed by one of the best period of the club history partially because we got rid of the previous PLC's stringent wage limits and built a juggernaut. I would personally argue that losing SAF was the worst thing to happen and anyone following him whether we are talking about executives or coaches were going to struggle because SAF used to work in a very peculiar way.

Wage limit restraint was busted by Keane circa 2000 and from there the PLC began doling out big contracts to key players and new signings.
 
Will a draw get him the sack straight away? I’ve been seeing reports that he’s gonna be sacked no matter what now after the last few results but it all comes down to wether it’s at the end of the season or before. Also at the end of the season we can weigh up options of who’s available.
 
Why wouldn't they want to sack him if he's underperforming?
If ??? He's underperforming. Plain and simple. Anyone with eyes can see that. Why they won't sack him. I don't know. My guess save money on the compensation and they like having a manager who won't turn on them publicly
 
Whatever you think of Solskjaer the manager, surely you have to feel a bit for the guy as a person? He's working his arse off in a high pressure job and has been turned on from all quarters

Honestly HOW has he worked his arse off? Players barely look coached after three years.
 
Honestly HOW has he worked his arse off? Players barely look coached after three years.
yeah that was a horrendous take. We switch formations and look like we dont actually train at all on how to effectively play whatever random formation of the day ole thinks about.
 
Chances on Donny saving Ole's job???
Ole has the luck of the devil, I swear. It wouldn't surprise me if Donny gets to start and starts putting in Iniesta-tier performances to save his job. Then suddenly - another 3 years contract for Ole and we repeat this whole process again.
 
Donny must have impressed them by shooting every time he got the ball like his life depended on it.
 
Whatever you think of Solskjaer the manager, surely you have to feel a bit for the guy as a person? He's working his arse off in a high pressure job and has been turned on from all quarters - the press, ex-players, seemingly some of his own players, our own fans, rival fans taking the piss, the club hierachy don't seem interested in publicly backing him and are clearly speaking to other candidates, while at the same time having no interest seemingly putting him out his misery and letting him to continue to take the abuse.

He's got to then turn up to work in front of the world's eyes and motivate a group of players who seemingly don't believe him in any more, in a job he's probably going to get sacked from at some point in the not too distant future.

Yes he's rewarded handsomely for it, but he must feel like shit regardless at the moment. It's pretty painful seeing one of your club idols go through that, especially as he seems like a decent guy.

I believe his time is up now, but at least I hope in the interim he comes out swinging rather than going out with a whimper. The City line up/performance suggested that won't be the case, but maybe a bit of time off this week will have allowed him to reflect on what he needs to do.

If the first team have really given up on him, and the fringe players truly thing they deserve to be starting - throw them in for the Watford game. Don't stick to some game plan which clearly isn't working and roll the dice.
Really ? He could have quit. He would still be rich. I don’t feel sorry at all since he is here for the paycheck. He made a good chunk of money from the club since he is here. If he doesn’t quit it means he is here for the money.
I’ll feel sorry for people treated as garbage every day at work while not in position to quit as the need to feed their families not for some rich guy pretending loving the club while waiting the sack for the money. He just showed he is not really better then José.
 
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