Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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With respect, you don't know what you're talking about.
Ole has done well since he took over, if he's able to get better players, we'll improve.
It all rests on the summer window, we need talented, dedicated players.

With respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

That’s easy to say.

What makes you think better players are going to want to come and play for Ole?
 
I'm just articulating the kind of planning our board should be doing. Your alternative is what, spend money we don't have to get players we can't attract in one summer to challenge City - potentially the best top flight English team ever (in terms of league points and performances). If you put together a combined XI for us and City, we might sneak in 1 player (Pogba) and even that would be arguable. So what do you suggest? We buy 10 players of City's calibre to compete with them next season? Cool, I'll have what you're having then.

A dose of realism would do people some good.
No, the plan should be first to implement a style of play which should be our go-to template. Then buy players to actually play that type of football. That does not mean buying players worth a billion pounds. If these pro footballers cannot be coached then either they aren't pros or the coaching staff is shite. I am inclined to think, seeing how we have played, that it's more the latter than the former.

Also your hope to let our competition turn to shite while we sneak up is hilarious to put it mildly. Imagine any major company saying that they will keep suffering losses while waiting for the actually profitable companies to go bankrupt. I am sure that's how rebuilds are supposed to be done. Not sure why SAF tried to take on Chelsea instead of waiting on them to turn to shite when Roman took over. Should have taken a leaf out of your "realism" book.
 
So, when Leicester play well with a new manager, its the manager changing tactics and when we played well under Ole, it was new manager bounce. Great logic there.

Leicester has Maddison and Tielesman. Two playmakers that would slot easily into our team and what more? an excellent striker and solid fullbacks!
 
''only because he was a club legend"

Nothing to do with dragging us in to a top 4 race that we didn't belong in.

Fergie never would've happened in this era with the shit fans we have.

you guys are intent on giving him credit for the winning run, yet he's absolved of any responsibility in this atrocious run.

Caught in an emotionally driven loop of trying to recreate Fergie/the good ol' Fergie days.
 
you guys are intent on giving him credit for the winning run, yet he's absolved of any responsibility in this atrocious run.

Caught in an emotionally driven loop of trying to replicate Fergie/the good ol' Fergie days.
Nobody said he's absolved form the poor form.

He deserves a window, training camp and full season.

These are gutless players that he didn't sign.
 
Dunno why anyone would moan about bringing on McT. It allowed Pogba get forward and gave us more height in their box. It was McTominay that won the corner Pedro ended up heading off their line. Fine margins.
Thought the same. Made total sense to me even at the time.
 
For this “we are only within a chance of top four because of Ole” nonsense, I say to you. This recent form is relegation form.. that’s all Ole as well.

Thanks in large part to our world class goalkeeper.

It’s a real shame for us and Ole in particular. If DDG had even half kept his normal standard up we’d have top four wrapped up already.

Say what you will about team selections and whatnot, but OGS brought us back from the dead. And if not for pub league form from our supposed best player between the sticks, he would’ve had us in a CL spot comfortably.
 
With respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

That’s easy to say.

What makes you think better players are going to want to come and play for Ole?
It's easy to say, but only one of us is right, I'll let you figure out who.
Players are always going to want to play for Manchester United, suggesting otherwise proves my original point.
 
Everyone has a problem with me because they don’t want to admit that deep down, they know that Ole will be gone by Christmas.
Don’t think he will. His status as a club legend will make it difficult for Ed to remove him.....remember the long drawn out final months of Jose? And he wasn’t even liked by senior figures inside the club
 
So far he doesn't look that kind of football coach. All he talks about is the physical nature of it. I would be surprised if we see a progressive style of football even after a change in personnel.

I agree. For some reason Ole seems to think football is only about running and fitness. Maybe that's why he was a backup striker.
 
I think what people are saying (or at least should be saying) regarding Rodgers and Leicester is that results aside, you can very clearly identify a style of play that he has brought to the club. Whereas people are finding it more difficult with Ole and yourselves.

It should be stated though that people wouldn't give a damn about Rodgers being able to stamp his style on the squad if results were similar to yours. They're simply angry at results - but like to dress it up in 100 different ways.
 
For this “we are only within a chance of top four because of Ole” nonsense, I say to you. This recent form is relegation form.. that’s all Ole as well.

Bollox is it relegation form.

The one and only relegation result would be getting spanked by Everton. All the rest are points we could have dropped in previous title winning seasons under Fergie.
 
Don’t think he will. His status as a club legend will make it difficult for Ed to remove him.....remember the long drawn out final months of Jose? And he wasn’t even liked by senior figures inside the club
This club legend status is getting a bit out of hand, hes not David Beckham ffs he was a substitute striker.
 
Nobody said he's absolved form the poor form.

He deserves a window, training camp and full season.

These are gutless players that he didn't sign.

He doesn't deserve shit, and these are the same supposed gutless players that went on the run that secured him the job.

he's Moyes with a "club legend" paint of coat and good interview soundbites, except Moyes managed in the Prem for over a decade and Ole already got exposed in the same league.
 
He did well today. He's at least showed he's better than Sarri and Sarri is a sound manager. People should get off his back already. Mourinho couldn't even get anything out of his own lazy squad.
Sarri and his team have been beaten by literally every other top 10 team on the road except us. We created nothing. Not a good performance with wasted chance. these can be defended but tactically poor game like this with questionable in game managing is cause for concern.
 
Rodgers definitely has a better career than Ole so far. The guy has just got his first big job or something, and his previous experience were with Cardiff and Molde. Why is this poster banned ? If it's for that, sorry but that's very RAWKish.
 
Pretty sure he called someone a bellend earlier, probably got banned for that.
Rodgers is a more accomplished manager than Solskjaer, which isn't surprising given the clubs they've managed.
 
Anyway it’s good to know it doesn’t matter that our players look knackered by half time. I was under the impression that’s a hinderance but I relax about that now I guess.

Ole just needs to get his finger out and out-tactic the feck out the league.
 
Good game until their goal, then we lacked rhythm and sharpness in the second half. It's been a miracle just to be in the fight for top-4 at this stage, so it's difficult to blame him for being out. Still +7 points to Arsenal since he came, +8 to Spurs and Chelsea, after being on three fronts for months and winning rounds in Cup and CL against Arsenal, Chelsea and PSG, so after all he's done a decent job in terms of results, like it or not.

There's margin to improve things obviously, his game management could be more influential, and he needs to be more ruthless with certain individuals. Then we lack patterns in attack, we rely far too much on wings and crosses and I miss more combinations and ellaborated attacks. Too many touches on the ball, I think because the mechanics off-the ball are not there yet so it takes time to identify potential passes at times.

I guess once he starts working in preseason he will prepare the team both physically and developing certain patterns on the ball, because these are the two areas that are killing us right now more than anything else. It would help also to release 'Rashy' to a second plane and stop giving him too much responsibilities, because he's not ready yet to depend much on him.

In conclusion well deserved chance for Solskjaer in my opinion, I share some concerns and criticisms but we'll see next season what he's made of in equal conditions with the rest of the competitors. These months he's been driving another man's car and we can debate if he did it better or worse, but now it starts a different new job about building and developing his own team so we'll see what he can do on this regard. I leave the door open for him to do well.
 
Because Rodgers is a better manager than Ole with a better track record and an identity.

Ole has nothing.

Why is this poster now banned? Is it because of this post Mods or other indiscretions?
 
This club legend status is getting a bit out of hand, hes not David Beckham ffs he was a substitute striker.
It carries weight with the fans and senior figures at the club and is very relevant when talking about sacking someone 6 months into a 3 year contract.
 
If you actually look at our league form I'd say only the Spurs result stands out the rest were all games we should have been easily winning anyway.

He's appointed now so think we just need to see how he does after a preseason and with some transfers.
 
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