Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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Reapersoul20 said:
You're one of the worst posters on this forum.

Nobody is saying he is perfect for the job. We're saying that anyone who has already judged him and wants him to leave - with NONE OF HIS OWN SIGNINGS, playing with NO PRESEASON, and inheriting the team halfway through a season - is a complete and total imbecile.
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So what if he has had no signings or no preseason? Neither has Rodgers who joined Leicester barely two months ago, at least you can see what type of football he’s trying to play, they have a certain style and it’s totally different to the football Peul played, any decent manager would be able to implement a certain style within 4 months of coaching.

But yeah according to some fans ole needs to get rid of half the squad, a billion pound to spend and 3 years before we can even get a glimpse of what he is trying to do with this team. What a fecking joke.
 
el3mel said:
Rodgers definitely has a better career than Ole so far. The guy has just got his first big job or something, and his previous experience were with Cardiff and Molde. Why is this poster banned ? If it's for that, sorry but that's very RAWKish.
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Because the fecking moron with the laughing smileys posts in the "Is the United forum safe to go into yet" thread with a bunch of other fecking morons.

Okay ban me too now. I'll open another account next season If I feel like.

Bye!
 
The thing that worries me the most isn’t Ole’s style of play nor the recent run of results. What worries me is that ever since SAF retired, we’ve made one dumb decision after another, and made so many knee-jerk decisions and signings that even Liverpool would be proud of. I don’t get the impression that any of the people at the top have any idea how to drag us out of the state we’re in, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon. None of the decisions seem like they’re well thought out, with the most recent being giving Ole the job based on a small set of games.

What’s the worst thing that could have happened if we waited till the end of the season to make a decision? I get that Ole is a legend and all, but he wasn’t exactly setting the world alight with his managerial career so why was he given that much responsibility ? I really want him be successful, but I’m really not sure he has what it takes to do so here. I hope he proves me wrong though.
 
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ErranMorad said:
Because the fecking moron with the laughing smileys posts in the "Is the United forum safe to go into yet" thread with a bunch of other fecking morons.

Okay ban me too now. I'll open another account next season If I feel like.

Bye!
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Nothing to do with why he’s banned, wind your neck in ffs
 
Before too long Ole won’t even be a club legend anymore.

You laugh - just wait. They’ve started already. Ungrateful gits.
 
Kammy26 said:
So what if he has had no signings or no preseason? Neither has Rodgers who joined Leicester barely two months ago, at least you can see what type of football he’s trying to play, they have a certain style and it’s totally different to the football Peul played, any decent manager would be able to implement a certain style within 4 months of coaching.

But yeah according to some fans ole needs to get rid of half the squad, a billion pound to spend and 3 years before we can even get a glimpse of what he is trying to do with this team. What a fecking joke.
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How were we doing after 2 months with Ole in charge again?

Numpty.
 
Bit worried now to say the least. Pogba is probably off to madrid. Martial looks frozen out.

With the problems we have, i dont think one transfer window would be enough.

Do you trust Ole or will he go the way of the previous managers?

Since ferguson retired, it has just been a comedy of errors.

Luckily we are the richest club in the world.
 
It's funny, I feel like to a certain extent we almost have to back him so that he can help us remove the players who are obviously useless. The dross simply can't survive another manager. If Ole helps get rid of them and sign fresh good players then I'd say job done. That's the kind of manager we need right now imo.
 
I don't understand how some fans can be so sure about Ole. He needs a summer, but we don't even know what kind of players he will be after, we're going into the unknown here. The coaching team have a lot of question marks over them. We don't know the style he wants to implement. There are concern for me, how can there not be?
 
abdo99 said:
Sarri and his team have been beaten by literally every other top 10 team on the road except us. We created nothing. Not a good performance with wasted chance. these can be defended but tactically poor game like this with questionable in game managing is cause for concern.
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Everyone was happy in the first half. So how was he tactically poor? How was his fault that de gea dropped a clanger? Or the fact that team couldn't last 90 mins without gassing or looking knackered. At least he was able to get them running in the first half before they looked knackered.

Some keep hammering on how Martial should have been introduced but this is the same Martial that most of our fans wanted to come off for Sanchez against Everton. Sanchez came in today and it should have been Martial? Or the claim that MCTominay shouldn't come in despite the midfield looking knackered already? Or the fact that MCTominay actually showed he cared in comparison to Martial's listless performance when he came on against city? There's nothing pleasing some of our fans.
 
Jonno said:
He’s trying to make changes and influences on the game, but sadly, our players aren’t good enough
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This, would help if pogba, lukaku, matic looked bothered. Lukaku is half way to Italy and pogba does go Madrid, he puts in a performance similar to Everton and the shite hankies will be out.
 
bleedred said:
But you were the one who talked about Leicester playing well. What makes you think that is sustainable, would they not fall off as well, like we have did?

If you think that in the beginning, it was new manager bounce/ Luck, then its natural to think Leicesters performances now are also the same, isn't.
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At least you can see what type of football Rodgers is trying to play, that L
Reapersoul20 said:
How were we doing after 2 months with Ole in charge again?

Numpty.
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I think your the numpty pal you obviously can’t understand English. My point is about the style of football not about results due to a manager bounce, why does Ole need a full pre season to show us what type of football he’s playing, why does he need to clear half the squad out and make new signings, is this squad inferior to Leicester’s squad?

Can’t we at least see what type of football he is trying to play? Is that so much to ask of someone who has coached a team for 4 months. I tell you what, you tell me what football Ole is playing what’s his style? To me it just looks Mourinho Mk2, even when we were getting good results apart from Cardiff and a couple of cup games I wasn’t impressed with the football we played.

Klopp, pep, Rodgers any decent manager these days needs a certain style. Please someone tell me wtf OGS is trying to do
 
vangagal said:
You are a strecth really. That fax thing didnt made him downed tool at all. He was sidelined for first 2 games and thats all. Never made a fuss about it afterall.
Running the deal down or we dont offer him serious enough? Pogba's run down next year and he havent sign yet. Herrera's up this summer. So does Mata but we offer Young, Smalling and Jones quickly enough? So what we do? We cash in on Pogba too?

Before this run of losses, he has good form. Remember Spurs one? Or Liverpool? He doesnt off form all season long.
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Obviously didn't read my posts, I said the fax incident is the reason he's still here, not the reason for his dip in form.

His dip in form I believe is simply a loss of reactions. I've a good mate who is a scout in England and he called it going into the season that his reflexes are gone and his decision making poor.

Pogba's deal doesn't finish til 2021, With another optional year so - 2022!! https://www.transfermarkt.com/paul-pogba/profil/spieler/122153

Reality is De Gea has had 2 renewals now and both times has run the clock down in a bid to force the clubs hand.

Here's our contract situation this summer and next btw.

 
What’s going on with this thread? So many meltdowns from both sides.

@amolbhatia50k summed it up nicely. I still have doubts over him tactically. It’s alright saying players fitness is not right. But we struggle to pass it against West Ham and Watford.

There’s no excuses for Huddersfield and Cardiff. We shouldn’t need fitness to beat these two teams.
 
Regarding Rodgers. He is in Leicester( worse team than United, i think that nobody can't dispute that) the same time as Ole is in United and his team was also with low morale when he came there. But still he implemented his style of play. Watching them you see attacking pattern. And that is my problem with Ole. Not that we lost 7 of 9...:drool::drool::drool: 7 of 9, Jerry Ryan...anyway what i wanted to say?
Ah, i know. Ole lost games. Fine. I really don't have problem with that or with playing in EL. But i don't see any pattern in our style. And that is the problem.
 
what was that sub about McTominay for Mata?!

wasnt able to effect the game in the second half
 
Basically the only argument I see why people are still blindly behind Ole is the first 10 games, completely ignoring what happened after or how we even played during these 10 games (quite a few of these results were lucky smash and grabs and even fecking big Sam starts well when he takes over mid season). Ole's in game management is hilariously bad, no changes he does mid game works. All our supposedly "good performances" like 1st half today are nothing more than running and trying while creating feck all. Our tactics are mostly baffling, we are 5 months in and have absolutely no idea what style of football we try to play. I absolutely do not believe that a few signings will change anything and how can we trust someone like Ole with a rebuilding job? Should we give Ole a free pass only because he is a legend? It surely looks like it because absolutely no one is talking about his managerial abilities, all arguments I can see why he is the right man for the job is... legend and... 10 games. Sums it up for me.
 
Rusholme Ruffian said:
hang on, so are you seriously saying that because you disagree with how Sarri has used Kante this season it makes Ole a better manager? That is borderline insane. :wenger:
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You probably forgotten the fact that Chelsea have better squad than us and more so, a world-class attacker in Hazard. Ole doesn't even have a world-class attacker in his team. His midfield and defence are filled with either lazy, average or deadwoods. Mourinho couldn't even get them playing yet you blame Ole?
 
Idk anymore, fitness is integral to being aggressive, moving and getting into good positions but not sure if I can't write it all down to lack of conditioning. More often than not we look beyond clueless, without any idea what to do and how to do it, we look scared.
 
Kammy26 said:
So what if he has had no signings or no preseason? Neither has Rodgers who joined Leicester barely two months ago, at least you can see what type of football he’s trying to play, they have a certain style and it’s totally different to the football Peul played, any decent manager would be able to implement a certain style within 4 months of coaching.

But yeah according to some fans ole needs to get rid of half the squad, a billion pound to spend and 3 years before we can even get a glimpse of what he is trying to do with this team. What a fecking joke.
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I watched Leicester today and was impressed.
Imagine playing for a manager that publicly criticised and mocked you, like what Mourinho did. What damage did that cause?
No one would have thought that top 4 was a possibility after the start we had.
Of course we need better players but Ole proved his man management skills with the brilliant turnaround we had.
Yes it's hard to defend so many defeats in a row but I think the players are unfit, injuries and loss of form for our best player, De Gea have also come at the wrong time.
Give Ole time to repair the damage caused post SAF. I'm convinced he will
 
Good first half. I thought we got our players back.

Shit second half - we got our players back and Ole is also back with shit tactics .
 
I don't know whats the confusion here but as things stand, Rodgers has proved a lot more than Ole. I would take Rodgers ahead of Ole now.
 
Fracture90 said:
Idk anymore, fitness is integral to being aggressive, moving and getting into good positions but not sure if I can't write it all down to lack of conditioning. More often than not we look beyond clueless, without any idea what to do and how to do it, we look scared.
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Pogue Mahone said:
Dunno why anyone would moan about bringing on McT. It allowed Pogba get forward and gave us more height in their box. It was McTominay that won the corner Pedro ended up heading off their line. Fine margins.
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Imo, because it was in final 7-8 minutes. We lost midfield battle long before that. He should read a game and bring another midfielder then. In last minutes you bring on attacker and go route one. I don't know, just thinking...
 
Kaglish10 said:
Everyone was happy in the first half. So how was he tactically poor? How was his fault that de gea dropped a clanger? Or the fact that team couldn't last 90 mins without gassing or looking knackered. At least he was able to get them running in the first half before they looked knackered.

Some keep hammering on how Martial should have been introduced but this is the same Martial that most of our fans wanted to come off for Sanchez against Everton. Sanchez came in today and it should have been Martial? Or the claim that MCTominay shouldn't come in despite the midfield looking knackered already? Or the fact that MCTominay actually showed he cared in comparison to Martial's listless performance when he came on against city? There's nothing pleasing some of our fans.
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Tactically poor because we didn't create feck all. The running is all well and good but where is the cohesion in the football? Like I said chelsea has been battered by every other team away including bournemouth and wolvers etc. did we even test the keeper? Good first 10 minutes with some nice linking ups and then nothing happened. I thought we might be battering them 3/4 nil because they will chase the match. And 2nd half was bizzare. Packing the midfield further when we needed a goal (and we didn't even have control of it)- his subs has been quesjtonable for a few games now either taking too long with it or sticking with favorite. Yes martial should've been introduced over Sanchez/McT. sanchez has scored the grand total of 2 goals this season. If he wanted midfield change it should happen early so we can take control again. Not the last 15 minutes.

I'm not ole out or anything but it's very worrying sign.
 
His record vs the top 10 is worse than Joses this season and thats worrying considering how shit we were for most parts of Joses infamous 3rd year.

3 wins, 3 draws and 3 losses for Jose.
3 wins, 2 draws and 4 losses for Ole.

Hes shown that we can put aside the poorers sides in the league albeit with some issues - Soton, Palace, Brighton, Newcastle, WHam werent easy games. However, is he good enough to compete with the upper half of the league? I'm not so sure.
 
Starting to want him gone, those post match comments are embarrassing De Gea has lost the club points repeatedly and Ole is saying he will still play the rest of the season. Absolute imbecile of a decision.

Gone by Christmas
 
This is textbook Souness - a legend, but one with no experience of managing at the top level. He managed Liverpool what for 4 years purely because he was a legend?

When it comes to managing criteria, being a legend should be way at the back of the line. It's stupid that we did the right thing in hiring an interim manager whilst we search for a top manager with an actual philosophy, only to then appoint said interim manager for 3 years which creates nothing but uncertainty and is more likely then not to end up in failure. A waste.
 
passing-wind said:
Starting to want him gone, those post match comments are embarrassing De Gea has lost the club points repeatedly and Ole is saying he will still play the rest of the season. Absolute imbecile of a decision.

Gone by Christmas
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There’s an imbecile about alright.

Why drop Dave now? For what purposes? He’s a top keeper going through a spell. He needs to get over it. The last two games will be easier. It makes complete sense what Ole said.
 
The club has been in turmoil since Fergie left. At the same time, Gill departed and Moyes got rid of the backroom staff who'd been keeping the club ticking over for a few seasons. It snowballed from there. The brain who ran the club and controlled everything was gone and with him the know-how. Enter a banker, a succession of managers, and commercial behemoth demanding to be fed the very best. So we went after names without much thought as to where they'd fit in.

At least Ole knows how it used to be at United and knows the standards we used to set. He must be amazed that many of the players wearing the shirt fall far short of them.
 
Minimalist said:
There’s an imbecile about alright.

Why drop Dave now? For what purposes? He’s a top keeper going through a spell. He needs to get over it. The last two games will be easier. It makes complete sense what Ole said.
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Agree. We are not talking about some random solid keeper. This is De gea. Until this season maybe best gk in the world.
 
bushyboy said:
I watched Leicester today and was impressed.
Imagine playing for a manager that publicly criticised and mocked you, like what Mourinho did. What damage did that cause?
No one would have thought that top 4 was a possibility after the start we had.
Of course we need better players but Ole proved his man management skills with the brilliant turnaround we had.
Yes it's hard to defend so many defeats in a row but I think the players are unfit, injuries and loss of form for our best player, De Gea have also come at the wrong time.
Give Ole time to repair the damage caused post SAF. I'm convinced he will
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Ole has also criticised the players albeit not to the extent Mourinho did but he has done and he will do it again.

I’m not bothered about the defeats, I am not even bothered about missing out on Europe we are not ready for it, what I am bothered with is what style of football is Ole playing? What are his tactics? What does he want to players to do? Apart from running around. Can you answer this question?

Only a foolish club would hire a manager without seeing his style of football, without even seeing how he responds to a couple of losses, this club is a joke at the moment.

Btw I don’t blame Ole he was one of my favourite players, I just don’t think he is capable of managing Manchester United. Before he was appointed no one would have considered him for United manager. Someone like Tuchel even marco rose would be great, at this point i would probably even take Rodgers haha I never thought I’d say that.
 
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