Pogba was suspended. Smalling, Herrera and Lukaku left. Young left in next winter/newyear window for Inter. Dalot, Pereira, Bailly, Chong were not really integral of the team under Ole. That's not counting unuawd sub for the game like Rojo, Romero, Garner, Angel Gomez.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer criticises some players from time in charge at Old Trafford
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I reiterate that any dirty washing aired in that interview has been hung on the line in full public view and flapping about merrily in the breeze for a number of years.
I’m not a Utd supporter and my independent take is that Oli was just being honest about things that really weren’t a secret. He was just openly saying a few things that he wouldn’t have said when employed by Utd because that wouldn’t have helped the situation at the time.
More pointedly, he was saying that TH has a lot to deal with, that it’s a tough job and, obviously from that the suggestion was that it’ll take time to make the cultural and footballing ethos changes that are needed.
If you really didn’t know full well that there was pronounced disharmony in the dressing room when Oli was in charge then, fair do’s, if it’s surprised you and you’re thinking that it’ll be on everyone’s lips but the bottom is that it won’t cause uproar because it wasn’t news to anyone . . other than yourself and maybe some folk who’ve been stranded on a desert island for a good while ;-)
Thing is,…….they know that the club can’t (and won’t) afford to get rid of players no matter how rotten. They simply get rid of the manger as it’s the cheapest option, Pep and Arteta have booted their players causing issues and the players fall into line as they know that the manager is backed, this lot……..we’ll do I really need to say anything.
Honestly why blame the glazers? Why? They invest mint, hiw is true Faulf?
Is this Welsh?
Laughable.
And not too far off LvG
If you read this entire interview Ole isn’t backing the new manager like people claim he’s protecting himself. He’s all about self preservation.
He blames everything on the players and clearly doesn’t understand their point of view despite being one in the past.
Ole is one of the worst managers I’ve ever seen, and he doesn’t understand why players wanted out.There was one part where he criticised players for wanting to play and said they should prove him wrong when theygot the chance…Ole was known for never rotating and with that being thecase how can a player come on and impress.
He blames everything on the players and clearly doesn’t understand their point of view despite being one in the past.
Ole is one of the worst managers I’ve ever seen, and he doesn’t understand why players wanted out.There was one part where he criticised players for wanting to play and said they should prove him wrong when theygot the chance…Ole was known for never rotating and with that being thecase how can a player come on and impress.
mate take it from me no one listens to a word you say about Ole and likely anything else for that matter after the relentless hyperbolic nonsense you spout about him. He's not a good manager, get over it.
btw try reading the interview before you post, will make you look less ridiculous
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Ole man yells at cloud
Person rejecting the capitancy must be Rashford
Same subject was raised by previous managers like Mourinho and LvG, something is rotten inside the club.
it's going to be ETH soon.
This is very true. You look at other top teams and yes they have players on super high wages but the thing is, they've actually earned those wages over the course of their career.
For example Bayern and Madrid both have players on higher wages than any of ours but it's because those players are Kane and someone like Modric or Kroos.
Barca are perhaps the closest to Man Utd in how they used to give average players huge wages and look how that blew up eventually.
Well if he offered Rashford the captaincy, then that is further proof of Ole's questionable judgment.
Pogba makes the most sense since he had it before and likely planned on leaving, so he didn't want to take it again.
It’s not the same thing really as Ole promises things to players (like game time) and then never delivered on those promises. He’s just as toxic as anyone else at the club but because he scored in 99 and looks like a nice guy no one says anything.
He’s a coward. He waited until after he was no longer manager to throw the players he signed under the bus. At least the other managers were direct with players.
It’s like when you have an immature boss at work. They feck everything up, create cliques, and are too immature to see what they’ve created.
Ole isn’t the only problem but overall he’s a man child.
I chuckled at the bit where he said our scouts identified Sancho as the top target for the right wing, shortly followed by "but he prefers to play on the left".
We want names, Ole. Otherwise, feck off and take your big share of the blame for creating most of the current mess at the club.
Why are you pretending you speak for everyone
I don’t need to read It. Like you said he’s crap. What else is there to take from him. It’s like being interested in what Harry Maguire has to say.
It’s people on here spouting nonsense like this guy had a clue.
Why are you pretending you speak for everyone
I don’t need to read It. Like you said he’s crap. What else is there to take from him. It’s like being interested in what Harry Maguire has to say.
It’s people on here spouting nonsense like this guy had a clue.
I don’t need to canvas opinion, I’ve been reading replies to your posts for years.. the guy has a 30 year career with nothing but respect and integrity from the game. Gave it his best shot but failed.
And you are here still calling him a bum and a loser… it’s fecking pathetic and to be honest, I’m sick of reading it. Have a bit more self-respect you sound like he Russell Branded your teenage daughter or something. He’s just a failed football manager mate.
Well thank you for the support.
The fact of the matter is he should have never got the job in the first place. Yet people rally around him like he’s there mate. It’s the same apologist as to why he got 3 years. Forget Russell Brand. Maybe if Greenwood had Ole’s charm he would be still playing for us right now as I’m sure he would have had the supporters full backing.
The cult of OGS.
Yes, he was a great player for us but so what?
He was a pretty crap manager.I still have to pinch myself that he held the reigns for almost three years.....THREE years!
There were times it was obvious he should go but he didn't. If he really was a United man through and through he should have resigned but he didn't. His ego prevented him from doing it.
#JusticeForOle
On a more serious note: where does Bruno come into the 3 major signings rule?
I always found it weird that we never addressed the midfield under Ole (unless you count Donny). It would seem that at least Bellingham and Rice was on his priority list. In any case, the 3 major signings per summer rule is pretty dumb. Especially if players like Dan James (12 mill) count.
I think Ole is a genuine guy who loves Man Utd, I think the interview is honest and was lead by the interviewer so omissions of Ole's own failings should not be overly focused on I am sure if asked he would admit he got things wrong, as ever with journalism of the last 20 years it is the reporters shaping the news not the news shaping itself.... would be more interested to read a full expose in a AB
I think we also should recognise the themes which have been reiterated by manager after manager, until we improve the clubs structure and culture then it will not matter, ETH is trying to do that, maybe SAF was strong enough to over ride aspects of it
I think we also should recognise the themes which have been reiterated by manager after manager, until we improve the clubs structure and culture then it will not matter, ETH is trying to do that, maybe SAF was strong enough to over ride aspects of it
I'd probably say one who refused to train to force a more would have been Romero, as Everton were after him.
I think Ole is cheekily doing some revisionism there. Especially in regards to Haaland and Bellingham. We were linked with them but they rejected us. I remember ole was ridiculed a bit for Halaand because he couldn’t even convince an ex player to join him. Bellingham was just viewed as the state of our club.
I actually respect that. Without knowing that there's ulterior cnutish move.
I'd rather they owned up and say they're not up to it.
Our owner was very hands off.
They never tell ole anything they even let him pick his own crew
Feck me. If ever there was a timely reminder of why the squad is full of dross and why thing will change until the Glazers are gone, this is it.
Just shows how much of a lightweight Ole was. He identifies player like Haaland and Caiceido and cant convince the people around him that we should spend a relatively small amount on them.
On the other hand, after all the games Sancho had as RW at Dortmund, you would expect him to cover whatever position he was requested without complaining. Also, did Sancho sign for United with the hope of seeing Rashford being benched? I mean, if Sancho wanted to play LW, why did he sign for United at all.
I don't think we are talking about taking the captaincy permanently here, but rather carrying it in single games (eg. in the league cup) where we saw some rotation under Ole. Even Tuanzebe carried the band one game. Maguire's captaincy was never challenged under Ole and it could be anyone turning it down for single games - or, maybe it's possible to find out by checking who carried the band when Maguire didn't play, and who you would expect to carry it, but never did.
Two years and £400m on and we're no better off. Player recruitment is key.
Spot on.
The bit where he said
"Some weren't as good as their own perception of themselves,"
Is the definition of Irony!
Oh come on, you believe that he had some genius eye for talent? Who knows what sort of shite players he also recommended? He won't share those would he?
He's just trying to make himself look good by name dropping the most attractive players of the day. It's his version of the almost-played-for-Arsene-Wenger XI.
Conviniently names some of the best players of today.
We do know he brought in 16 players and only Bruno has been an unmitigated success.
We dont know though how much control he had. I do believe though, given his Molde connection, he would have told the club to sign Haarland.
We chased the guy for 2 seasons and we spent 70m. Its amazing how no one bothered to check if the guy is happy to play as RW for the rest of his career. On the other hand we had a manager who can't remember all his signings, a man who kept hoarding players and promising everything to everyone with the football structure in place allowing him to do so. Sancho doesn't come across as a smart lad either. Twitter gate is clear testament to that.
Strong hint to Ashley Young, he had worn the armband and was looking to leave
However, his frustration did get the better of him on one occasion. According to the Sun, mid-way through the 2019/20 captain Young had a furious verbal exchange with Solskjaer after storming down off the training pitch at Carrington and heading into the gym to work by himself.
Just a day prior, the pair had held talks over Young's future where the player is believed to have made crystal clear he wanted out to join Serie A titans Inter Milan. His outburst did not come without consequences, but ultimately got the ex-England international exactly what he wanted.
Young, who was captain at the time, was exiled from the squad for games against Norwich and Wolves before being sold just days later. United managed to recoup a meagre £1.3million for his services.
Which manager other than Pep ever gets more than 3 big signings a window?