Leaving Harry Maguire on when injured goes towards that theory. He is too trusting, sometimes you have to take decisions out of the players hands for their own welfare.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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But you sort of get it with Maguire... because he's an important player for us, and the only alternative to him not playing was Phil Jones... at which point you'd probably take a Maguire with no legs to finish the game.
Lingard however is not an important player and there were at least 10 more advantageous options he could have used instead. (and yes, one of these options is to just start the game with 10 men)
City took their foot of the gas, we didn't improve. Ole clutching at straws after another poor performance.
Trouble is he now has to play Phil Jones anyway.
You can tell when I am agitated. I miss half the letters of of words.
I am concerned about our club. Matches I actually watch in a pretty detached way as I do not expect much anymore.During the game, just as it went 0-3, the camera panned to Woodward and he was stoney-faced.
The man must be under pressure now, surely, because he knows he is going to have to sack Ole soon and I would hope the Glazers will require him to explain why he has made so many unsuccessful appointments.
Will never be as long as he keeps pulling out tractor sponsorship's.
You can tell when I am agitated. I miss half the letters of of words.
I hear you brother. It looks bad, on the field, in the squad and without any signs of investments incoming.
Conte showed this year how manager with knowledge and vision can transform team.
I remember how this summer many Caf posters said that Inter is average team. But Conte had vision from day one.
He implemented his system, knew exactly what players he needs and what he wants from them and now he is winning games and they are 1st in Italy.
Planning, vision and good coaching. In his system average players look good. Under Ole good players look like shit and then fans think that we have shit squad.
I remember how this summer many Caf posters said that Inter is average team. But Conte had vision from day one.
He implemented his system, knew exactly what players he needs and what he wants from them and now he is winning games and they are 1st in Italy.
Planning, vision and good coaching. In his system average players look good. Under Ole good players look like shit and then fans think that we have shit squad.
I guess because a lot of the big decisions like Moyes and Ole/Phelan have been made on the recommendation of the advisory board (SAF, Gill, Charlton etc).
Stop all of them having a say is my solution, SAF clearly picked Moyes and Ole and that means he's not very good at it.
The club desperately needs some fresh ideas, some fresh faces and to step back from letting the past make overly emotional or simply bad decisions.
No chance that'll happen anytime soon though, so much of the fanbase loves this deluded living in the past way of being, even if they spent decades mocking Liverpool for the same thing.
Problem with Ole's interviews after games, it is like he is managing an U-12's side. We have to learn to cope with going a goal behind? Have these players never gone a goal behind for previous teams and coped with it? These are grown men, treat them like grown men.
I'd like to think he's being nice in front of the camera and babying them in public, but in private he's at least talking to them like they're about to leave uni and not just entering big school. He speaks about our players like they're aliens being introduced to football for the first time, just seems a strange tactic.
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He said they asked the players to win the second half, and they did. So fair enough comment really. Unfortunately only by one goal but it gives us a tenth of a chance in the 2nd leg.
He said they asked the players to win the second half, and they did. So fair enough comment really. Unfortunately only by one goal but it gives us a tenth of a chance in the 2nd leg.
Like the modern trend in junior football, it's as if results (i.e. defeats and embarrassing reverses) aren't supposed to matter because the team is young. Partially, this attitude stems from Ole knowing some of our team when they were mere boys - he's too indulgent towards them, as a father might be towards his sons; 'trouble is, he expects the supporters to take on the same attitude.
Things that are good under OGS:
- No toxic atmosphere despite the results not being good enough - which is highly refreshing
- Signings range from OK to good
- Getting rid of absolute deadwood on high wages
- Improvement in exciting players such as Fred, Rashford, Martial
- Lots of chances given to academy players (Greenwood, Tuanzebe, Williams)
Unfortunately for him he works in a result-oriented business and what his team has shown is simply not good enough. Also, while the work he's doing behind closed doors might give us a solid foundation to build a succesful squad upon, I fear that he doesn't appeal to the players he will need for that succesful team he's trying to build.
- No toxic atmosphere despite the results not being good enough - which is highly refreshing
- Signings range from OK to good
- Getting rid of absolute deadwood on high wages
- Improvement in exciting players such as Fred, Rashford, Martial
- Lots of chances given to academy players (Greenwood, Tuanzebe, Williams)
Unfortunately for him he works in a result-oriented business and what his team has shown is simply not good enough. Also, while the work he's doing behind closed doors might give us a solid foundation to build a succesful squad upon, I fear that he doesn't appeal to the players he will need for that succesful team he's trying to build.
Do they all get a packet of Love Hearts after the game for competing?
That is why he is more suited to coaching young teams where the results are not paramount, it is all about producing players for the first team.
I knew he was going to say that, so I went to bed so I'd miss the momentous moment.
Lads its ok. We won the second half.
Oranges at halftime too.
The new 'we won the passing'.
Ssssh..... you'll wake some people up. And even if you wake them, they'll just call you an armchair critic and a FM fanatic. What do you know, huh? We won the second half after all, didn't we? What did you expect? A first-half early substitution with Mourinho's poster boy coming on to replace one of our very own (Lingard, Pereira) who knows all about what it means to play for United? Pfff, tactics are overrated. It's all about the culture mate and you're doing football support wrong.
Yeah I think this is a fair assessment. He's done some good work but ultimately the results haven't been good enough and there are indeed question marks over our pull in the transfer market with Solskjaer in charge if (when) we don't get CL footy next year.
Inappropriate joke
I heard Jessie had to come off at half time as he didnt have a babysitter for his sister at home
So the one thing we had going for us was our ability to raise our game against the top sides and implement our plan (i.e., sit back and counter attack), but even that has a limited use.
As we've seen against Arsenal, where we were completely dominated, and against City last night this is the problem when you have one way of playing. I know that's only two games as an example, but when you are dominated like we were in games that we thought played to our strengths, then it's very worrying to say the least.
If we haven't even got that going for us, what else is there?
As we've seen against Arsenal, where we were completely dominated, and against City last night this is the problem when you have one way of playing. I know that's only two games as an example, but when you are dominated like we were in games that we thought played to our strengths, then it's very worrying to say the least.
If we haven't even got that going for us, what else is there?
Uncalled for.
Damn right, he should make sure he has a babysitter
Dislike him on the pitch, but that’s a shit joke and you make yourself sound like a cnut.
It's not lowering the expectation. We've fell far and still need the rebuild that we needed in 2013. The first step of that process is achieving Champions League qualification so we can attract the best players. After that, with our resources, it would't be unreasonable to expect a title challenge.
I never for a second believed Ole would be the man to mount a title challenge (even if he was here for a decade), but thought he'd be a good option to get us back on track. So in that respect, I never viewed him as a long term manager - more of an extension on his caretaker role. Perhaps that's why I don't get as upset as most people on here after a poor result.
Mixing his performances with his personal life like that is out of order.
You could see at times our ability to break quickly was still causing City problems but the difference was their attackers were on their game last night so they put us to the sword. Its too one dimensional of a game plan and when it relies on your opponents having an off day then its definitely not sustainable.
That's exactly it! Personally I'd like Solskjaer to be the one to get us through the bad times and become the permanent manager as I wanted him more than a few others we got, but time will tell. We can still respectably disagree and not just whine and attack the manager for playing Lingard as if he left Ronaldo on the bench or say everything Solskjaer does is terrible in every way. There is some truth to both sides, one will prevail, even if he is not the permanent manager material I trust him not to ruin the club financially all for the glorification of his own ego for being able to "attract" top players we didn't really need.
Not sure why you thought this was funny, maybe try a bit less.
An absolute spanking at Anfield should be the final nail in the coffin. Just like Jose.
Wait...did i read this right? Ole lost Matic because he doesn't want to use him?
And as it is said couple of times; in this search for excuses Ole in brigade hugely underestimate manager's role in a team.
Manager' job is to plan roster and style. Then to implement that. If things are not going well, he needs to change something and adapt. That is called man management and that is something which separates world class managers from good managers and shit managers.
He had 6 free months last season to be ready for this season. Remember his quotes- " I have a plan"?
He had free time to evaluate squad which is something what nearly no manager doesn't have. Then this summer he should have plan better. If his plan was to play with no10 then:
1) He should have bought one if he thought that Lingard is not good enough. But lets face it, he thought that Lingard is good.
2) If he couldn't buy A target then he should have demand B target or C target( what is wrong with cheap short term fix?)
3) If he is not satisfied with his no10 options then why play with no10? Adapt ffs. Change formation.
I really don't know why i am wasting my time repeating same things over and over again.
Just pathetic.
I am all for criticising players on the pitch on performances and effort because they are paid alot of money to do their "job" and don't but to bring family and personal attacks is puerile.
It's horrible. I expect it from idiots who support other teams, but it shows just how lacking in class and disgusting so much of our fanbase has become. Toxic babies.
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