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I know tactical decisions are mostly on Ole but do Carrick and McKenna only sit there and say "yes boss"? seem like none of them complain or question some of the decisions at all?
No way, brother. That's too late. He should be sacked as soon as us crashing out looks likely. With all the investment this season, a repeat of last years failure is unacceptable.He should be sacked if we can't get through this group stage.
No more excuses.
His record in the CL is awful, didn't think it would be that bad.
I don't understand what he was trying to do tonight, subs and tactics made no sense at all.
Can't help but think he is far too reliant on individual brilliance. I hope he proves people like me wrong and wins the league this season, but I just can't see it.
FFS, all the feel-good factor is gone too.
I agree, but we won’t go out I don’t think.He should be sacked if we can't get through this group stage.
No more excuses.
Yeah. Not sure how we managed to go 1-0 up when the odds were stacked against us like that.We should because they are very very bad compared to us. We should be struggling against them right? Based on their pitch being difficult to play on? Right?
Ronaldo might have the chance to complete his trophy set hahaNext is Atalanta and Villarreal. As if we are going to win it. Both are tactically we drilled teams. Europa , here we come.
That's a good example. Completely lost our heads. However you could say that Spurs are a good team who were in better physical condition than us owing to no pre-season for our players. However this was inexcusable. That second half was as disgraceful as they come. Yet some on here will have you believe that it's all AWB's fault. Yes, he was very careless and sometimes stuff like that happens when you lunge, but to then send the team out second half playing as if we are about to get thrashed, was so shameful.The last red I remember from us is the 6-1 defeat to Spurs, where we again just gave up.
If the game ends 1-1 then the rhetoric is completely different. Everyone's acting like Solskjaer played the back pass.
So now we're also not blaming the manager when his own tactical subs miserably flop and lose us the game.
Great. You guys are starting to reach another level of absolving him of blame.
Every team face freak result. However, these kind of performance, and even result is not uncommon for us. That's where it is worrying. I don't think there is progression in our football. It's more about improvement in player quality. However player quality can only do as much. In situation like going down 10 men, it requires manager ability to come up with idea to control the game which we're as clueless as ever.Well that is fair. I'll stop being as supportive when we stop progressing.
The problem is that we've been continiously progressing as a team. This result isolated isnt a concern for me, with 11 men we don't lose.
Close to an hour with 10 men on a plastic pitch away from home in the first game of the group stage? It would've been a good result.
Ok but if we smash the next 5 games in the group, like we very well might do I am sure the narrative changes. The season will be full of ups and downs. I’d rather lose tonight than Sunday or last game in the groupIt's not one game. We have a fair share of absolutely disgraceful performances, like today, against Wolves and even Southampton it was crap. Quite often we manage to escape with a win because we have top squad but we don't perform anywhere near as well as we should.
It's not one game. We (Insert any club name here) have a fair share of absolutely disgraceful performances, like today, against Wolves and even Southampton it was crap. Quite often we manage to escape with a win because we have top squad but we don't perform anywhere near as well as we should.
Agreed. This group of players have a lot going for them. Any manager with pedigree will get this group playing well and competing for serious silverware. With Ole, we will never be good enough it seems and will most likely waste the last years of Ronaldo as well.We are quick to demand we sell our deadwood players but we forget that the worst of the lot is sitting in the dugout. I have never known a manager so capable of pulling defeat from the jaws of victory.
Much like England with Southgate, the team we now have is far too good to be wasted on a failing managerial experiment.
Yea same. I just cannot see it when i see the way we play and also because there are too many good teams as well in both England and Europe.
On paper we have one of the best teams in the world but we dont play like it, mostly away from home.
Should have taken off pogba when we went a man down and also should have left fred on.
Everyone's decision gave way to that back pass if you're scrutinising it to that degree.his decisions are what gave way to the back pass
He speaks like they play CL group games every weekAre you for real?
you actually think this wasn't an awful performance?! feck me, This whole performance was a joke. We invited far too much pressure, played hoof ball and failed to regain control. Being a man down is not a fecking excuse to allow 19 shots to 2 versus Young Boys.No. That was an awful performance. This was 2 stupid incidents that occurred neither of which had bollocks all to do with tactics or whatever other shite people are talking about.
Maybe for you.If the game ends 1-1 then the rhetoric is completely different. Everyone's acting like Solskjaer played the back pass.
This team is ready to win, the manager is not a winner and neither is he stackable or will he do enough to be sacked due to the quality at is disposal. It's purgatory.
I think the people calling for is head are wasting their time.
Even if the game ended 1-1, that second half performance was a shambles. 10 men or not, to not even have an attempt the whole half is not acceptable, especially against a team like Young Boys.If the game ends 1-1 then the rhetoric is completely different. Everyone's acting like Solskjaer played the back pass.
He’s just not good enough. Put him in charge of any one of Brighton, Burnley, Newcastle, Palace, Southampton, etc. Any of them, clubs who usually stay up comfortably, and I guarantee you he would get them relegated. 100% guarantee.
We are faced with having to put a shift in to beat villareal and atalanta. Its gonna be very difficult.Am I the only one relaxed here?
We're out of CL already?
Sack Ole now and restart again? 5 games into the season?
Mind blowing stuff here.
Do we need 18 points to go through or something?Are you for real?
This team is ready to win, the manager is not a winner and neither is he stackable or will he do enough to be sacked due to the quality at is disposal. It's purgatory.
I think the people calling for is head are wasting their time.