We've lost a plan b if the rest of the season goes tits up.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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My non United mates are delighted at this news. They think he'll be worse than Moyes next season and will be the 1st manager to get sacked.
My United mates are gutted that we didn't get Poch and cant wait for him to go through a bad patch so they can 'SEE WE TOLD YOU'
My United mates are gutted that we didn't get Poch and cant wait for him to go through a bad patch so they can 'SEE WE TOLD YOU'
You should find new mates.My non United mates are delighted at this news. They think he'll be worse than Moyes next season and will be the 1st manager to get sacked.
My United mates are gutted that we didn't get Poch and cant wait for him to go through a bad patch so they can 'SEE WE TOLD YOU'
At least let Ole bring in some players? And who was Plan B? Pochettino seems happy being the underdog at Spurs. No one knows how he’d handle the pressure cooker of Man Utd. You have to win trophies here. We’re not Spurs.
Who else would you appoint?
The mediocrity is our most recent two results which were losses. We could've "rewarded" him on the back of the PSG victory, we could've "rewarded" him at the end of the season, we could've "rewarded" him after a derby victory for example but instead we choose to "reward" him during the worst run of his tenure which sends out the wrong message.
He didn't get the job as a reward anyway. I think if he got it at the end of the season you'd still sing the same tune.
I think the timing was perfect. We have lost a couple of matches and needed a boost which we knew was soon coming anyway. Why not do it at a time when we are a little hump down the path. Now the players know that Ole will add amazing players to this team and also that he will make sure the good ones stay and improve on their game. We can now go on and grow in confidence.
I don't think we can beat Barcelona but i do think we can put up a fight against them. Keep it to a couple of low scoring games and hide Messi. We are very young team and Ole can gel this team together in a fine machine in the coming years.
Managers get sacked left, right an centre Ole will be no exception, we were 11 points off 4th and beating PSG was a write off. The remainder of the season is a free hit, Ole has more than exceeded expectations. There is no need for a plan B. If this time next year its going tits up then that's a completely different story. The negativity here is just annoying.
I wouldn't because he's #1 choice for me and if you don't hire him at the end of the season when would you? Pointless reply.
I thought you were against appointing him?
So what's the problem?
I'm not complaining when I get things I want in head of time..
No, it would help if you read the whole conversation. What you saw was a reply to a reply to a reply to a reply to an OP without the context.
Signing him now is the best idea because he can seriously talk with potential summer signings, he can sell them a project that he will officially be part of.
Sorry. No need to get all angry.
Time for Ole to introduce his own philosophy, I want to see more free-flowing football as he did when he took over and I loved that style of play before Lecister City game where we seem to be regressing with style of play but still creates chances. For away big games, I'd be okay with counterattacking, a bit like Bayern Munich 2013.
It's not weird when you consider that it's an international break, it means that the suits and Ole had time to sit around a table, calmly talk about the future and get all the paperwork done without distraction. It has nothing to do with the last two games which would be a ridiculous barometer when you are taking a long term decision.
Wow just wow. I had no idea this happened.
Where have you been living? Nearly 30 hours have passed..
Haha, yeah I know. I've been sick in bed since yesterday.
This x100.
This wasn't a "reward" for doing well for the last three months. This was hiring a guy who showed what he can do in an extended interview that probably wasn't intended to be an interview. They found a diamond in the field on the way to the store to buy one.
I really don't get the, "What if it goes pear shaped?" crowd. Do you really think that's going to happen? Because the last two games before the international break were losses? Only one of those was really bad. Spurs have three losses and a draw in the last four league games! Two of those losses being to Burnley (Gasp! We only drew them!) and Southampton, both of whom are only out of the relegation zone because of those victories, being two points above Cardiff. Guess Poch has simply lost his touch and should be sent packing...
As for all the talk about how much we have or haven't spent on players, the better questions are "Who have we gotten?" and "Why did we get them?" What was the plan? Why did you spend so much on player X or player Y? One of the driving factors in hiring Ole was his clear desire to have a certain style of play that's appealing. To that end, I think they'll have no problems opening up the purse strings. He'll have a clear direction and reasons for each player he wants to bring in. I'm rather under the impression that one problem (and hardly the only one) between Woodward and Mourinho was a lack of that clear direction. And the direction in general.
I just ow these people do this for ckicks but don't these guys care about their reputations?
The two most successful managers in the last decade were novices appointed to big jobs.
The two most successful managers in the last decade were novices appointed to big jobs.
If we are really honest we know 6/7 Spurs players can walk into this current UTD team means Pochentino is operating with a better quality at spurs
That is a good news for us, As Ole managed to pull great results with this current squad, Imagine what he can do by adding 4/5 quality players to this side?
So I dont find the logic in people saying Pochentino is a better manager than Ole..Having said that no doubt he done really well at Spurs
That is a good news for us, As Ole managed to pull great results with this current squad, Imagine what he can do by adding 4/5 quality players to this side?
So I dont find the logic in people saying Pochentino is a better manager than Ole..Having said that no doubt he done really well at Spurs
Well I'm not the guy appointing the next manger, but I'd expect that Ed would have a shortlist including the many names who've been repeatedly discussed on here. It would be utterly negligent not to.
And plan b, if we're being honest, was Ole. He was a caretaker, not the frontrunner.
I get the argument about having him in place to give a sense of permanency to potential signings/ players who are stalling over renewal but how would those same players feel if we limped feebly to the end of the season? It's hardly the biggest sell.
So a multi-billion pound football club, having botched 3 managerial appointments in 6 years, doesn't need a contingency plan when appointing manager number 4? That's fecking mental.
The official twitter account aren’t half milking “Ole’s at the wheel” are they.
And Plan A for fecking years was Jose. And we got him. How did that end?
There is no sure thing in football. The closest to a sure thing we have right now is Pep Guardiola who would demand vast amounts of transfer kitty to play his football because he can’t be pragmatic. Plus he’s at our rivals so impossible to lure him away.
Solksjaer right now is the very best appointment we can make. I’m excited because he understands what this club demands.
Well that's bollocks because Barcelona, Madrid, AC Milan and Monaco have all done it in recent times. Arsenal even contemplated doing it with Arteta last season.
Jose was the right guy at the wrong time but his appointment made sense. In many respects Ole's makes sense now.
Like you, I've been totally uplifted by the last 3 months, it's been a rare period of footballing joy. All I'm saying is we had time to keep our powder dry, make sure the past fortnight was just a blip and then make it permanent. Nothing much would've been lost.
No other club would have appointed Ole Solskjaer?
Yeah probably not - but he's a club legend and has fit the role like a glove since he come in, so I don't give a feck about other clubs.
I still think Pochettino will eventually manage us at some point.
Very happy with the decision to give Ole the chance. He deserves it. Now we will have the chance to see if he is or can develop into a top class manager. I really hope he will continue to have this brilliant backing of the fans even it things dont go as well as in his first few months.
I don't want to panic the flock but, while I do love Ole and the fact that the players are willing to play for him, does that mean that he's suddenly qualified for the gig? Does he really have a CV fit that's fit for the job or is he a cheap option to placate the fans because Woody couldn't persuade Poch to come play at Disney?
I do hope I'm wrong but, in all fairness, Moyes had a better CV as did LVG & Mourinho and look at where they got us with 'player power' ruling supreme in these parts?
I sincerely wish the man the very best but this doesn't smell right and I'm calling it out for what I think it is because I'm always honest with my friends.
I kinda doubt it but do please feel free to take the piss out of me after we've mopped up a couple of honours next season!
I do hope I'm wrong but, in all fairness, Moyes had a better CV as did LVG & Mourinho and look at where they got us with 'player power' ruling supreme in these parts?
I sincerely wish the man the very best but this doesn't smell right and I'm calling it out for what I think it is because I'm always honest with my friends.
I kinda doubt it but do please feel free to take the piss out of me after we've mopped up a couple of honours next season!
Ole is a mastermind and hes a good human being thats a crucial thing to have as a leader, hes unique and money can't buy love either. He's so determent I'm sure he will bring trophies and great excitement around the club in the nearest future. If some few fans can't enjoy this great appointment and the matches we had under him so far i think those fans ore members should go support another manager & club basically.. Those kind of fans need to learn to support when we loose as well instead of finding someone to blame when we loose. I think about maybe 95 % of fans are with Ole ? Not sure, but it really seems like a real popular decision.
Sure we will have tuff periods off course and then probably some fans will still scream to kick Solskjaer out at once
We can see that the club is growing in the right direction now so it´s important to step up as fans to, at the matches, in online forums, everywhere we go as united fans we have the opportunity to be the best fans in the world so we always need to act thereafter and support the club in good and bad days...
- How many % do you think is happy with Ole´s appointment at the moment out there ?
Sure we will have tuff periods off course and then probably some fans will still scream to kick Solskjaer out at once
We can see that the club is growing in the right direction now so it´s important to step up as fans to, at the matches, in online forums, everywhere we go as united fans we have the opportunity to be the best fans in the world so we always need to act thereafter and support the club in good and bad days...
- How many % do you think is happy with Ole´s appointment at the moment out there ?
It don't matter really when you give a contract. It could have been on that run but then you lose a game and then what? Regret it? We were going to lose at some point and awarding it after our worst performance is fine. It shows an appriciation for where we are now, and a confidence we're going in the right direction.
TO be fair it also shows that the club did not stick to the process they had laid out previously, something along the lines of: Interim manager through the end of the season giving us a chance to do a thorough search and determine our next manager at the end of the year.
Maybe it's for the better that something like this slapped them in the face, rather than them doing their due diligence. Hands tied or not, the decision doesn't do anything to shake the idea that this ownership and management are reactive and don't really have a plan to stick to.
People keep saying he hasn't got the qualifications to be our manager but at least he's won league championships (albeit at a lower level). Moyes' CV was nowhere near Ole's and Poch has never won anything, just managed to get top 4. LVG and Maureen may have had better CVs but look at the mess they made of the job.
Also, for those saying it's the wrong time, maybe it's because contract negotiations and new signings need to know who's going to be at the helm. Waiting until end of season leaves an awful lot of doubt for what the future might be.
Interesting to see how this goes. It is true he understands the club and galvanised it on succeeding Mourinho. A caveat being that The Divisive One had brought United to low depths this season. Cardiff can be put down to a learning curve. Molde has shown he has the wherewithal to be a winner.
For he own sake he may need to now move on from the Ferguson ties. He leaves himself open to potential ridicule if he doesn't emerge as his own man. He will command the respect of the dressing room due to his playing career and high regard in which he is held by United fans. He remaining doubt as I see it is the transfer market. How good of an eye does he have for a player. He has shown by the removal of Fellaini he is not afraid to ship people out. Interesting summer ahead!
For he own sake he may need to now move on from the Ferguson ties. He leaves himself open to potential ridicule if he doesn't emerge as his own man. He will command the respect of the dressing room due to his playing career and high regard in which he is held by United fans. He remaining doubt as I see it is the transfer market. How good of an eye does he have for a player. He has shown by the removal of Fellaini he is not afraid to ship people out. Interesting summer ahead!
Pep was just a reserve team coach when he got the job and won the treble at Barca his first season.
Just saying.
Naysayers begone. Ole has been hired. No need for this discussion at this moment in time
Just saying.
Naysayers begone. Ole has been hired. No need for this discussion at this moment in time
Plus Ole has managed to win an away game against a top four side during his time managing in the Premier League...
I've been out of the loop on United, but were there any external/contractual reasons why this couldn't have been done at the end of the season to get the whole picture?
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