Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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You’re an idiot if you think a bloke who benefited from a run of games against shit opposition and the fact he was anybody other than Jose Mourinho deserves to even get a transfer window with the chance of spending 200m plus.

I honestly really pity impetuous, hot-headed posts like this. I mean you've been a member here since 2013. 6 years to realise that four months isn't a long enough time to judge a manager. Still not quite clever enough to understand though.
 
Keep telling yourself this squad is the worst in this league, you might just believe it eventually. Fact is we have players who should be doing better than what we are. We look utterly clueless under Ole. We have no direction. Look at Leicester, BR has been there half the time and already you can see the way he wants to take them forward.

So, that's not new manager bounce now?.
 
One of the worst because I don’t buy in to the romantic bullshit like prats like you? Right...

You’re a fool.

I'm not buying into anything. OGS may prove to be an awful manager.

Who knows?

NOBODY.

He has only been given four months, so nobody knows.

People like you, impatient 12year old millenials who want to discard him at the first sight of any hardship are an embarrassing blight on this fanbase. An embarrassing blight with a fundamental misunderstanding of how great teams are built.

You'd think people would remember to have some patience after nearly sacking Fergie - guess a lot of our fanbase are too young to remember that now, as I would wager you are.
 
WTF? Do you think Jose would have got us top 4 OR EVEN CONTENDING … you are delusional! Ole has done amazing work and does not deserve the crap levelled at him by part time fans.

Jose did exactly that last season let’s not forget. What happened after that is what always happens at a club that Jose manages.

Ole has done amazing work? fecking hell standards really have dropped because of bellend fans like you.
 
I'm not buying into anything. OGS may prove to be an awful manager. Who knows? NOBODY. He has only been given four months, so nobody knows. People like you, impatient 12year old millenials who want to discard him at the first sight of any hardship are an embarrassing blight on this fanbase.

Might as well sticky that to the forum until next Xmas.
 
I honestly really pity impetuous, hot-headed posts like this. I mean you've been a member here since 2013. 6 years to realise that four months isn't a long enough time to judge a manager. Still not quite clever enough to understand though.

What part of “I never thought he was the right man for the job” don’t you understand? I never wanted him. Nothing he has done since has changed my opinion.
 
If you are willing to let someone who would have been nowhere near this job and got it only because he is a club's legend, even though we play some of the worst football in probably like 50 years, to do a rebuilding job then I am not sure who is an idiot.
''only because he was a club legend"

Nothing to do with dragging us in to a top 4 race that we didn't belong in.

Fergie never would've happened in this era with the shit fans we have.
 
Fact is after the first 30 mins Chelsea changed their setup and Ole had no clue after that.
 
Getting genuinely worried with each game. Love Ole and I know that we have a terrible group of average players, but still, something about this whole awful run tells me that this is too big of a job for Ole going forward. I really hope they back him properly during the summer and that he get's the players he needs, otherwise I can't see him lasting the season.
 
We need to decide what we want to be as a club. If it's leveraging our history and hopefully the standards set under our most successful period it makes sense to build up with people like Ole. If we want to be another Chelsea (spend tons, yoyo between being good and bad on the whims of players and managers who come and go) then we should keep doing what Ed's been doing.

Personally I'm happy enough to give Ole at least a pre-season and then the subsequent season to see what we can do. This squad needs a lot trimming, which is going to free up spaces and wages. As long as Ole looks to recruit young, hungry players I think we'll be alright.

In context of the medium term, we need to be laying foundations. City will lose Pep and a lot of their most crucial players in the next 1-3 seasons. Liverpool have basically had a season with no injuries to their best players, numerous fortuitous results and will regress next year (as we have done this year). Spurs will one day lose Poch, and at that point it all falls down. Chelsea need a huge rebuild and Abramovich can't enter the country. So maybe looking at this time next year, as long as we're improving we could be well placed to make a real run at it in 2021. I realise that's depressing, but that's how planning should be done.
This post made me laugh. So basically we should wait for our competition to become shite rather than actually elevate ourselves to their level. :lol:

No wonder we have started accepting mediocrity when fans talk like that.
 
I am in a mess because of what's happening to us. IDk how to trust Ole now, I don't know how 2 or 3 additions would make a difference for what he is trying to do but all I know, giving him the job was far too soon.
 
Club put itself in a horrible position hiring him when they did.

Not if they are already negotiating transfers. I'm sure that the players we want to get want know who the manager will be.

He has a direction that he wants to take the team, but the players are still too unfit and there are a few who are ill suited or lack the attitude to play his system, hence the regression.

Plus people should also recognise that you can't really account for your multiple times club player of the year goalkeeper chucking a goal a game in.
 
One of the worst because I don’t buy in to the romantic bullshit like prats like you? Right...

You’re a fool.

They think things will magically improve because of some mystical land of preseason and player purchases. Neglecting the fact shit managers in the last 6 years have meant shit continually irrespective of money or presasons. But Ole will be different because romance.
 
Getting genuinely worried with each game. Love Ole and I know that we have a terrible group of average players, but still, something about this whole awful run tells me that this is too big of a job for Ole going forward. I really hope they back him properly during the summer and that he get's the players he needs, otherwise I can't see him lasting the season.

As we continue this metamorphosis into the new Liverpool. A fallen giant, that spends big but stumbles from small trophy to relative obscurity, I get this terrible feeling that Ole will be our Souness.....
 
No.

He has completely transformed the way Leicester play. Us on the other hand look just as bad as we did under Jose.

So, when Leicester play well with a new manager, its the manager changing tactics and when we played well under Ole, it was new manager bounce. Great logic there.
 
Perfect caretaker. His fits what a caretaker manager should be following a crisis. Unfortunately and no disrespect to his legendary status he is completely
Out of depth with the task at hand. This job is a huge rebuild job.
 
This post made me laugh. So basically we should wait for our competition to become shite rather than actually elevate ourselves to their level. :lol:

No wonder we have started accepting mediocrity when fans talk like that.
I'm just articulating the kind of planning our board should be doing. Your alternative is what, spend money we don't have to get players we can't attract in one summer to challenge City - potentially the best top flight English team ever (in terms of league points and performances). If you put together a combined XI for us and City, we might sneak in 1 player (Pogba) and even that would be arguable. So what do you suggest? We buy 10 players of City's calibre to compete with them next season? Cool, I'll have what you're having then.

A dose of realism would do people some good.
 
What worries is me is that Ole's default tactic is to have us try to open up teams in 2-3 passes usually involving long balls. It looks nice when it works (first half hour today) but I'm afraid there's no top team that isn't capable of dominating through quality possession play, and I'm not seeing Ole trying to inculcate that at all.

His focus appears to be on
  • High tempo
  • Direct, often long, passing
  • Not much emphasis of possession play and opening teams up through short intricate passing
  • Pace, physicality and stamina

I could be wrong but I am genuinely worried that when we need to move towards the City's and Barcelona's of this world, we appear to be headed in the opposite direction

I hope Ole through his signings allays these fears. But if we're targeting players like Rice that everyone wants, I fear we'll never be headed in the direction we need to

So far he doesn't look that kind of football coach. All he talks about is the physical nature of it. I would be surprised if we see a progressive style of football even after a change in personnel.
 
So, when Leicester play well with a new manager, its the manager changing tactics and when we played well under Ole, it was new manager bounce. Great logic there.

He's completely transformed Leicester. They might even dream of PL glory one day.
 
So, when Leicester play well with a new manager, its the manager changing tactics and when we played well under Ole, it was new manager bounce. Great logic there.

Ole hasn’t changed anything though has he? We look just as poor as we did under Jose apart from the odd 20 mins here and there.
 
They think things will magically improve because of some mystical land of preseason and player purchases. Neglecting the fact shit managers in the last 6 years have meant shit continually irrespective of money or presasons. But Ole will be different because romance.

Only part time fans think like this.
 
''only because he was a club legend"

Nothing to do with dragging us in to a top 4 race that we didn't belong in.

Fergie never would've happened in this era with the shit fans we have.
Yeah, new manager bounce combined with very favourable fixtures was great, wasn't it? For 1 Fergie there are million Moyeses and we just got ourselves another Moyes. He is clueless, why is it that difficult to admit for some of you as if he was your family member? Our form is atrocious, people saying we played well today have their standards set as relegation team's. Why the hell would anyone want our rebuilding job be done by a completely inexperienced manager who doesn't even have his own ideas and is trying to be a clone of SAF? I don't think there would be a single person on this forum who would want that to happen if we had some random guy instead of Ole right now.
 
Ole hasn’t changed anything though has he? We look just as poor as we did under Jose apart from the odd 20 mins here and there.

But you were the one who talked about Leicester playing well. What makes you think that is sustainable, would they not fall off as well, like we have did?

If you think that in the beginning, it was new manager bounce/ Luck, then its natural to think Leicesters performances now are also the same, isn't.
 
What's this top 4 we shouldnt be a part of?

Arsenal & Chelsea have consistently been as bad as us - it was always capable;especially when looking at these teams last performances.
 
Yeah, new manager bounce combined with very favourable fixtures was great, wasn't it? For 1 Fergie there are million Moyeses and we just got ourselves another Moyes. He is clueless, why is it that difficult to admit for some of you as if he was your family member? Our form is atrocious, people saying we played well today have their standards set as relegation team's. Why the hell would anyone want our rebuilding job be done by a completely inexperienced manager who doesn't even have his own ideas and is trying to be a clone of SAF? I don't think there would be a single person on this forum who would want that to happen if we had some random guy instead of Ole right now.
Beat Arsenal, Chelsea, PSG and Spurs away. Drew with Pool home.

'favourable fixtures'
 
For this “we are only within a chance of top four because of Ole” nonsense, I say to you. This recent form is relegation form.. that’s all Ole as well.
 
Yeah, new manager bounce combined with very favourable fixtures was great, wasn't it? For 1 Fergie there are million Moyeses and we just got ourselves another Moyes. He is clueless, why is it that difficult to admit for some of you as if he was your family member? Our form is atrocious, people saying we played well today have their standards set as relegation team's. Why the hell would anyone want our rebuilding job be done by a completely inexperienced manager who doesn't even have his own ideas and is trying to be a clone of SAF? I don't think there would be a single person on this forum who would want that to happen if we had some random guy instead of Ole right now.

LVG and Jose had 50 years of experience among them.
 
They didn't have to. They came for the draw. We were maybe slightly better team in the first half but again we didn't manage to create pretty much anything apart from the goal. Second half was a disgrace, absolutely no desire to score and the last substitution pretty much confirms that.

The substitution was one to regain control of the match which was something we needed. We couldn't score and neither could they. Fair enough. Why blame Ole for this when "world class serial winner" Mourinho had the exact same problems with this squad. Makes absolutely no sense
 
He did well today. He's at least showed he's better than Sarri and Sarri is a sound manager. People should get off his back already. Mourinho couldn't even get anything out of his own lazy squad.
 
He is legend because he was a great player. That doesn’t give him the right to manage this club.

He was the wrong man at the time, he will be gone before Christmas and the likes of you will have egg on your faces when those of us who have said this all along are proved right.
With respect, you don't know what you're talking about.
Ole has done well since he took over, if he's able to get better players, we'll improve.
It all rests on the summer window, we need talented, dedicated players.
 
But you were the one who talked about Leicester playing well. What makes you think that is sustainable, would they not fall off as well, like we have did?

If you think that in the beginning, it was new manager bounce/ Luck, then its natural to think Leicesters performances now are also the same, isn't.

Because Rodgers is a better manager than Ole with a better track record and an identity.

Ole has nothing.
 
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