Ole Sack Watch
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He says in the same article we want Rodgers who’d cost 16m to get from Leicester. It’s more fecking bollocks. I swear every journalist across the land has written about 8 articles about us in the last 48 hours alone.
Rodgers will be Yes Man. Conte won't. It's simple really.
Yes. The fact Conte falls out with everyone he works with is a negative. Oddly enough it’d be a negative in any fecking job. I’m not sure that’s the critique you think it is.
My biggest worry knowing the clowns running the club is he somehow flukes wins in these next 3 games and the board think everything’s rosy again and completely change their mind on sacking him.
Now, I might be imaginging this, but it looks like the 'No - give him more time' camp has slightly increased over the last 24 hours or so.
How did that happen exactly?
How did that happen exactly?
Conte expensive but a £100 Ronaldo shirt is a great deal. feck the Glazers and anyone associated with this club that supports them.
That depends if you think are board are competent. If they're worried they'll out with someone with high standards maybe they're the problem.
It has to be oppo fans signing up and voting on a WUM. No proper Utd fan in their right mind could seriously suggest giving him more time at this point.
Yeah but we don't want the guy who won the thing. He's too demanding
Conte does not make demands whimsically. He wins and demands, and vice versa. The fact that he is a non conformist and fiercely argumentative does not sit well with most.
They hired Mourinho and he had very high standards. Conte quite clearly isn’t the profile we should be looking for. We may have to get him in but I understand the apprehension. 60% of this fecking forum said they didn’t want him yet now it’s a disgrace, a laughing stock and embarrassing that we haven’t rushed in and got him.
Yes but the reason Mourinho had a meltdown here is because the board wouldn't sign the players he wanted in his 3rd season so he threw his toys out. Now we're worried that could happen again which makes me think the board are already planning on not fully backing the next manager and want someone happy to go with it,
IIRC Conte fell out with Chelsea because he wanted Lukaku. Sure enough, a few years later they end up signing him (after Conte improved him massively according to player and pundits alike) and it's a great signing.
Some people confuse being a demanding winner with a willingness to be a yes man. Conte left Inter after they lost their two best players and also turned down the Spurs job. All because he knows what he wants to achieve success.
Some people confuse being a demanding winner with a willingness to be a yes man. Conte left Inter after they lost their two best players and also turned down the Spurs job. All because he knows what he wants to achieve success.
Imagine actually leaking that you're afraid that someone is going to call you out for your bullshit. Our board needs to fire Ole and then as a whole immediately quit their job. I don't care who is a member of it. They're all pathetic.
Didn't Spurs end talks with Conte because he wanted to bring his entire coaching staff? Something he'd want to do with us too I imagine.
These recent reports are so typical of how our club is being run, writing off Antonio Conte, simply because he isn't a 'yes man' and would be a 'pricey' acquisition is pathetic but also a clear demonstration of our incompetence. If we appoint Brendon Rodgers, a manager who couldn't even take our main rival to the level they aspired to be at, my anger would be indescribable and my disappointment immeasurable.
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Two things. One - Mourinho was backed. Extensively. We spent fortunes. Anyone who thinks otherwise is in cuckoo land. The fact he didn’t rate either of the 2 CBs he paid 60m to bring in is on him. Two - this entire forum has been calling for a model where the club make signings. A structure that isn’t dependent on one man. They’ve done that - yes the manager is part of the process but he isn’t the process. Conte wants total control. Again, I totally understand why they’d be reluctant to give him that.
Hopefully he'd want to do that.
Well, either way he made demands, they said no, he said bye.
Him bringing his coaching staff would be a breath of much needed professionalism and experience football-wise at this company masquerading as a football club.
I imagine the likes of Arnold, Murtough and Fletcher are probably shitting themselves at the prospect of working with Conte. Much better to hang on to their Norwegian teddy bear at all costs.
And that sounds harsh on Fletcher who I think has got potential in his role - always seems very smart and switched on when I hear him speak - but it's a big ask of him so early on in this new career of his. It's shit though that we haven't got a strong enough structure/personalities to feel that we could cope with a demanding manager.
And that sounds harsh on Fletcher who I think has got potential in his role - always seems very smart and switched on when I hear him speak - but it's a big ask of him so early on in this new career of his. It's shit though that we haven't got a strong enough structure/personalities to feel that we could cope with a demanding manager.
We can only hope.
In other words, he's too competent at his job.
Incompetent board needs incompetent manager to not show them up.
Bunch of spineless idiots.
Run the numbers is the part that gets me. Yeah, they ran from Clough in the late 70s because of his combative nature, but the cost?
How much have the Gaziers taken out of the club?
This is my worry too
Well, the club prefers a serial bottler then a serial winner. The latter one is not a yes man and is combative…but we prefer the yes man and the one who crumbles under pressure. The stat of this club.
It is expansive to pay for Conte. But the money fan puts in the club (their own money unlike the owners) is not expansive.
Match going fan should revolt. That’s the only way we will obtain something.
It is expansive to pay for Conte. But the money fan puts in the club (their own money unlike the owners) is not expansive.
Match going fan should revolt. That’s the only way we will obtain something.
I imagine there are a few more like me that stayed away from the forum entirely for most of the week due to expecting it to be a mostly negative vibe (understandably). But returning to the forum as the weekend and the next game draws closer.
Like I posted in here earlier I still believe he can turn this around, and I don't like any of the current managers that are available, so I'd rather he gets the season (or earlier if results carry on like the last matches). It's not such a toxic mood around the squad that we have to have a caretaker, so if we are to sack the manager I'd rather we do it when we can get in a replacement we think can do a good job in the long term.
So then if we don't strongly challenge in either PL or CL this season, then convince the best possible candidate to leave his team in the off-season.
God forbid we get a combative manager.
How bad are things for Ole...
Watching Nuno (his competition this weekend) empathizing with the pressure Ole's under says it allllllllllllll
Spurs knows there's blood in the water surrounding Ole and all the players at Manchester Divided.
Watching Nuno (his competition this weekend) empathizing with the pressure Ole's under says it allllllllllllll
Spurs knows there's blood in the water surrounding Ole and all the players at Manchester Divided.
Yeah this was my point in the ‘Would the Glazers’ be too afraid to hire you Fergie’ thread.
They’re a very odd board, not really suited to football at all.
They’re scared of hiring a winner basically.
Apparently not
Okay, fair enough.
I think he should have been sacked after the final whistle last Sunday. That he remains in his position to this day is a mystery to me.
We want someone familiar with the premier league, but preferably hasn’t won it recently.
Different take on Conte:
Angry manger leaves his players behind if his every demand isn't met.
Angry manger leaves his players behind if his every demand isn't met.
That’s not a different take and it’s been said 500 times over the past few days.
Your SAF and Ole story and historic parallels, now that was unique (and hilarious).
Brendan freakin Rogers is now the top choice to replace Ole. He wasn't good enough for Liverpool so we should take him. What is wrong with this board ? If he's the choice, then I'd rather watch the ship sink with Ole.
This is unbelievable. This youth and playing the UTD way is BS to get a yes man.
This is unbelievable. This youth and playing the UTD way is BS to get a yes man.
Exactly! Isn't there a certain Dutch international who cost £40m yet is sat on the bench practically every week? It worries me that they seem to be after someone who, no matter how capable, won't rock the boat.
Yeah how dare somebody have standards
Honestly, Conte has been quite reasonable with his demands. He wants to compete. In order to compete he needs his players. He had no problem working at Inter, Juve and Chelsea with limited resources. But when he performs up to expectations and even above, he expects the board to keep up. I think our incompetent manager is just too afraid of a person with a winning mentality. He'd threaten the job of the mates at the club such as Carrick, Fletcher, McKenna, etc. But ironically the Glazers would make more money and spend less. These idiots just spent 500 million to make us get a top 4 finish when with a similar amount of money Conte can make a dominant team that would make more money for the Glazers. But I've always said - Glazers are absolutely incompetent businessmen. In contrast to FSG who are not football men either, but are competent businessmen. As long as these leeches are in charge of the club, United is going nowhere.
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