Nope, it's down to those, surely. By that time, you'd think Mata was too obviously a spare part to be considered though. And I have a hard time envisaging that Matic would have shied from the task. At that time, he was still pretty much a regular too. Which I guess leaves Pogba and De Gea as the most plausible candidates.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer criticises some players from time in charge at Old Trafford
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Nope, it's down to those, surely. By that time, you'd think Mata was too obviously a spare part to be considered though. And I have a hard time envisaging that Matic would have shied from the task. At that time, he was still pretty much a regular too. Which I guess leaves Pogba and De Gea as the most plausible candidates.
He woke up and chose to do this interview and stick the knives in on the day we play our first CL game in 18 months. Very distasteful.
Racist, sexist, child abuser and now machiavellian schemer. Ole's reign of terror knows no bounds.
I find this one strange. Im sure DDG would have taken it. Perhaps Ole tried to give it to Rashford, who may have felt that he wasn't ready.
You realise Ole hasn't actually published the article himself? Nothing to do with him what time it's released.
I agree. Timing not great. There are enough off field stories right now.
OP knows how to push the buttons for humiliation fetish.
He says he considers Maguire and Bruno his two biggest successes in the transfer market. He justified it by arguing that they both had a positive immediate impact on the side. So, there's that.
As for the the players who felt hard done by the club or whatever, he did mention one of them. He said that McT didn't get a loan move and he wasn't happy with his game time. Two minutes later, he described him as a United player through and through. It's not clear if what he says is the same with what the fans (want to) think.
In fact there's a lot of back and forth. Some players didn't train properly, some didn't want to be held accountable and others were bad apples and a few lines below... the group are good pros who mean well. Or that life was peachy at the end of 21-22 season, untill it wasn't a few months later. Or we paid a lot of attention to tactics, but we signed Ronaldo because it "felt" right and Sancho because he looked like a "United player". A clarification would have been good.
There's one thing i found interesting. He was asked if he has any grievances about the way he was treated and he said that a lot of things didn't go as planned in the end, but he knew the remit for the role when he signed on the dotted line. I'm saying this because he quickly abandoned any notion of intensity and high pressing. I think there's a lot of pressure to qualify for the CL from the higher ups. Which leaves little room for manoeuvring and kind of forces the manager to build around what he has inherited. That's where the money goes and when the time to push for great things comes, the wheels come off and the players are considered deadwood. Basically, at United you are not allowed to do an Arteta. He also emphasized that you're basically not given enough time to do what Brighton do which is to buy young talent and allow them to bed in.
But then again, are the Glazers good for United? They are honest and descent people.
He also planted a microphone in the United dressing room on his last day. To this date, it is the primary source of all the leaks. Ole is a silent assassin after all.
I was thinking either De Gea or Matic? Would've been too early for Rashford and I doubt he would have offered it to Pogba.
I'm curious who it was that refused to train in order to force a move.
I may be mistaken, but i recall Andy Mitten saying on the Talk of the Devils podcast a few months back that he had been talking with Ole. I think Andy said he had been interviewing Ole when he was driving, which is what is said in the first line of the interview.
He may though have done the interview in parts.
He may though have done the interview in parts.
Quite mild really, I’d imagine he could have stuck the knife in a lot more if he wanted too and he wouldn’t have been in control of when this was released.
The comments about Sancho not wanting to play RW are just odd, why did that transfer go ahead. Also don’t understand the comments about Caceido, you need players for the future as well as for the here and now all the time. The club is just such a disaster and only hope of it ending is if the Glazers sell.
The comments about Sancho not wanting to play RW are just odd, why did that transfer go ahead. Also don’t understand the comments about Caceido, you need players for the future as well as for the here and now all the time. The club is just such a disaster and only hope of it ending is if the Glazers sell.
Ashley Young, Smalling and Lukaku had all been rumoured to do this.
And if he isn’t? If it was Dalot he should be fecked off too. It probably wasn’t but it’s every bit as arbitrary.
Was hoping for more actually. He should have just named the cnuts.
The part about them turning down the captaincy surprised me.
Is he wrong about this one though?
He managed Pogba, Lingard, Ronaldo, Greenwood, Lukaku
Any manager would lose few hairs after this.
Culture is top down.
Im also more interested in who refused to train to force a move, turning down the captaincy is less damming. Some may feel it's to much of a burden.
refusing to train though wtf, Ole clearly didn't have the presence and discipline to avoid such toxicity in the camp. ETH wont take that nonsense, hes already proven that, getting rid of Ronaldo and now Sancho.. I hope we give Him time to unravel the mess Ole left.
refusing to train though wtf, Ole clearly didn't have the presence and discipline to avoid such toxicity in the camp. ETH wont take that nonsense, hes already proven that, getting rid of Ronaldo and now Sancho.. I hope we give Him time to unravel the mess Ole left.
He didn't really say anything important in that BBC summary. Looks like a pointless interview, like most of his press conferences and post match interviews when he was our manager anyway.
"Some weren't as good as their own perception of themselves,"
One player instantly springs to mind
One player instantly springs to mind
I meant Ole
Spot the feck on.
We were supposed to be in for him tbf, I know because I actually watched some Ecuador game he was playing in to watch him
I sincerely don't think you realize that was a joke.
Do you genuinely think the interview was conducted, transcribed, written, edited and published today, all before 11 a.m.?
Exactly. He is obviously a United fan, should know better than this.
Wouldn't really make sense for De Gea to have turned down the captaincy.
He was already the Vice-Captain at that point and was talking openly about wanting to be the captain.
Then Maguire was selected as permanent captain ahead of him, right after a game against Newcastle in which De Gea's post-game interview was rather critical, saying things were the worst they'd been since he'd been at the club. There were rumours at that point that the manager hadn't appreciated those comments, whether that was a factor in him being passed over or not.
He was already the Vice-Captain at that point and was talking openly about wanting to be the captain.
Then Maguire was selected as permanent captain ahead of him, right after a game against Newcastle in which De Gea's post-game interview was rather critical, saying things were the worst they'd been since he'd been at the club. There were rumours at that point that the manager hadn't appreciated those comments, whether that was a factor in him being passed over or not.
I don't think Ole was suggesting he identified Caicedo or pushed for his signing, it was more of a broader conversation about players we missed out on and the reasons why and in the case of Caicedo it was because we were looking for a more experienced option at the time. Contrary to the notion that Brighton discovered Caicedo he was actually being watched by a number of clubs and we are not alone in missing out, we did get an early heads up from Valencia but that is about it.
Haaland is the one player that did come from an Ole recomendation. It has been mentioned that when he had him at Molde he advised United to make a move and then it is known that he wanted him once he became manager but by that point he was already at Salzburg and then of course we missed out when he moved on to Dortmund.
I get it United Has the most fans therefore get the most clicks, but it’s on a daily basis right now, no idea why ETH is being hounded so bad. He’s not very personable but he doesn’t deserve the shit he’s getting.
I sincerely don't think you realise my response was sarcastic. Every post from @Samid is a so-called 'joke'. Thing is, jokes are supposed to be funny
Henderson and Cavani I’d say are a shoe in for this one.
Oh we did, from offering permanently injured players new contracts, to there being zero consequences to dickhead behaviour such as launching your brand on the eve of a derby. The players have got managers sacked and have run the club from the bottom up since Fergie left.No we didn't
I actually wondered if it was him preparing to come back into management somewhere. Get his version of events out and close the United chapter for good.
Thought he won the culture reset trophy during his time.
I know but it comes from different sources now, unhappy players usually go into survival mode. Mitten gets his news straight from Murtough, but do you remember when Paul Scholes was super privy to a bunch of stuff? It was almost like he had this psychic ability to know something was going to happen at United with the players before it happened. Then as soon as Lingard left he didn't have any more insights and that was the end of his BT punditry stint.
Definitely those two and going back further Lukaku was a huge problem, effectively downed tools and forced his way out because he didn't like the way he was used in Ole's first few games.
I think and this is my opinion, not trying to provoke shit. You pay average to good players extortionate wages. That’s the issue, when u pay average players a wage they won’t get else where, there is no reason they would play for you. I can say Bruno, Shaw, are the only players who really care about United. You signed players like Casemiro and Varane when they were clearly crocked, yeah they will give their all but they are both done. De Gea was the last player who IMO cared but u replaced him,