He isn't staying if we don't get CL next season.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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He isn't staying if we don't get CL next season.
Rio has been scathing diplomatically in his post match after the Arsenal game. He said we are playing without a plan and trying to give it to Martial and hoping he will do something. I posted his interview earlier here.
@Ban. so Ole as a manager then? How do you feel he is getting on?
How United have fallen when a draw with Wolves is a good result and Wolves are disappointed with the draw. We are closer to the relegation zone than we are to Liverpool (points wise). If I could see a style of play or even a plan going forward I would be happy. But Ole seems to not have a clue.
If Ole was sacked what clubs would look at him to manage them? None in any of the major leagues I would guess but he is fine to manage Man United!
We are realistic, the issue isn't about the result, it's about our style of play and having feck all of a game plan.
Once again we hadn't a clue on what to do to help score a goal. And it seems many fans are happy with the club falling astronomically quickly towards mediocrity, making excuses for ole and the lack of coaching that is clearly absent.
I have no problem losing games, but I should be able to come out with some faint hope of an improvement, but everytime I watch this team it's the same shite over and over again.
Even when Liverpool were struggling when klopp arrived, you could still see a game plan of some sorts, what can you say about this United side?
I disagree, I think he is here next season unless our form falls off a cliff and we end up nearer the bottom.
Never want to hear that condescending shit again. Be 'patient'. It's a work in 'progress'. We're doing 'cultural rebuild'.
What a fecking load of codswallop! Glazers and Ole might have these romantics and sycophants fooled but please keep it to your self. At this point, they remind me of a religious sect.
Ole shouldn't be let off any more than any other manager that we've previously had regarding the running of the club.
His lack of proven track record in football management and his lack of clear footballing direction mystifies on how he was ever appointed.
The manager of this squad needed to be ruthless in the transfer windows. Even from outside there was a min. of seven first team players that needed to be replaced and urgently moved on and smalling was not even one of them.
Even without replacing them it would not have made the starting line up any weaker than it is now.
Ruthlessness and guts to stand up to the board is what was needed and he hasn't shown any or has any inclination to do so.
A Utd man and manager in the job could easily publicly tell it how it is with the board and could cause the necassry ructions that would cause the fans to revolt against the thieves and move this club our of this stagnant position.
Thats how a club legend should act.
He just comes across as a Yes man who has got a 18 month bullet proof vest on that takes the flack away from the owners.
When he finally gets moved on who's gonna be scrambling for a his signature?
Where will his next job be ??
Norway
His lack of proven track record in football management and his lack of clear footballing direction mystifies on how he was ever appointed.
The manager of this squad needed to be ruthless in the transfer windows. Even from outside there was a min. of seven first team players that needed to be replaced and urgently moved on and smalling was not even one of them.
Even without replacing them it would not have made the starting line up any weaker than it is now.
Ruthlessness and guts to stand up to the board is what was needed and he hasn't shown any or has any inclination to do so.
A Utd man and manager in the job could easily publicly tell it how it is with the board and could cause the necassry ructions that would cause the fans to revolt against the thieves and move this club our of this stagnant position.
Thats how a club legend should act.
He just comes across as a Yes man who has got a 18 month bullet proof vest on that takes the flack away from the owners.
When he finally gets moved on who's gonna be scrambling for a his signature?
Where will his next job be ??
Norway
These are medievil times we live in. Grr
You clearly haven't read my post properly then if you're focusing on the 'screenshot'. I never focused solely on his actions vs Arsenal. It is something i have observed for months now. The ease with which we accept losing matches is there for all to see.
Lingard starts every week. He constantly goes on about the future, ignoring the shambles in reality right now. Does he not see that we're a laughing stock under him? He gives the impression he's detached from reality. It's really not a good look.
You're right, the only thing that matters are his actions and winning, we're not winning and he's not showing any signs of being a winner too.
This is what our manager is saying in public... How embarrassing.
Haha, "tagging you"? I replied to a silly comment. It's 31 in 21. Good enough for 5th.
Not sure what you mean about patterns, but there's probably some medications for that if you're seeing things. Have a good night.
Still don't think he will get sacked, it would put pressure on Woodward and Glazers. They will let it ride out until it comes much, much worse than this and wait for most of the fans to call for Ole to get sacked.
Whoever made the decision to give Ole the job and do a shit job in the summer has really fecked all this up. But it's ok, we have sponsors and the club keeps telling us we're the best club in the world! All is well, just give Ole time.
Whoever made the decision to give Ole the job and do a shit job in the summer has really fecked all this up. But it's ok, we have sponsors and the club keeps telling us we're the best club in the world! All is well, just give Ole time.
If we finish top 6 he'll still be here next season, it'll take us really starting to shit the bed for him to not be here, which is worrying, but it's just how I feel it'll go right now. Things can change quickly with Woodward though.
Can only hope that once this nightmare’s over United never gives the managerial job to an ex-player again, because if a substantial amount of fans have such a blind spot for a super sub legend I can’t imagine what it would take for someone like Giggs to be sacked
No way with Poch around. Woodward can say whatever he wants. By the end of the season with no CL he will have to pull the trigger. No CL 2 seasons in a row and losing Adidas money thanks to that will be a disaster for the club.
We made chances, had plenty of shots. It’s only the players to blame they didn’t hit the target. I seriously do not get the issue tonight. If we are talking about the arsenal game I am with you but tonight we did well and shame we couldn’t get a winning goal
And yet you come back for more.
I think it's looking less likely, 50/50 I'd say. Our injury problems will only mean results get worse in the second half of the season. Unless there is significant investment in the summer (unlikely) the next manager will struggle as well.
I get your point with the lack of improvement in how we attack. Although not sure today was the problem as I think we did alright given the squad we have. Wolves are also a very defensive side that is hard to break down.
I think Ole got things together today fairly well given how few games our midfield and attackers had played. Although if we had worked more on certain attacking patterns in training things might have been better. In terms of the specific game tactics though I think we looked good and much better compared to Arsenal.
You think we can achieve top 4 easily with our mediocre team that's full of almost there's, youngsters and past it players?!
Let me guess, you think Poch is the answer to wave a magic wand and turn this lot into world beaters eh?
Get your head out the sand. Our team is SIMPLY NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
NO ONE will give it a quick fix.
You've been too used to winning. Get used to losing and poor performances. It's going to happen with a YOUNG and INEXPERIENCED side.
God, the over expectation on this forum is becoming a joke.
Expecting us to do well, just because we're manchester united. It doesn't work like that.
Put it this way. If we did have the same players and we had a 'system' (which we currently have but no one can see it because they're too Ole Out) you'd all still complain because we aren't winning.
What is it?
I had a dream Ole was fired recently, but alas he is still here boring us shitless with his clueless tactics. Does anyone know our playing style. Tonight it looked like keep possession but dont create anything. Awful coach of one of the worlds biggest clubs. Only for the fact that he is a former player is the reason that he is still here which is a sham
They will make it up with player sells (Pogba) and little to no spend. Sacking Ole like this will put the spotlight on Woodward heavily, I can see Ed riding it out and hoping for the best, he's a muppet.
I think we've all had that dream recently. Then we wake up and realise he's still here. Like living in a nightmare that never ends.
Agree with this. Expect Pogba, Rojo and Young to be sold and cut from the wage bill.
Ed is completely safe in his position as long as Glazers are around. He can always say the plan was right but the manager failed and will continue the project under new manager etc.
That's 100% correct, Sults. Problem is though, our fanbase are way too passive, way too naive. Everytime we sack a manager, our PR machine goes into overdrive. We get promised the world and our fans swallow it hook, line and sinker. There is not even a talk of a sustained effort to get answers from the owners why we have failed so badly, never mind getting them out. And make no mistake about it, we need to get them out asap, because they'll bleed us dry before they'll leave us. It will get much worse, I fear.
I'm not talking about just tonight, it's about the season in general and how poor we have been. If we were playing well but getting the same results I would be all for ole to stay. But it's become increasingly obvious that he needs to go and mass protests needed in old Trafford about the state of the club the glazers have it in.
It sucked that we were cheering on city last year to stop the Scouse and it sucks watching them win it this year at a canter with us likely finishing 30-40 points behind.
2nd game in a row I've turned it off and done something else.
Cheers Ole.
Cheers Ole.
Yeah, you think 31 points in 21 games is acceptable? Think you're the one that needs the meds pal. Now go lie down. Clown.
I never watched today too. First time in my life i have purposely missed a Utd game. I used to plan Utd around my life, i even watched all of Moyes,LVG & Mourinho but not now.
It's too depressing and no positives to see to waste my evenings being miserable.
That's how low we are under Ole. Until he goes, he doesn't deserve any more of my time.
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Yes I do think Poch is the answer but not because he has a magic wand but because he’s an actual manager who can work with the squad we have and improve the team, unlike Ole.
Used to winning? I must have been living in an alternate reality where United have been winning for the past 6 years. Yes, I do expect us to do win because this is Manchester United, you can get use to losing and hopefully your loser mentality isn’t contagious because it’s a joke that you would even write something like that let alone actually stand behind it.
We need some Poch to Utd rumours to make us happy and forget this. Anyone got any
Heavy media and fan pressure would be game changer. It would either lead to us finally get a DoF and reduction in his duties or moving him on.
Lower win percentage than Cardiff
Why are you guys working yourselves into a frenzy and getting upset? There's no chance Ole is getting sacked. Sooner you accept that fact the better for your mental health.
Yes, we are in transition and have a thin squad but I'm not sure that explains the utter lack of coaching and cohesion in our football. It's no longer overnight but a year now and we struggle in the basic elements of football: passing, set-pieces and even throw-ins.
No one expects sparkling performances, we just want some evidence of progress. You clearly are seeing this progress but many are not. Given our form, why is it so hard to understand that others may not be as optimistic as you?
All of us want United to do well. Some believe that'll happen with another manager at the helm - hardly a scandalous suggestion and nothing to warrant being so sanctimonious about.
No. Until he continues to brings money to the club , he remains untouchable
Your entire argument of why you so smart and others dumb dumb is.....a completely unsubstantiated belief that it'll all be alright in the end.
Have you considered that Ole may have a long term project but that plan just isn't very good or even that it is but he's not a good enough coach to do it? Because that's how most managers fail.
No of course you haven't because any hurdles to you lot are actually used as supporting evidence that we're in a project and need time to complete the transition. Unwavering adulation of the grand plan, same shit we had with LvG supporters.
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