Let's hope Poch saves us, I mean he's great at winning leagues and trophies isn't he
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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I have a bad feeling for next season. We won't attract any world class players and could well go into a decline. We certainly can't match City. Liverpool and Chelsea will get stronger and we will be left behind. By the time Ole leaves, the club will be in shambles once again.
3 years
Zero trophies except for the Mourinho second place trophy, 5 points ahead of crisis team Liverpool.
Endless meek semifinal exits.
Almost £300m spent
Made three defensive signings for 150m with no real improvement to the defense since his first game.
Unbecoming beta football, reliant on penalties and individual brilliance.
All his "famous" wins have been low pressure/underdog games, PSG in CL, game to end City's run.
Playing for a draw at home to City
Subs l0l
The Deadwoods "Assassinated" by Babyface
"My Rashy Always Plays"
"We cannot even be considered as title challengers"
"Trophies can be an ego thing"
"Progress"
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Zero trophies except for the Mourinho second place trophy, 5 points ahead of crisis team Liverpool.
Endless meek semifinal exits.
Almost £300m spent
Made three defensive signings for 150m with no real improvement to the defense since his first game.
Unbecoming beta football, reliant on penalties and individual brilliance.
All his "famous" wins have been low pressure/underdog games, PSG in CL, game to end City's run.
Playing for a draw at home to City
Subs l0l
The Deadwoods "Assassinated" by Babyface
"My Rashy Always Plays"
"We cannot even be considered as title challengers"
"Trophies can be an ego thing"
"Progress"
Bin.
So it's all the players.
Then it's also the players who finished 2nd and brought us this final.
What fecking hypocrisy and contradiction this is.
We had a 7/10 season, it could have been a 8/10, instead its a 6/10. Perspective. We go again next year.
Did you get enjoyment out of tonight?
Not my fault I can take what happens in the past and use it to predict the future. And be proven right.
Your posts are nonsense pal. Take off your red-tinted glasses.
Ole's in-game management is absolutely shocking at times. There have been dozens of games where we have lost or dropped points because he's very reluctant to change anything.
It is a game. Do you think decisions should be made on a game or over longer periods of time ?
People in positions of power at football clubs generally know the answer, and that is why there is a zero percent chance ole is sacked, while some posters on this forum are 100pc sure he should be
Say what you want, but for many, this performance and result vindicates a lot of people who want him gone. It’s not knee jerk when many fans have wanted him gone all season. 5 points separate United's best season in ages, from Liverpool’s apparent disaster of a season.
Glorified counter attacking manager, nothing more. And the less said about the coaching staff around him the better...
How Emery done in the Champions League out of interest??
Love Ole as a guy and player but he needs to improve, quickly.
Emery absolutely done Ole tonight with a far inferior side. That isn't good enough and it should send alarm bells for every united fan. The players will lose confidence with him after tonight
Yeah you are emotional..
Don't be silly. simply a quality cb and rw will make a huge difference.
It actually warms my heart how much displeasure you seem to take from United.
Answer this.... How are we arguably the best team in the world at coming from behind, most goals from subs in the league... How do you make sense of you logic in the face of those facts
What's Ole done?
Like it or not ole will be here next season, 2nd place and a final he isnt going anywhere.. .... but i dont think he is the man to lead us back to glory.
He lacks a plan B when plan A doesnt work. We were always going to struggle against an organised deep sitting team.. look at the season and the losses at home..ole doesnt have the plan b against teams who sit back.
I’d like Brendon Rogers at united but ole will be here next year end off.
He lacks a plan B when plan A doesnt work. We were always going to struggle against an organised deep sitting team.. look at the season and the losses at home..ole doesnt have the plan b against teams who sit back.
I’d like Brendon Rogers at united but ole will be here next year end off.
People keep hoping that he would be Fergie come again, but they will be disappointed.
He is a fancier Moyes.
He is a fancier Moyes.
What was the point difference between Liverpool and United last season? Remind me please??
You are right. My mistake
It really didn't have to be that way.
We badly needed an injection of energy after 60, 90 and hell even at 105 minutes to keep up the intensity and we may have scored through sheer will. I mean when was the last time you saw practically the whole starting team play 120 minutes in a major final ?
4 years without a single trophy. Ole has been manager for almost 3 of those.
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Starting XI on point, but no game changer on the bench today from an attacking perspective and therefore no substitutions as the game went on. Our best players or possible match winners (Bruno, Rashford and Pogba) really let us down tonight. Ultimately, we should be able to change our shape and approach during games, which hasn't been the case all season and that's on Ole. There are some teams, that are just too good to stop them and win things by sticking to their philosophy. We are not that kind of team and need more tactical flexibility in certain games. It's obvious that, apart from the squad itself, the coaching department needs improvement too. No need to sack Ole, as he has done a lot of good things in terms of squad (re)building and man management, but add someone to the coaching staff with experience and real tactical knowledge.
True, just makes me wonder how long we'll stick with Ole for, his management tonight was poor and disappointing
Made one simple mistake of playing g Greenwood instead of playing Rashford right and Pogba where Pogba should play on the left. Dreadful night.
Atr you seriously comparing Emery's managerial record with Ole's?
I feel Ole is the biggest problem. We need better players too, but I think the ones we got with 3-4 good signings this summer could win the title next year under a really good manager.
Say this 11
Henderson/Heaton
Wan Bissaka/new new/Lindelöf Maguire/Bailly Shaw/Telles
new /Fred
Pogba/Mctominay Bruno/Donny
Greenwood/Rashford Cavani/Martial new/Amad
Say this 11
Henderson/Heaton
Wan Bissaka/new new/Lindelöf Maguire/Bailly Shaw/Telles
new /Fred
Pogba/Mctominay Bruno/Donny
Greenwood/Rashford Cavani/Martial new/Amad
Let's hope Poch saves us, I mean he's great at winning leagues and trophies isn't he
Well he’s already won 2 trophies at PSG.
Beat PSG
I'm no fan of Ole and eventually believe he will be moved on. Him being sacked is out of the question.
There is one reason why this team cannot get anything over the line and it's because Solskjaer does not have the mentality of a winning manager. Throughout this season he's conceded he isn't challenging when the team was first in the league. After the fixture against Wolves recently he's asked about his expectation winning the final and concedes to say "let's see".
United can have a world class team, top player in every position but the team only achieves what is within reach of their protracted expectation. Today is a big loss, it spoke more about Solskjaer's character and his future at top football more so than anything else.
There is one reason why this team cannot get anything over the line and it's because Solskjaer does not have the mentality of a winning manager. Throughout this season he's conceded he isn't challenging when the team was first in the league. After the fixture against Wolves recently he's asked about his expectation winning the final and concedes to say "let's see".
United can have a world class team, top player in every position but the team only achieves what is within reach of their protracted expectation. Today is a big loss, it spoke more about Solskjaer's character and his future at top football more so than anything else.
Give me just one fecking crucial game to win a cup or in a title challenge for us that he managed properly ?
We didn't create a single chance in open play against a 4-4-2 that offered little pressing, pace or threat.
Are we happy with that? Because it happened against Sheff United, WBA etc etc etc, it's a pattern, and it's gone too far. If you look at the players we have on the pitch, to create so little really needs to be questioned. I don't know why it isn't.
Are we happy with that? Because it happened against Sheff United, WBA etc etc etc, it's a pattern, and it's gone too far. If you look at the players we have on the pitch, to create so little really needs to be questioned. I don't know why it isn't.
I know that this result vindicates people. Any bad result does. These are people that spoke in absolutes 18 months ago and have been raging ever since as ole has improved the team and broken records, making them look stupider and stupider... It is a glorious day for these people, this is their cup final in the age of tribalism, marriage to opinions etc. I accept that. It will blow over in a few days and we can focus on how to move on
About the same as Emery in the Champions League
Agree on the first. Calling for his head just feels pretty pointless at this stage. I don't have the energy to get all riled up like some on here.
On the other point, pretty sure he won't improve. This is his 10th season in management. He's not a world class manager and never wil be. He got the job under very unusual circumstances.
Anyway, I am convinced next season will be his last here.
We did create chances, you didn't watch the game haha
I’ve been Ole out for the majority of the season but so badly wanted him to get his hands on that trophy.
Nothing’s changed, though. He’s not an elite manager, he’s not going to become one, and it’s case of how long we’re prepared to wait for him to win a trophy because he’s one of our own.
Nothing’s changed, though. He’s not an elite manager, he’s not going to become one, and it’s case of how long we’re prepared to wait for him to win a trophy because he’s one of our own.
Fecking hell, keep him here forever. He beat the mighty PSG (who still haven't won the Champions League).
I don't think it's that bad tbf, we're lucky in that Spurs and Arsenal aren't doing anything remotely threatening so as long as we finish above Leicester top 4 should be secured again next season
Scant consolation I know
If he doesn't win something next season, that's it.
I love him, I like the feel of the squad, but even Moyes won more than him.
Van Gaal and Jose won more than him.
And this is the worry with Ole. There's just nothing about him that really makes you think of him as a winner.
I love him, I like the feel of the squad, but even Moyes won more than him.
Van Gaal and Jose won more than him.
And this is the worry with Ole. There's just nothing about him that really makes you think of him as a winner.
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