Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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His in game management is bloody awful though. Didn't need a master degree in football to realize it ever sine a 1 or 2 months ago.

His subs are crap and also very late.

It's really Groundhog day for us.
 
passing-wind said:
that's never going to happen, Jose has more pedigree as a manager and it was two seasons more or less and he's out the door. If the team isn't playing well and results by Christmas are woeful, Ole will follow suit and be out the door.
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But we shouldn't have to endure him up to then. No one is going to want to come to play under him without CL. If you are De ligt, Sancho, Felix, Rodri, you would be a fool to come play for us under Ole.
 
Ole's trying his best. He needs to be given a season like LvG and Jose before him.

He was brought in to make the best of a shit situation and has taken this team as far as it can.

Changes are imminent this summer, and the sooner they happen the better.
 
haram said:
How about show some fecking balls and drop de Gea. It’s not even a difficult decision to make.
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I don't understand why he doesn't do it? Is he scared to hurt DDG's feelings or he doesn't trust Romero? What kind of message does it send to anyone on the bench - no matter how shite the starter is playing, you won't get a look in? What's the point in having a squad if you cannot drop out of form players!

DDG is old enough to understand this and perhaps it will help him refocus and come back better.
 
lsd said:
The reason we won't be in the champions league next season is down to Mourinho and the players no one else .

To even suggest it's the fault of Ole is shocking
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I agree. It doesn’t make Solskjaer in any way qualified for the job though. He’s a mascot.
 
NK86 said:
I don't understand why he doesn't do it? Is he scared to hurt DDG's feelings or he doesn't trust Romero? What kind of message does it send to anyone on the bench - no matter how shite the starter is playing, you won't get a look in? What's the point in having a squad if you cannot drop out of form players!

DDG is old enough to understand this and perhaps it will help him refocus and come back better.
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He’s a complete bluffer.
 
Greck said:
The bolded worries me immensely. The build up is direct and lacking in method. PL has come a long way from playing end to end for 90 minutes. We are going to Continue getting thoroughly outplayed if he doesn't adopt a more methodical philosophy than playing fast and running hard
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And say you're up against a superior team you have to get your tactics spot on to win the game, an area where Ole seem clueless at. You can't just run your socks off against Barcelona and win, they will simply outplay you.
 
Give over with this "needs his players" tripe. There's enough there to implement something half decent resembling football.
Rodgers has done it at Leicester. Every manager everywhere shows something of what they're trying to achieve. All I'm seeing with Ole is cliches and a little kid out of his depth.

This guy is Moyes all over again: instead of "back the manager" it's "back the legend".

Get him out. No chances like Moyes, Lingard, Jones. No waiting for them to come good.
 
Again, no blame goes his way today. Tactics and performance in the first half especially was perfect. The error deflated us, and then second half was just endless fouls and injuries from everyone so nobody could build any momentum.
 
I generally read posts on here and very rarely post.

However, I’m disgusted at the way that some fans treat Ole, a club legend.

What have we seen the past seven or so years, the same old dross we’ve seen year on year.

Each and every manager and the same problems are persisting. Yet somehow it’s Ole’s fault. Give me a break!

I’m sticking behind the manager, he’s barely had a chance to put his stamp on things and people are ALREADY, calling for his head. After less than 6months. How on earth is he meant to make change in 6months?!

Pep had a poor season by his own standards in his first year. The following year, once he had all his own players in and got rid of deadwood and had a pre-season with them. Totally different squad.

Same with Klopp. It took time!

The things our fans do and the fickle nature in which it seems they support the club, just totally and utterly smacks of entitlement.

We are not as good as we used to be. We won’t win as much as we used to. We are simply not the force we used to be anymore & that’s a fact. But we won’t get there again if we don’t support the manager.

There’s players in that team that will be sold and replaced by players that Ole wants.

How on earth can we expect change in 6months when we had Jose in charge for 2 years. 2 years of instilling his way of playing into the players minds.

Ole is going to need TIME & us as fans should get off our high horse that we need to win everything and we deserve top 4 just because we are “MANCHESTER UNITED” - no one cares about Man Utd anymore.

Why?

No one is scared of us anymore. Literally no one.

Old Trafford is no longer the fortress it used to be.

Ask yourself this, do you really think we can attract the big name already established names to this club over city? Really?

We will get back to our roots of signing young players with tons of potential and coach them into world beaters.

However, that will take a lot longer than 6months. Especially after 7years of mediocrity.

Our fans need to get out of this entitled mentality and get behind this team. We won’t get anywhere if we’re always on the teams back.

/RantOver.
 
He's dragged us into a top 4 fight none of us ever expected to be in when he took over. I'm as pissed off as the next guy, that from the position we got ourselves into, we've not managed to make it. However, you can clearly see the players aren't fit enough, and lots aren't United quality. Let's at least see how we look next season before judging too harshly.
 
We need to decide what we want to be as a club. If it's leveraging our history and hopefully the standards set under our most successful period it makes sense to build up with people like Ole. If we want to be another Chelsea (spend tons, yoyo between being good and bad on the whims of players and managers who come and go) then we should keep doing what Ed's been doing.

Personally I'm happy enough to give Ole at least a pre-season and then the subsequent season to see what we can do. This squad needs a lot trimming, which is going to free up spaces and wages. As long as Ole looks to recruit young, hungry players I think we'll be alright.

In context of the medium term, we need to be laying foundations. City will lose Pep and a lot of their most crucial players in the next 1-3 seasons. Liverpool have basically had a season with no injuries to their best players, numerous fortuitous results and will regress next year (as we have done this year). Spurs will one day lose Poch, and at that point it all falls down. Chelsea need a huge rebuild and Abramovich can't enter the country. So maybe looking at this time next year, as long as we're improving we could be well placed to make a real run at it in 2021. I realise that's depressing, but that's how planning should be done.
 
We should really consider sacking him and find a new manager. Really worrying if we are going to be in a massive rebuilt with him in charge.
 
Wow! People putting this on the guy that inherited this team from a narcissistic has-been that declared the season over in mid-December is amazing … because we might not get top four! Seriously, do you think he could possibly anticipate the DdG screw-up or Atkinson's more than generous refereeing?
 
Dec9003 said:
Happens mate, a bunch plastic fans not willing to have any patience, even for a club legend.
It would've been the same no matter who was the manager, take no notice.
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He is legend because he was a great player. That doesn’t give him the right to manage this club.

He was the wrong man at the time, he will be gone before Christmas and the likes of you will have egg on your faces when those of us who have said this all along are proved right.
 
Mister_Stubbs said:
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Nope. If you want a manager gone after only four months in charge, when they have performed reasonably well and haven't had a chance to sign any players or get any pre-season behind the team then you are an idiot. Simple as.
 
bosnian_red said:
Again, no blame goes his way today. Tactics and performance in the first half especially was perfect. The error deflated us, and then second half was just endless fouls and injuries from everyone so nobody could build any momentum.
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Don't be daft. He told them to look tired as feck in the second half - that was his tactics - he's Moyes MkXII.
 
Mister_Stubbs said:
He is legend because he was a great player. That doesn’t give him the right to manage this club.

He was the wrong man at the time, he will be gone before Christmas and the likes of you will have egg on your faces when those of us who have said this all along are proved right.
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You're one of the worst posters on this forum.

Nobody is saying he is perfect for the job. We're saying that anyone who has already judged him and wants him to leave - with NONE OF HIS OWN SIGNINGS, playing with NO PRESEASON, and inheriting the team halfway through a season - is a complete and total imbecile.
 
I don't really care what he does in the training and all that shit. The worrying fact for me is that he's still starting Young when he could start Dalot, that he's still starting Matić when he could play McTomminay, that he hasn't dropped DDG despite costing us weekly now for over a month I presume and that we're still chopping and changing systems week in week out.
 
Minimalist said:
Don't be daft. He told them to look tired as feck in the second half - that was his tactics - he's Moyes MkXII.
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Definitely told de gea to drop a shot from their centerback from 35 yards out right in front of their players' feet.
 
SqueakyWeasel said:
Wow! People putting this on the guy that inherited this team from a narcissistic has-been that declared the season over in mid-December is amazing! Seriously, do you think he could possibly anticipate the DdG screw-up or Atkinson's more than generous refereeing?
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Keep telling yourself this squad is the worst in this league, you might just believe it eventually. Fact is we have players who should be doing better than what we are. We look utterly clueless under Ole. We have no direction. Look at Leicester, BR has been there half the time and already you can see the way he wants to take them forward.
 
Club put itself in a horrible position hiring him when they did.
 
He hasn't got a clue let's be honest here, it was nice while it lasted but now the pressure is on it seems he really doesn't know how to approach these important matches. We look clueless in possession and don't seem to have a plan when going forward with the ball. It's obvious that amazing run when he first took charge of the team got us all excited and of course back into contention for a top four finish but it seems as soon as the pressure was on and we faced our first major hurdles it has all collapsed and the whole demeanour around the club has changed also.

Putting both what Ole and Mike mean to this club aside, if I had told you all a few months ago that our grand plan to rebuild this club was to hire a Norwegian league Manager on a permanent basis and a Director of Football who not only comes from the Australian league but wasn't even considered for the role until recently then many would of laughed at this notion. I just feel as a club we have no plan and that not only stems from the manager, coaches and players but importantly from the board as well.

I would of been all for hiring Ole as a permanent manager when Sir Alex retired as I do think he had potential to be a great fit for the role and that was the perfect point to hire someone connected to the club like him. He could of also been given the time to settle into the role and learn with the full support from the fans, a connection that Moyes lacked. At this moment though, it has been over five years since winning the league and we are slipping further and further into mediocrity. Why Moyes was given the job instead was baffling and we have tried two different managers after that who also did not work.

At this point I think we need someone who can at least stabilise this club and build an identity. Pochettino would be an ideal candidate and was someone I wanted the job to go to as I would of also brought in Paul Mitchell as a Director of Football at the club. This is a relationship we all know works at the highest level and has proved to be a success before. The lack of trophies not won over Potchettino's career is of course a concern however he has constantly performed well at every club and level he has managed at. Combining that with a Director of Football who he has a great relationship with and who has also performed exceptionally throughout his career I think would of at least brought a stable foundation to the footballing side of the club.
 
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Reapersoul20 said:
Nope. If you want a manager gone after only four months in charge, when they have performed reasonably well and haven't had a chance to sign any players or get any pre-season behind the team then you are an idiot. Simple as.
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If you are willing to let someone who would have been nowhere near this job and got it only because he is a club's legend, even though we play some of the worst football in probably like 50 years, to do a rebuilding job then I am not sure who is an idiot.
 
It's not about giving him time or a summer to buy his players. It's obvious that he is not the man to lead our major rebuild. He has no identity or fixed style of play to change the club like Kloop, Pep and Poch. The signs are there and after the honeymoon period the performance was terrible. It was the same feeling under Moyes, LVG and Jose. It was also proven that given more time to these managers only led to more miserable time.
 
Reapersoul20 said:
Nope. If you want a manager gone after only four months in charge, when they have performed reasonably well and haven't had a chance to sign any players or get any pre-season behind the team then you are an idiot. Simple as.
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You’re an idiot if you think a bloke who benefited from a run of games against shit opposition and the fact he was anybody other than Jose Mourinho deserves to even get a transfer window with the chance of spending 200m plus.
 
If the turned around in form was down to ole, us not making top 4 from the brink of being in top 4 is also on him with his poor selection in last 3-4 games.

Benching an in form Mctominay and playing pogba deeper, while keep playing atrocious form de gea are massive decisions he got wrong after the Liverpool game and we have payed the price for it.
 
The only mistake Ole has made in my opinion is not dropping De Gea before today.
 
Reapersoul20 said:
Nope. If you want a manager gone after only four months in charge, when they have performed reasonably well and haven't had a chance to sign any players or get any pre-season behind the team then you are an idiot. Simple as.
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Mister_Stubbs said:
Keep telling yourself this squad is the worst in this league, you might just believe it eventually. Fact is we have players who should be doing better than what we are. We look utterly clueless under Ole. We have no direction. Look at Leicester, BR has been there half the time and already you can see the way he wants to take them forward.
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WTF? Do you think Jose would have got us top 4 OR EVEN CONTENDING … you are delusional! Ole has done amazing work and does not deserve the crap levelled at him by part time fans.
 
Reapersoul20 said:
You're one of the worst posters on this forum.

Nobody is saying he is perfect for the job. We're saying that anyone who has already judged him and wants him to leave - with NONE OF HIS OWN SIGNINGS, playing with NO PRESEASON, and inheriting the team halfway through a season - is a complete and total imbecile.
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One of the worst because I don’t buy in to the romantic bullshit like prats like you? Right...

You’re a fool.
 
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