Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

  • Total voters
    3,423
  • Poll closed .
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He is staying. Let’s get behind the team tomorrow lads!


Sorry, but he's a con artist.

Notice how he always starts talking about his time as a player in most of his interviews.

He knows what he's doing, even his captain is reading from the same script now.
 
Yes. The fact Conte falls out with everyone he works with is a negative. Oddly enough it’d be a negative in any fecking job. I’m not sure that’s the critique you think it is.
What we need more than anything is someone with the tact and gravitas to be able to gain the Glazers’ trust and, having done so, tell them a few home truths. Scaring them by shouting certainly won’t help, but a yes man would be a disaster.
 
I imagine the likes of Arnold, Murtough and Fletcher are probably shitting themselves at the prospect of working with Conte. Much better to hang on to their Norwegian teddy bear at all costs.

And that sounds harsh on Fletcher who I think has got potential in his role - always seems very smart and switched on when I hear him speak - but it's a big ask of him so early on in this new career of his. It's shit though that we haven't got a strong enough structure/personalities to feel that we could cope with a demanding manager.
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Kind of a hopeless feeling when you feel like we are set to fire Ole but then are going to replace him with Rodgers and see Southgate linked :lol: Our club is a disaster.
 
I don’t understand this point. He’s literally the same man. A different job doesn’t make him a different person.

He’s says his 18 years at the club won’t be defined by the last few weeks, but it’s not the last 18 years it’s the last 3 years of his time as manager which has nothing to do with his time as a player. What he does as a manager shouldn’t influence what he did as a player in any way, the same as he shouldn’t be given extra leeway as a manager because of what he did as a player.
 
I know Conte isn’t the best fit in terms of playing style, but I wouldn’t mind him here just to have him completely upgrade the club. In the same way that it was obvious Ronaldo wouldn’t stand for anything but excellence, I think Conte would be the same. And at the very least it would fully show the board for what they are if he came and didn’t get what he wanted. There’s be no hiding place. For that reason alone I’d be happy to have him here. And also extremely excited to finally have a coach who knew what he was doing and could improve our players.
 


He is staying. Let’s get behind the team tomorrow lads!


I'm not watching the video as it'll just anger me no doubt. But the quote on the tweet makes it sound like a man that knows he's about to get sacked. Kind of like "I've achieved a lot at the club as a player and what's happened now won't change how I view my time here" sort of thing.

Is that how it came across?
 
He feels he’s entitled to this job, regardless of whether he‘s successful or not. He’s been spoilt, having all that money spent for him and he’s talking like he’s still at Cardiff City, taking them to relegation: “Need to get a result”. He’s constantly lowering expectations to the point where he’d probably justify a bottom-half finish if it ever came to that. It won’t come to that but that is his mindset.
 
He feels he’s entitled to this job, regardless of whether he‘s successful or not. He’s been spoilt, having all that money spent for him and he’s talking like he’s still at Cardiff City, taking them to relegation: “Need to get a result”. He’s constantly lowering expectations to the point where he’d probably justify a bottom-half finish if it ever came to that. It won’t come to that but that is his mindset.
Hogwash.
 
What we need more than anything is someone with the tact and gravitas to be able to gain the Glazers’ trust and, having done so, tell them a few home truths. Scaring them by shouting certainly won’t help, but a yes man would be a disaster.

I think this poster is spot on with this.
 
Polls like this shd just be confined to Man Utd fans. Why shd anybody else have a say on who shd manage the club?
 
That is more like it, please be true.
And if he manages to fluke a few points from those games? We're further delaying the inevitable and essentially writing off the season. Pretty much everyone on the planet can see he's painfully out of his depth - except for the board and some Pie in the Sky type United fans.
 
What’s an upturn? Not leaving each and every match? Any thing from now is a false dawn

And if he manages to fluke a few points from those games? We're further delaying the inevitable and essentially writing off the season. Pretty much everyone on the planet can see he's painfully out of his depth - except for the board and some Pie in the Sky type United fans.

Pretty confident we wont win more than a game out of them 3 and will lose to City if they turn up, which should get him sacked. However, a good loss to Spurs and he might be sacked come next week.
 
Pretty confident we wont win more than a game out of them 3 and will lose to City if they turn up, which should get him sacked. However, a good loss to Spurs and he might be sacked come next week.

Doubt there's a chance they sack him after Spurs (unless they already have a caretaker in place) with a game coming up on Tuesday. I think we're stuck with him until the international break and even longer if he just gets one win in the three upcoming games.
 
Pretty confident we wont win more than a game out of them 3 and will lose to City if they turn up, which should get him sacked. However, a good loss to Spurs and he might be sacked come next week.
This is Teflon Ole we're talking about here though. Somehow the cruel footballing gods keep deciding to spare him from his demise and conjure up some plucky results for him out of nothing, as has happened in the past. I just hate that our fickle and deluded board would see that as dignifying their decision to keep him on.
 
Pretty confident we wont win more than a game out of them 3 and will lose to City if they turn up, which should get him sacked. However, a good loss to Spurs and he might be sacked come next week.
Sounds like you want us to lose? You a united fan or just a joker?
 
Given the recent press reports his continuing tenure was backed by SIr Alex, Woodward and Arnold, the later 2 being former bankers. I think they have looked at the cost of paying off Ole, and his coaching staff plus Fletcher and considered thast it would be cheaper to keep him. Cannot see any manager coming in and keeping the present coaching staff plus a Technical Director who to be fair has little or no experience.
 
This is Teflon Ole we're talking about here though. Somehow the cruel footballing gods keep deciding to spare him from his demise and conjure up some plucky results for him out of nothing, as has happened in the past. I just hate that our fickle and deluded board would see that as dignifying their decision to keep him on.

While true, we never have lost 5-0 against Liverpool. Coming back from this is another story. The players also know he is close to getting sacked, so down tooling for a game or two should do the trick. Not like they bothered much this season anyway. But then again, when Ole is managing you, they arent winning anything, even with 200%.
 
While true, we never have lost 5-0 against Liverpool. Coming back from this is another story. The players also know he is close to getting sacked, so down tooling for a game or two should do the trick. Not like they bothered much this season anyway. But then again, when Ole is managing you, they arent winning anything, even with 200%.

Up until last season we'd never lost 6-1 to (lads its) Spurs. Yet Ole managed to see out the rest of the season. We also embarrassingly bottled a Europa league final (which we were only in after going out of the champions league group state) to a midtable Spanish side. Yet here he still is.

He's "come back" numerous times only for us to prolong our purgatory of mediocrity.
 
It seems like the club are giving him a chance to prove he can turn it around.

How long that'll last? I suspect he needs a strong next 3 matches. Any more heavy results and more importantly fan disappointment I can't see him lasting.
 
Polls like this shd just be confined to Man Utd fans. Why shd anybody else have a say on who shd manage the club?
I fully expect the oppo fans, trolls and a handful of Ole fanatics have voted to give him more time, which says it all really.

It would be interesting to see who voted for what.
 
Run the numbers is the part that gets me. Yeah, they ran from Clough in the late 70s because of his combative nature, but the cost?

How much have the Gaziers taken out of the club?
Yeah me too :lol:

I mean you spent half a billion supporting a manager who won nothing. And NOW you're worry about the cost of replacing him?
 
It seems like the club are giving him a chance to prove he can turn it around.
We can have another 50 turnarounds and he'd never be good enough for the job. It's time for the board to see the painfully obvious.
 
The absolute worst decision the club can take is to continue with a incompetent manager like Solskjaer.

Right now his presence hinders any form of necessary changes because of his unhealthy relationship with Woodward and the owners. The long term damages with keeping him and accept mediocrity could cost us more then just bad results.

The majority of us supporters has lost faith in everything he does, the toxicity will continue until his gone and that will never help us moving forward.The media is smelling blood, every bad result will start speculations about his and the clubs future. It will be almost impossible for him to keep focus and canalize his and the squads energy in the right direction.

We have several players wanting to leave the club. Pogba and Lingard is on outgoing contracts. Cavani is on his way out. Every draw and loss will start speculations about their future.

Our only way to stop this down going spiral is to immediately change manager and shift focus how to in a best possible way move forward.

Ten Haag is a very exiting prospect as an upcoming successful manager. Ajax looking great with him at the wheel. But there are serious concerns about how much of the success is up to him or how much is because he manage a well organized club with a great academy and excellent executives. In the negative column is his lack of experience outside the Netherlands, never managed a club in one of the big leagues. Going from Ajax to United is very huge step.

As it stands Anthony Conte is our best option by a country mile. Proven CV with 3 giant clubs and a serial winner. Not to mention his good work with Atalanta. Has the courage and balls to challenge mediocrity, exactly what’s needed in our club. His tactical knowledge is top notch and he has experience winning the PL. Apart from his famous temper that works both with and against him he’s the perfect choice for a club in our position.

United can’t continue with a incompetent manager any longer. Our competitors is to good for that. Another lost season would be devastating.
This post went unnoticed but it's a fantastic take on our dire situation, bravo!
 
We can have another 50 turnarounds and he'd never be good enough for the job. It's time for the board to see the painfully obvious.
it is a bit worrying but i’d imagine out of respect for who he is they’re gifting him 1 last opportunity.

i’d imagine the next 3 games are crucial. Think he’s out after city personally, gives them time to get some candidates together in the mean time.
 
If we don’t replace Ole soon then it’s fair to say we are going to be going round in circles for a long time. I’ve been saying it for years that we are the new Arsenal, top 4 and good cup round runs and maybe win one to keep us the fans happy. Ole can give the owners this with the backing he’s getting just on individual brilliance by the players just like it’s been. If he survives the City game then I feel this theory is true. Ole is a yes man and that’s what the club wants!
 
it is a bit worrying but i’d imagine out of respect for who he is they’re gifting him 1 last opportunity.

i’d imagine the next 3 games are crucial. Think he’s out after city personally, gives them time to get some candidates together in the mean time.
I think this whole 'last chance' thing is just a front tbh. Think he's gone already, just someone in the club realised it would be easier for the new manager to come in after the intl break with the easier fixture run (other than the Chelsea game). Wouldn't be surprised if we're in negotiations with other managers right now, preparing. Even our board isn't that incompetent. I certainly don't buy the can't afford to sign another manager 'bollocks' that's been spouted around. We miss out on UCL football is a far worse outcome than anything else and I don't see out current owners accepting that with the investment of the last transfer window.
 
it is a bit worrying but i’d imagine out of respect for who he is they’re gifting him 1 last opportunity.

i’d imagine the next 3 games are crucial. Think he’s out after city personally, gives them time to get some candidates together in the mean time.

All that's left to hope for is that the next three matches actually won't be so crucial, as it would be terrible if he keeps his job because he sneaks a couple of result. Decisions such as hiring and firing managers shouldn't be made based on a small sample of matches. And the big samples we've had for years are enough to decide it's time to let go.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure our board understands enough to look beyond "he took us from third to second, he must have done a brilliant job"/
 
I don’t understand this point. He’s literally the same man. A different job doesn’t make him a different person.
Because people don't have an issue with the person. They have an issue with him as a manager. You think it should matter one jot if he was building houses in Africa in his spare time? That's why bringing in his time here as a player makes no sense. No one wanted him out then, they want him gone now.
 
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