Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

[Member 58925]

Conte has won 5 titles in 7 seasons but he wouldn’t have the team performing better than Ole. Okay pal, ok.

Including breaking Juve’s 9 year run.

 

[Mickeza]

100% of what he said was true.

Unlikely. He’s an anti-United troll. Probably posts on here to be honest.

 

[Member 58925]

Unlikely. He’s an anti-United troll. Probably posts on here to be honest.

No likely or unlikely about it. Everything he said was true.

 

[dove]

Zidane resigned for finishing second with Real by 2 points and not doing better in the CL. Would probably have been pushed if he hadn’t.

Can you imagine what would have happened if Real had failed to qualify from their CL group, losing out to a team like Leipzig. Then went to the Europa League to reached the final against mid table English team like Wolves. Then not only lose it, but basically play for penalties from about 75’ on.

Zidane would have committed sepuku. And if not Florentino would have him hang, drawn and quartered. Yet here at United, a team with a comparable budget and reputation to Real, we’ll call it progress. And we’ll let the manager who is seemingly scared of making subs and who went 100 mins in a final without making subs, to have a go at it again next season. As if he seems to be learning anything.

Depressing.

Real is the biggest club in the world for a reason. They always want to win everything. Meanwhile we are just happy to be “challenging”. Even some of our fans are convinced this was a very good season. Cherry on the cake will be Ole’s contract extension.

 

[UnofficialDevil]

Zidane resigned for finishing second with Real by 2 points and not doing better in the CL. Would probably have been pushed if he hadn’t.

Can you imagine what would have happened if Real had failed to qualify from their CL group, losing out to a team like Leipzig. Then went to the Europa League to reached the final against mid table English team like Wolves. Then not only lose it, but basically play for penalties from about 75’ on.

Zidane would have committed sepuku. And if not Florentino would have him hang, drawn and quartered. Yet here at United, a team with a comparable budget and reputation to Real, we’ll call it progress. And we’ll let the manager who is seemingly scared of making subs and who went 100 mins in a final without making subs, to have a go at it again next season. As if he seems to be learning anything.

Depressing.

Yes it is depressing, and we then we get all the excuses how much Ole loves the club, he has the United dna bla bla, as though Zidane doesnt, he was just as much a player legend for them.

 

[Norman Brownbutter]

I know half this list is presented in jest but not one of these managers would have this squad performaning any better.

Every single one of them, would have had better tactics in place and would have adjusted their game plan when they saw what Emery was doing. Half of it is in jest, but really, they are all better options than a guy who got sacked because he couldnt cut it in the championship. A few good games here and there shouldnt be enough to keep the United job. It just shouldnt. Any other club with ambition is ruthless. Ole for past 12 months(probably more) has shown that he has no answers to the low block. If we arent playing on the counter, we struggle hard to break teams down. Emery went into this game knowing exactly what he had to do, and he played it perfectly.

 

[el3mel]

I know half this list is presented in jest but not one of these managers would have this squad performaning any better.

The current Real Madrid squad is much worse than us and Zidane did great with them. They have about 5 top players at most all of them are on their last legs and the rest of the team is average as feck but Zidane managed to reach CL semis and challenge for the league till the last week. Let's see what the next RM will do with this squad.

 

[UnofficialDevil]

The current Real Madrid squad is much worse than us and Zidane did great with them. They have about 5 top players at most all of them are on their last legs and the rest of the team is average as feck but Zidane managed to reach CL semis and challenge for the league till the last week. Let's see what the next RM will do with this squad.

And yet he still had the balls to resign, something Ole would never do.

 

[mu4c_20le]

No likely or unlikely about it. Everything he said was true.

So you're a troll.

 

[MadMike]

So Zidane 3 times champions league winner and conté won't have this team playing better?

Honestly some of you guys are embarrassing yourselves. I love Ole as much as the next united fan but use your logic.

They have burned their last braincells. They literally believe no manager could have got Man United with its budget to play better after 2.5 years than Villarreal. Nobody could have done better than Ole. He won the Norwegian league in 2013 don’t you know?

Braindead.

 

[Siezard]

I guess Ole must be dreaming. He must be dreaming that Cavani, Bruno, Pogba, Rashford and Greenwood will somehow score so he refuses to sub them out early.

Then he must also be dreaming of a redemption for De Gea. I think Ole needs to check up cold hard facts that De Gea isn't a good penalty saver.

 

[Bullhitter]

We're also not a club known for having a revolving door manager policy

Is that a (weak and inaccurate) jibe? Because since Ferguson left you have had 1 less permanent manager than Chelsea in the same period.

But please die on that sword if you wish.

 

[Member 58925]

So you're a troll.

If I say yes do you promise not to bore me with your mindless pompom waiving and excuse making?

 

[Halftrack]

Conte and Zidane resigned today.

Isn't Zidane's deal that he'd prefer not to be a manager? And that he only agreed to manage RM because he loves the club?

 

[Ludens the Red]

agreed with a lot he has to say

He’s a bell end.
And It’s a brutal put down but it spews a lot of hard truths.
The underlining point isn’t him criticising Ole or disparaging him. It’s pointing out that in order for United get to the top level they need to make that change.

 

[pocco]

£85-100m worth of attackers that Ole signed on the bench, yet he won't bring them on.

All would start for the opposition.

 

[r0663664]

Conte is out for job, someone who ended juventus championship stranglehold. I hope the board consider Conte then to renew Ole contract.

 

[Silas]

We're also not a club known for having a revolving door manager policy

Because we happened to have the best manager of all time for 26 years.

 

[Mickeza]

No likely or unlikely about it. Everything he said was true.

No. It matched your opinions. But on the night of a final defeat you’re calling for conte so I couldn’t give a flying feck what you think. I’m devastated tonight because a club legend failed to win a trophy. It would have meant so much seeing this young developing team win something under him. Whilst others such as Amadeus and likely yourself are fecking gleeful because you can get back on your same shite agenda you’ve had for the last 2 years.

 

[lefty_jakobz]

Is that a (weak and inaccurate) jibe? Because since Ferguson left you have had 1 less permanent manager than Chelsea in the same period.

But please die on that sword if you wish.

Your club is run as a football club, ours is run as an ATM for the owners. Your owner craves success, ours crave dollar bills

 

[Diabovermelho]

Honest question, would you trade Ole for one of Zidane, Conte or Allegri?

 

[pocco]

The right man. Onus on the owners.

How much has Ole spent? I bet more on signings than the whole Villarreal team combined. Plus the players already at his disposal. Owners not to blame for this.

 

[hobbers]

Conte and Zidane resigned today.

Conte is a very short term solution though.

If Ole was sacked (but obviously he won't be) before next season and we got in Conte or Zidane, I certainly wouldn't complain.

If we start next season badly his position will become untenable very quickly.

 

[UnofficialDevil]

Conte is a very short term solution though.

If Ole was sacked (but obviously he won't be) before next season and we got in Conte or Zidane, I certainly wouldn't complain.

If we start next season badly his position will become untenable very quickly.

He could resign, just like Zidane did.

 

[Member 58925]

Because we happened to have the best manager of all time for 26 years.

When they have no argument they throw up vague contextless statements like that. We had the same manager for 26 years because he was a once in a lifetime manager.

 

[MadMike]

Is that a (weak and inaccurate) jibe? Because since Ferguson left you have had 1 less permanent manager than Chelsea in the same period.

But please die on that sword if you wish.

There is no logic any more with some. It has literally left the building. It’s all emotional responses “the right dna”, “the Manchester United way”, “not a revolving door club”.

Just meaningless sound bites failing any reality test.

 

[Berbaclass]

No. It matched your opinions. But on the night of a final defeat you’re calling for conte so I couldn’t give a flying feck what you think. I’m devastated tonight because a club legend failed to win a trophy. It would have meant so much seeing this young developing team win something under him. Whilst others such as Amadeus and likely yourself are fecking gleeful because you can get back on your same shite agenda you’ve had for the last 2 years.

Burley was pretty accurate. You're living in cuckoo land.

 

[hobbers]

He could resign, just like Zidane did.

I'd be impressed if he did but he won't.

He genuinely looks like he buys into this "three year process" nonsense.

 

[Foxbatt]

Why didn't he change DeGea for the penalties? Like LVG for Netherlands?

 

[MadMike]

Conte is a very short term solution though.

If Ole was sacked (but obviously he won't be) before next season and we got in Conte or Zidane, I certainly wouldn't complain.

If we start next season badly his position will become untenable very quickly.

Are you asking me to pick between a short-term potential of success or a long-term prospect of failure?

 

[Bullhitter]

There is no logic any more with some. It has literally left the building. It’s all emotional responses “the right dna”, “the Manchester United way”, “not a revolving door club”.

Just meaningless sound bites failing any reality test.

And about the only thing Solskjaer is actually good at it is playing to the gallery with nauseating sound bites. Enough lap it up no matter.

 

[hobbers]

Are you asking me to pick between a short-term potential of success or a long-term prospect of failure?

No I'm just lamenting how badly Woodward fecked us over when he gave Ole that contract. Opportunity cost and all.

 

[lefty_jakobz]

He’s a bell end.
And It’s a brutal put down but it spews a lot of hard truths.
The underlining point isn’t him criticising Ole or disparaging him. It’s pointing out that in order for United get to the top level they need to make that change.

He also said a massive truth...theres no drive from those at the top to get us back amongst the top tier of football...they are only here for the money.

 

[Mockney]

I don't think any player would make a decision to not sign with us because of tonight and conversely wouldn't think they should join us if we did win.

We'll be in the CL next year and challenging for the league. The players will want to be a part of that. Kane would have a much better chance at us and Sancho or Haaland would as well. The only team that they would prefer would be City and there's no real shame in that, that's just where they're at right now.

Sure, but you say that like one of the most enticing things about City isn’t their manager?.... the days of Berbatov and Van Persie choosing us over them due to romance and prestige are dwindling fast... and even when it wasn’t, both of those players have made big deals since about how Fergie was personally a big factor in their moves...

We’re now rapidly approaching an era where the new up and coming stars don’t see us as the all conquering behemoth of their youth - players who are 18 now would’ve been 9 or 10 when Aguero won City their first title - so we have to entice them with something more than just legacy and the prospect of playing under someone who scored an important goal before they were born!.. In the same way City became a much bigger allure because of Pep, and Liverpool did because of Klopp... and as I pointed out before, we only snared the likes of Zlatan and Pogba after finishing 6th because Mourinho at United still seemed like an attractive proposition in 2016

.There has to come a point where Ole becomes such a figure in his own right, otherwise we’ll inevitably be seen as a less attractive club, despite all the best nostalgic will in the world.

And the only way to do that is to build up a reputation as a winner... like Zidane did at Real, and Pep did at Barca ... only both of them had built substantially more by their 3rd season than Ole has thus far.

I’ve openly doubted him before, and so am really wary of doing so again... I desperately want him to prove me wrong! But I’m also consistently seeing all the same problems I had with him back then, rear their ugly heads again, and again, and again.... and I feel losing a European final as Manchester United manager, to a team that had never reached one before, with a side pound for pound inferior to us in every position, is a massive red flag that can’t be easily waved away... and assuming players don’t care about that kind of thing is naive at best.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Tired team up against eleven men behind the ball for 120 minutes, with zero options off the bench. I just don't see how tonight could have been better under a different manager.

I'd rather be mediocre under a club legend than mediocre under a Zidane or Conte. But hey, different strokes... #GlazersOut

 

[Suedesi]

agreed with a lot he has to say

SPOT ON

 

[pocco]

I know half this list is presented in jest but not one of these managers would have this squad performaning any better.

See Conte at Chelsea for a start.

 

[lefty_jakobz]

Tired team up against eleven men behind the ball for 120 minutes, with zero options off the bench. I just don't see how tonight could have been better under a different manager.

I'd rather be mediocre under a club legend than mediocre under a Zidane or Conte. But hey, different strokes... #GlazersOut

Ok fair enough thats your opinion. Can I ask do you believe had Ole been in charge of either Real Madrid or Inter Milan would he be able to achieve what those two have this season?

 

[KiD MoYeS]

See Conte at Chelsea for a start.

Missed the part he had Bailly and Lindelof, neither are Ole signings, starting centre-back.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Ok fair enough thats your opinion. Can I ask do you believe had Ole been in charge of either Real Madrid or Inter Milan would he be able to achieve what those two have this season?

I don't know. I haven't been particularly impressed by what either Conte or Zidane have done as managers. I don't think many credit Zidane with Madrid's success, do they? Conte has won Serie A having spent more than the opposition and has quit now he's been asked to reel it back.