Well this is what we need but we’ll probably sack the manager and end up in the same 2 year cycle again instead of sucking it up, finishing 9th and clearing out all the shite.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer criticises some players from time in charge at Old Trafford
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You can’t really account for players deciding to be absolute pricks as well. Most of our Sancho issues started when someone promised him he’d play every week, so of course he’s going to pick a position he prefers.
There is no universe where he is good as manager, waster on so many levels
He came out to say this at the correct moment. If he says his when we're up and flying the fans would have shat on him.
Never gonna work without massive massive purge in one go, they are all tainted, adding 2-4 players each summer wont work, Borg cnuts squad already has them way before next summer.
Club & most importantly fanbase need to accept the step back though. This place was full of ‘optimists’ that wanted Kane simply cause his 30 goals would cure all & make us title challengers in spite of the clear frailties elsewhere in the squad.
The clear out needs to be severe, this fanbase won’t have it though. I’ve stopped listening to United pods due to the nonsense, the amount of so called professionals that were peddling the Kane makes us challengers nonsense highlighted how clueless most people are on this situation.
Yep, totally agree. I couldn’t see where the optimism was coming from over the summer myself, coming into the FA cup final we hadn’t played well since we beat Barcelona and there was some pretty alarming red flags on display for the rest of the season.
Personally I’m mentally prepared for a shocking season and hopefully a cultural reset next summer but I think a lot of people are only just coming around to the fact we won’t challenge for the league and we have bigger issues outside of not signing Kane.
LVG, Jose, Ole, even ETH
“players are not putting in the required Work to-get United to the top of the game again. Many of them aren’t good enough”.
Some United fans , “yeh well those managers were crap so it doesn’t matter what they say”…
Being a good or bad manager does not mean you don’t spot players who are not good enough and making mugs of the fans defending them.
Oh yeah, we'll defo just sack ETH and repeat the cycle.
Aye, it's a shambles.
No, she was presenting factually incorrect information as correct. She didn't give anything resembling an opinion until the last paragraph or two. And it's not based on the information presented to us at all, she's taken one line from Solksjaer's interview and come up with all that, most of which is factually incorrect but will be lapped up by the her eRed followers who will RT anything negative related to the club.
The amount of hate Ole gets on here is laughable. Didn't we go on our longest unbeaten run with him in charge post Sir Alex? We also scored the most goals too. The problem ultimately with Ole was the final hurdle, simply couldn't win a final.
You can complain about his transfers, not one Manager here has made good transfers. Not one. Its a club failure, the Managers shouldn't be dictating our transfers. It just puts unnecessary pressure on the Manager.
You can complain about his transfers, not one Manager here has made good transfers. Not one. Its a club failure, the Managers shouldn't be dictating our transfers. It just puts unnecessary pressure on the Manager.
Ole has himself to blame for rubber-stamping the Ronaldo deal when it didn't quite feel right and when he knew the club actually needed a centre mid. I enjoyed his time with us, it was a high-wire act and ultimately like on Total Wipeout there were a couple of wobbles that led to him not finishing the course. He was never going finish the course, but I enjoyed watching the team for a large part of his time with us as manager.
Beginning to think we're not getting rid of players en masse because we can't afford to bring in proper replacements en masse.
So everything has to be done piece by piece. Unfortunately the people in charge don't have the balls to follow through once the pressure gets to the club. The worst thing is, they don't have a clue what to do other than giving the manager what they want, up until they bottle that due to public pressure and opinion. And so, the cycle goes on.
Such a great manager, surprised he hasn’t been snapped up somewhere in Europe.
Please note, this is sarcasm and for him to come out with this now just shows how pathetic he is.
He wasn’t even a great player just a good sub who scored goals and is known for scoring a famous winner, I’m shocked as to how much this man is regarded as a hero at this club, Teddy Sheringham scored the most important goal in that match.
Please note, this is sarcasm and for him to come out with this now just shows how pathetic he is.
He wasn’t even a great player just a good sub who scored goals and is known for scoring a famous winner, I’m shocked as to how much this man is regarded as a hero at this club, Teddy Sheringham scored the most important goal in that match.
I always have respect for him. It didn't work out in the end but that's life. Nothing he said was something that we didn't already know. What was interesting from what he said and from what all our previous manager said was the club almost never gotten them their first choice targets. I suspect it is the same for ETH too. So while on paper our managers were all supported but they always never worked out.
You don't need to go far to find them either, most are in the 2 EtH threads.
Years of stinking up the place when they can't be bothered but it's the managers fault for not being able to get them playing.
If you're not good enough then you aren't good enough, this could mean work rate, attitude, ability, or "leaks", and the club needs to get rid.
To me, it is so stupid that we didn't tell Sancho that he will be playing right wing or Sancho knows he is playing but the wages I'd something that he cannot refuse. Once he signed, he knows there is nothing United can do. He can play there if he suck then he will be drop and put into his favourite role while picking up his wages. Only thing that I see is Sancho leaving this club and his career will end up in mid tier club. Yes, Sancho can be wealthy but he is definitely a bust.
The key word is here "right wing position".
United hadn't had right winger for so long, you would expected recruitment team at least could find someone whom prefer to play on the right, don't you think?
I'm not even data analyst, a quick check shows Sancho mostly played on the left for Dortmund.
We've literally got rid of tons of first-team players since ETH came in. Do you want literally every player gone?
This summer we've gotten out De Gea, Fred, Bailly, Telles, Henderson, Williams, Tuanzebe and Elanga.
Last year it was Pereira, Garner, Cavani, Lingard, Mata, Ronaldo, Matic, Pogba and Grant.
That's 17 players ignoring youth teamers. And there were efforts to make it 20 but 3 moves failed. Plus Greenwood is out on loan.
He's literally refused management offers and he didn't choose when the article came out. FFS.
We only played one final with him. Losing that wasn't really the problem. Scoring one more penalty and saving one penalty would have given us the trophy, but would it have really changed anything the following season when it was time to step up and challenge for the league?
Well, Lukaku was let go of.
But how do we know that Solskajer really wanted several players gone instead of just being upset after the match?
Based
He can talk about him not getting player X, Y or Z but at the end of the day in the summer he signed Ronaldo, Varane and Sancho we got worse so pardon me if I don't give a damn what he didn't get.
He lucked out getting the job and when he could no longer rely on being Vibes FC both the players and he himself knew it was over for him. I don't doubt there were bad apples in the bunch but he caused a lot of unrest in squad players by not being up front about their roles and flat out playing his favourites even when they were awful. Cavani, Henderson, Bailly, Lingard, VDB all had reason to be pissed off at him and they came out and said as much. They might've handled it badly but Ole didn't manage their situations well.
He lucked out getting the job and when he could no longer rely on being Vibes FC both the players and he himself knew it was over for him. I don't doubt there were bad apples in the bunch but he caused a lot of unrest in squad players by not being up front about their roles and flat out playing his favourites even when they were awful. Cavani, Henderson, Bailly, Lingard, VDB all had reason to be pissed off at him and they came out and said as much. They might've handled it badly but Ole didn't manage their situations well.
The managers are all 100% right, but they're just as bad as the players. They're all toxic in their own right and created toxic environments. It is the player's fault but let's not pretend that the managers are angels. Look at the list of managers, 2 of them are known for having enormous egos and the other is an entitled delusional former legend that still has smoke logged up his ass by Sir Alex.
I am sick of these players but Ole is just piling on because it's the easy thing to do. He has a role in the circus if no clubs want him.
Ah yes, 4 semi finals and 1 final. As I said, couldn't take us over the finishing line. Worthy of being sacked for that reason but that's a pretty decent record all things considered. The problem ultimately was the players lost belief in him after those crucial loses and he was lumped with Ronaldo that caused all kinds of problems.
We really have no way of telling if the players lost confidence in him because we lost a final and a few semi finals.
All we know is that everything massively collapsed, and that the three big signings who were supposed to take us forward were ultimately a failure (Sancho), a player past his prime who still wanted to be the star (Ronaldo) and a very good player with a crappy injury record (Varane).
Ultimately, a lot of people rightly said that the way we played under him was not going to sustain us as a really top team. And it didn't.
And you guys are flying after finally seeing Kane. Interesting how things work
Solskjaer have always been good manager. It was players that failed. Just as they did with vanGaal, Mourinho and Rangnick.
Four semi finals isn't a few. We were always on the cusp of winning with Ole, just could never get over the line. Tactically when it mattered and the fine details came into play, Ole and his management team couldn't get us to win something. He was ultimately a failure for that reason. But he wasn't a bad Manager, there were plenty of positives with Ole albeit the final few months. It's not like it was all bad and he was shocking, things haven't suddenly improved since he left, in fact, it's got worse.
ETH got a trophy in his first season but we've not played well now since February, we've gone backwards this season too. Some perspective is needed when discussing Ole, some make out he was a terrible, championship quality Manager at best when that's clearly not true.
I genuinely think those Ole haters here are minority of the whole fanbase. They just make the loudest noise but also show they are single minded stupid.
He didn't do badly, but ultimately the question for a Manchester United manager is whether he is capable of making us PL and CL contenders eventually. He wasn't. So being good and playing fun football for a while was, in a way, a waste of time - as we spent time and money that was never going to take us where we wanted to go. And that also means that we've been restructuring the squad, again, since the summer of 2022, while being hamstrung by some of Solskjaer's deals.
I don't know what Solskjaer is as a manager and I don't particularly care. He wasn't good enough for United. That's all that matters.
Imo the problem with Ole was his balls were not big enough for the job. The moment he subbed Cavani and brought Ronaldo on in the match against Everton I knew he's gonna get sacked.
Ole-pilled
Same here, it felt like we were finally being entertained again as fans. However that second season was horrible.
i wonder what might have happened say if we had bought Declan rice instead of Ronaldo
What's worrying is that Dortmund can make him shut up, and play well on RW with a fraction of his salary.
While we... on the other hand..
That’s a rather large ‘simple’ problem.