Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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Those 3 players were leaving regardless IMO. It's not like it was this sudden run of form that convinced them they want to leave. There were rumors for ages and it's just close to the end of the season so naturally things will reach a peak.

Yeah, Ole can fail here. Anyone can. But there was as much of a risk appointing him as pretty much anyone. We'll see how it plays out. There is literally no point in fearing the worst and then talking about that as if it will for sure happen when theres no telling what will happen. We'll see how the summer goes. We'll see how our squad looks with a pre season with Ole in charge, and we'll see how the season goes. It's unfair to judge him this season too harshly, especially considering his overall impact has been very positive and we're still in a position that 4 months ago all of us would have taken without hesitation. It's important to not lose sight of that.
I only know what Pobga said during the good run of form, he sais he was happy with the new coach and happy at Man United. It's all speculation but the facts are what they are, we've only extended contracts of shit players and our better ones haven't or won't. It ain't a coincidence, we cannot just say they were leaving, it's like trying to convince ourselves that our terrible run of form could have zero impact on it and I don't buy that.

Why does it work against him that he managed Molde?

Zidane and Pep managed reserve teams before taking over at Madrid and Barca. Was it more appealing for the players?
Without a doubt yes. Specially in Zidane who has been working as an assitant to Ancelotti and had a great career at Real Madrid. Pep didn't even sign many players his first season and after it finished amazingly, his name was up there.
OGS isn't starting from the same point so players can be skeptical, specially those who don't know much about his career.
 
Doesn't that make it more, rather than less, likely that we explored other options but couldn't fine one better than Ole?

Pogue, I know you are playing devil's advocate here and rightly so, But I must say do you really think our club does due diligence before making big decisions? :D

I'm behind Ole, but at the same time I don't think for one minute the club even bothered approaching anyone other than Poch. Ole fit the profile of the Glazers perfectly; Cheap, Knows the club inside out, Can call on Fergie if need be and probably wouldn't demand the kind of money in the transfer window as a Poch or Jose would of.
 
I only know what Pobga said during the good run of form, he sais he was happy with the new coach and happy at Man United. It's all speculation but the facts are what they are, we've only extended contracts of shit players and our better ones haven't or won't. It ain't a coincidence, we cannot just say they were leaving, it's like trying to convince ourselves that our terrible run of form could have zero impact on it and I don't buy that.


Without a doubt yes. Specially in Zidane who has been working as an assitant to Ancelotti and had a great career at Real Madrid. Pep didn't even sign many players his first season and after it finished amazingly, his name was up there.
OGS isn't starting from the same point so players can be skeptical, specially those who don't know much about his career.
He said he was happy at United with Ole but also never ruled out any moves. The contractual issues all started long before we lost form. They were there during our good run. Maybe they were open to negotiating, but we just couldn't agree a deal financially that they wanted? Regardless I think its beyond ridiculous to put their contract situations down to Ole in any way. That is down t the club and previous managers, not somebody who has been here for 3 months and had a positive impact overall.
 
But do you think they're more likely to commit to the ex Molde manager?

Now we've lost a game, it's suddenly "failed Cardiff manager", and "Only Molde"

It's incredible how the narrative can change.

We need the season to finish asap. If it's having scraped top 4, amazing, but either way really.
We're empty, and there's way too much uncertainty In the squad.
 
Doesn't that make it more, rather than less, likely that we explored other options but couldn't fine one better than Ole?

No way. Look at the decisions we've made of the last few years. All stink of incompetency. Why would this be any different?
 
I only know what Pobga said during the good run of form, he sais he was happy with the new coach and happy at Man United. It's all speculation but the facts are what they are, we've only extended contracts of shit players and our better ones haven't or won't. It ain't a coincidence, we cannot just say they were leaving, it's like trying to convince ourselves that our terrible run of form could have zero impact on it and I don't buy that.


Without a doubt yes. Specially in Zidane who has been working as an assitant to Ancelotti and had a great career at Real Madrid. Pep didn't even sign many players his first season and after it finished amazingly, his name was up there.
OGS isn't starting from the same point so players can be skeptical, specially those who don't know much about his career.

Players will very rarely admit they';re not happy and want out though.
We all remember Ronaldo's "I stay" famous line.
 
No way. Look at the decisions we've made of the last few years. All stink of incompetency. Why would this be any different?

You may not like the decisions but we've no evidence there wasn't any forward planning put into them. Van Gaal swears blind we'd basically already offered Mourinho the job long before his final game in charge. You'd have to be very naive to think Ole was offered the job without reaching out to any other potential candidates first.
 
You may not like the decisions but we've no evidence there wasn't any forward planning put into them. Van Gaal swears blind we'd basically already offered Mourinho the job long before his final game in charge. You'd have to be very naive to think Ole was offered the job without reaching out to any other potential candidates first.

I would expect to have read something in the press about any approaches to other candidates. Stuff like that gets leaked all the time.
 
Doesn't that make it more, rather than less, likely that we explored other options but couldn't fine one better than Ole?

That's not United of the past few years, Pogue. They just found him winning and without even giving themselves chance to evaluate at the end of the season they threw the contract. We threw contracts at players for playing well in a run of matches, and and we gave Mourinho an extension midway in a season. We are just like that.
 
You may not like the decisions but we've no evidence there wasn't any forward planning put into them. Van Gaal swears blind we'd basically already offered Mourinho the job long before his final game in charge. You'd have to be very naive to think Ole was offered the job without reaching out to any other potential candidates first.
Not so much naive as curious to know how many were approached and turned us down before we just went with Ole.
 
Not so much naive as curious to know how many were approached and turned us down before we just went with Ole.

That's the million dollar question, isn't it? At the end of the day, Woodward's reputation has taken a hammering after getting the managerial appointment wrong three times in a row. Reputation aside, he'll be dying inside from signing off so much money on transfers for so little return. I don't like the guy and hate it when he interferes in the footballing side of things but one thing I am willing to give him credit for is not hiring Ole on an impulse, without any due diligence. That wouldn't be in his nature. That's not the style of someone who has been so succesful at bringing in money in to the club since he took over as CEO. Due diligence is literally a financial concept, after all!
 
You may not like the decisions but we've no evidence there wasn't any forward planning put into them. Van Gaal swears blind we'd basically already offered Mourinho the job long before his final game in charge. You'd have to be very naive to think Ole was offered the job without reaching out to any other potential candidates first.

Almost as naive as thinking that giving a man the job that wasn't even available a few months ago (and had signed a long term cotnract with Chelsea) is 'forward planning'.
 
Would Pep Guardiola ever play 5 at the back? Or Real Madrid/Barcelona? Even Liverpool never play it.

Ole has shown he will go down the negative, we must nullify the opposition style of Mourinho rather than make us the the team to worry about.
 
I've seen stupid posts on this forum to help further their own view, some even claimed spurs to be a big club just to justify Poch's ability to manage a big club But the bold part on another level of stupid.

If you cannot figure out why we have to give a manger pre season/transfer window and be ruthless with our players then I feel for you, life must be hard.
Go ahead and support Solksjaer. See us waste another year buying a set of players and then sacking him December to get another clueless manager.

It's the same pattern with LvG and Mourinho, sign a bunch of players, a decent start, no serious problems fixed, again asking time for players to gel, find out that manager is crap, hound him out and so on. The same saga will continue for Solksjaer also.

Oh and Solksjaer won't get to replace the entire squad, just like Mourinho didn't get to, he has to start coaching the squad, do you really think four months is not enough for a manager to coach at least the basics into the squad? If these four months aren't enough then how does a month of pre-season going to help?
 
Not so much naive as curious to know how many were approached and turned us down before we just went with Ole.

It's pretty likely that Pochettino would have been discretely sounded out - especially given that Fergie is big fan. I've no idea who else.
 
Now we've lost a game, it's suddenly "failed Cardiff manager", and "Only Molde"

It's incredible how the narrative can change.

We need the season to finish asap. If it's having scraped top 4, amazing, but either way really.
We're empty, and there's way too much uncertainty In the squad.
It's not lost one game is it though? We have lost a bunch.
 
A question for all the "back Ole no matter what" brigade.

If we hadn't stupidly announced him as manager, would you be asking for Solksjaer to be given the job after this horrendous run or would you have waited until the end of the season?
 
A question for all the "back Ole no matter what" brigade.

If we hadn't stupidly announced him as manager, would you be asking for Solksjaer to be given the job after this horrendous run or would you have waited until the end of the season?
Think it'll be crickets for a bit on that.
 
A question for all the "back Ole no matter what" brigade.

If we hadn't stupidly announced him as manager, would you be asking for Solksjaer to be given the job after this horrendous run or would you have waited until the end of the season?

I’m on neither side, but my answer would be «no».
 
It's not lost one game is it though? We have lost a bunch.

Yep. 7 out of 9 sounds dreadful. But when you bear in mind 3 were Barcelona and City, then you have Wolves and Arsenal aways in there too, possibly PSG home in there too? These are some tough games, it's just sods law it's in one big batch.

Everton away not in the same league of toughness in theory, but I've always thought Everton away is still a tough game. We've lost there a few times in recent years, and comfortably.
 
He said he was happy at United with Ole but also never ruled out any moves. The contractual issues all started long before we lost form. They were there during our good run. Maybe they were open to negotiating, but we just couldn't agree a deal financially that they wanted? Regardless I think its beyond ridiculous to put their contract situations down to Ole in any way. That is down t the club and previous managers, not somebody who has been here for 3 months and had a positive impact overall.
I never put anything down to Ole. Just said that it's not a coïncidence we renewed terrible players and not our best ones for whatever reason. It makes sense for bigger players to wait for the picture to be fully clearer before taking a final stance.
 
Does anyone here feel that after the first hair dryer treatment the squad got from Solskjaer they turned against him.

We were doing great right until the first loss against Wolves. Then read that the team got the Hair Dryer from Solskjaer and deservedly so.

From that day on I see disinterest, no passion and no effort. There are 2 explanations from this.

Either the team does not like being told and criticised harshly acting like spoiled kids.

Or think that they already threw one manager that did that, therefore any manager that comes along and mistreats them we will do the same. (until he gets kicked out)

The opinion that these players are not talented enough does not convince me because in 2 months we have all seen what this team is capable of if they have the mood to play.

Now surely they have the talent, but they surely dont have the character to play for United.
 
A question for all the "back Ole no matter what" brigade.

If we hadn't stupidly announced him as manager, would you be asking for Solksjaer to be given the job after this horrendous run or would you have waited until the end of the season?
Absolutely. I'd give him the contract today just so I can watch you moan for another year.
 
Go ahead and support Solksjaer. See us waste another year buying a set of players and then sacking him December to get another clueless manager.

It's the same pattern with LvG and Mourinho, sign a bunch of players, a decent start, no serious problems fixed, again asking time for players to gel, find out that manager is crap, hound him out and so on. The same saga will continue for Solksjaer also.

Oh and Solksjaer won't get to replace the entire squad, just like Mourinho didn't get to, he has to start coaching the squad, do you really think four months is not enough for a manager to coach at least the basics into the squad? If these four months aren't enough then how does a month of pre-season going to help?

Me calling your post stupid wasn't based on supporting or being against Ole but it was based on your lack of intelligence since you thought We don't need to be ruthless with these players, who have been crap for a while now but we should be ruthless with a manager we hired few weeks ago but not these players who have been crap for previous 2 managers.

Regardless of who the new manager is, they all need players they want. Whether that's pep/klopp or big sam. So i am not sure why you think we shouldn't give him a transfer window, which is just plain stupid since we hired him. Well we did get LVG and Jose (unless you think they were clueless), they didn't really work out and jose had 4 transfer windows to get rid of these useless players but he made them his Favourites and its not because he didn't get to sell them. Why would we need to replace the entire squad as we do have some good players (De gea/pogba/shaw/rashford/martial/Victor) and add more quality players into that group then we can have a squad which is capable of performing consistently.

We did start to play decent before the players started to drop like flies and surprisingly a pre season helps with fitness (who knew?) which we need if we're to play high intensity football (unless you're playing FM) and doing that when you've got players who were last in terms of running stats is difficult while playing 2 games a week, since you can get muscle injuries as we did.

That statement is pretty stupid just like the one in your original post I replied to and once again it doesn't have anything to do with supporting Ole or being against him but just the sheer lack of intelligence of that bold part, unless you can tell the future (well....you can't even understand why we need to be ruthless with our useless players, so i am going with no, you can't tell the future but just making stuff up :rolleyes:).
 
Did you know that Everton havent conceded against Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and United in the past 1.5 months? 3 wins and 1 draw? Theyre a good side. Obviously we shouldnt be losing 4-0 to anyone, but shit results and performances will happen to everyone on occasion. No use in getting hung up on it.
Please not the excuses with this. Yes, Everton can be solid on their day. But we got fecking rinsed by them, and our players didn't even look like they cared about the game. It was one of the worst United performances I've ever seen, and with top four on the line it was just completely shocking.

Players and Ole deserve blame for that shower of shite.
 
But do you think they're more likely to commit to the ex Molde manager?

One thing that we have not really spoken about, and apology if I have missed it is a managers ability to improve players.

It is one thing to scout and identify and ultimately sign a player but it is another thing to then improve them as a player.

Pep has shown that this is one thing that he has done exceptionally well at City.
Almost every player is much improved since they have been there.
Very few other managers are able to or have done that.

For United to be able to compete at the highest level, it is not just about the players he signs but how much he can then improve them.
 
His timing of subs is constantly awful. Just doesn’t react and not proactive.
Yeah it's been a recurring theme. top in game managing is a trait of the best managers but some had shown improvement in it.
 
Does anyone here feel that after the first hair dryer treatment the squad got from Solskjaer they turned against him.

I think so yes, but it whiffs of the new, or substitute teacher who goes into a new class and tries to be the student' best friend, cooler, and kinder than the old bat (that would be Jose) he's replaced.

But by not stamping (metaphor!) his authority over the students from the very beginning he ironically ends up enemies with them (blowing up and then having them turn on him), whereas had he kept control from the very start, eventually he could have eased up, and become on friendlier terms without even (or more rarely) needing to bollock anyone.

But to be fair to the players a little, looking at the games recently, the tactics look way off even to me as a layman.

Team can barely get a shot on goal (goals are extinct) and the forwards are utterly isolated going forward. Kinda reminds me of a game I play that simulates blitzkrieg (GGWITE) whereby if you send your tanks too far forward with too little support, they end up getting cut off from supply lines, surrounded and eventually obliterated.

I think Rashford, Lukaku and others are getting too much blame, as they are just not getting proper support or service from the midfield/defence. Far too cautious. Counter attacks, at half strength for fear of counter, counter attacks...

Worse than that though, is the constant chopping, and changing, which will surely piss alot of the players off, and set them against not only the manager, but each other as well.

It also makes him look like he doesn't know what he's doing. Like the old saying goes sometimes, more is lost by indecision than the wrong decision. Just pick a team, and let it settle down and get used to playing together.
I wonder sometimes if Ole is trying to keep everyone happy, knowing that he musn't lose the dressing room. Again acting from insecurity rather than a position of actual authority.

Any manager without top level experience is going to struggle at a top level club, without that reputation as a winner, and the arrogant confidence, and sense of security this brings, when results start going as badly as they have been. Small wonder really that, the players have begun to doubt him, as the exact same thing happened with Moyes (who again very unfairly the players downed tools on).

Not a justification, but from the players point of view, they are too, probably thinking that they would like a better more experienced manager. And why wouldn't they? After all, I doubt players like Pogba get all gooey eyed over Ole in the same way many of the fans do!
 
Did you know that Everton havent conceded against Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and United in the past 1.5 months? 3 wins and 1 draw? Theyre a good side. Obviously we shouldnt be losing 4-0 to anyone, but shit results and performances will happen to everyone on occasion. No use in getting hung up on it.

So any good side we're facing now is fine to lose against ? Lose to Wolves, good side, lose to Everton, good side, lose to City and Barca, god-esque sides etc. Any time we face a good/great side it's fine to lose, even if we lost against all of them.

Your expectations have reached rock bottom mate.
 
Me calling your post stupid wasn't based on supporting or being against Ole but it was based on your lack of intelligence since you thought We don't need to be ruthless with these players, who have been crap for a while now but we should be ruthless with a manager we hired few weeks ago but not these players who have been crap for previous 2 managers.

Regardless of who the new manager is, they all need players they want. Whether that's pep/klopp or big sam. So i am not sure why you think we shouldn't give him a transfer window, which is just plain stupid since we hired him. Well we did get LVG and Jose (unless you think they were clueless), they didn't really work out and jose had 4 transfer windows to get rid of these useless players but he made them his Favourites and its not because he didn't get to sell them. Why would we need to replace the entire squad as we do have some good players (De gea/pogba/shaw/rashford/martial/Victor) and add more quality players into that group then we can have a squad which is capable of performing consistently.

We did start to play decent before the players started to drop like flies and surprisingly a pre season helps with fitness (who knew?) which we need if we're to play high intensity football (unless you're playing FM) and doing that when you've got players who were last in terms of running stats is difficult while playing 2 games a week, since you can get muscle injuries as we did.

That statement is pretty stupid just like the one in your original post I replied to and once again it doesn't have anything to do with supporting Ole or being against him but just the sheer lack of intelligence of that bold part, unless you can tell the future (well....you can't even understand why we need to be ruthless with our useless players, so i am going with no, you can't tell the future but just making stuff up :rolleyes:).
Nowhere did I say we shouldn't be ruthless with players. My point was that we should be ruthless with the manager too. And no Solksjaer hasn't been here for just a few weeks, he has been here longer. I cannot tell the future but it looks bleak to me going by the last couple of months. A poor coach cannot succeed just by buying good players.
 
So any good side we're facing now is fine to lose against ? Lose to Wolves, good side, lose to Everton, good side, lose to City and Barca, god-esque sides etc. Any time we face a good/great side it's fine to lose, even if we lost against all of them.

Your expectations have reached rock bottom mate.

Expectations in the face of realization. You can't talk about how shite the squad is and then blame the manager holding the pieces of four past managers for the loss. And that doesn't mean it's fine to lose to those. But there is an intellectual understanding that it's probably going to happen against them.

The question is, can it be fixed? I can answer part of that right now: Not over the next three weeks. Does it make anyone happy? Heck no. But blaming Ole for it all is neither productive nor honest.
 
Expectations in the face of realization. You can't talk about how shite the squad is and then blame the manager holding the pieces of four past managers for the loss. And that doesn't mean it's fine to lose to those. But there is an intellectual understanding that it's probably going to happen against them.

The question is, can it be fixed? I can answer part of that right now: Not over the next three weeks. Does it make anyone happy? Heck no. But blaming Ole for it all is neither productive nor honest.

It's definitely not "intellectual understanding" that it's normal conclusion to lose against Everton and Wolves even when we're shite and they're good or semi-good. That means we should only be expecting wins against dross and relegation fodders. Rock bottom level of expectations that.

Yeah the squad is shite and players hold most of the blame but it's illogical to not say Ole has things to be blamed for and they're not few.
 
So any good side we're facing now is fine to lose against ? Lose to Wolves, good side, lose to Everton, good side, lose to City and Barca, god-esque sides etc. Any time we face a good/great side it's fine to lose, even if we lost against all of them.

Your expectations have reached rock bottom mate.
On the whole since Ole has come in, we have pretty much an even split of wins/losses in big games. Lost the recent big ones, won all the early big ones. Considering the state of our squad, that's pretty much as you'd expect from top 4 challenger gets over a longer period of time. That's what we are at best. Our players arent better than just top 4 challengers, and our squad, man for man, is basically around Arsenal or Chelsea level. So I'm not really expecting Ole to get a disjointed, unbalanced squad of players that he had no role in whatsoever of collecting and no preseason to actually develop into his own ways to perform miracles and get them all performing way above their standard level. Actually if you take out our CL games, our "big/difficult game record" reads 5 wins - 1 draw 1 - 5 losses.

It's not a matter of expectations or whatever. The situation Ole took over was hopeless, and he gave us hope to salvage the season. Hes picked up 38 points from 18 games, and will likely get 45-47 points from the 21 games he gets this season. He got to the CL quarter finals. He knocked out 2 top 6 sides away from home in the FA Cup until the tough away fixtures caught up with us and Wolves beat us. So yeah, forgive me if I'll show a bit of patience for a United legend who picked up a hopeless situation and has picked up more points than any side after the 2 title challengers who are a clear level above. Even for people who love xG - we've still been the best of the rest since Ole took over. So pretending like it's all doom and gloom because of a bad run of form after a ridiculously good run of form is overreacting IMO. Maybe people just need a dose of reality, if they think any single manager could come in and get this group of players playing as anything more than just top 4 challengers, they are hugely deluded. And guess what happens when your squad is only good enough for 3rd-6th - You are horribly inconsistent and sometimes just get outclassed. That's what we are seeing. We need everything to go perfectly and luck to be on our side to be able to beat teams like PSG, Barca and City. It'll happen sometimes, but most of the time, it wont. Doesnt matter who the manager is. The better team will end up winning the majority of times.
 
Expectations in the face of realization. You can't talk about how shite the squad is and then blame the manager holding the pieces of four past managers for the loss. And that doesn't mean it's fine to lose to those. But there is an intellectual understanding that it's probably going to happen against them.

The question is, can it be fixed? I can answer part of that right now: Not over the next three weeks. Does it make anyone happy? Heck no. But blaming Ole for it all is neither productive nor honest.
That's the thing I don't get. Most on here think our squad is absolutely shite and most players are nowhere near good enough but at the same time they expect Ole to have this team that's not even his playing great football and winning nearly every match? :confused:
 
It's definitely not "intellectual understanding" that it's normal conclusion to lose against Everton and Wolves even when we're shite and they're good or semi-good. That means we should only be expecting wins against dross and relegation fodders. Rock bottom level of expectations that.

Yeah the squad is shite and players hold most of the blame but it's illogical to not say Ole has things to be blamed for and they're not few.
You also can't expect that a team will win in every game against the teams around 7-10th. Especially not away. Most of the time, theres a pretty standard trend for teams hoping to win the title and get to ~90 points. Stay consistent and win your home games, draw away to the big teams and probably about 4 others who finish just outside the top 6. Stay consistent in the rest. The standard result for games away to Everton, Wolves, palace, Leicester, etc is getting a draw basically. You'll win some, you'll lose some, you'll draw some. But they're tough games. We're currently on a bad run of form, go back a month and we were at the end of a brilliant run of form. Shit happens. We won tough games, we lost some tough games. Not sure what you expected.
 
On the whole since Ole has come in, we have pretty much an even split of wins/losses in big games. Lost the recent big ones, won all the early big ones. Considering the state of our squad, that's pretty much as you'd expect from top 4 challenger gets over a longer period of time. That's what we are at best. Our players arent better than just top 4 challengers, and our squad, man for man, is basically around Arsenal or Chelsea level. So I'm not really expecting Ole to get a disjointed, unbalanced squad of players that he had no role in whatsoever of collecting and no preseason to actually develop into his own ways to perform miracles and get them all performing way above their standard level. Actually if you take out our CL games, our "big/difficult game record" reads 5 wins - 1 draw 1 - 5 losses.

It's not a matter of expectations or whatever. The situation Ole took over was hopeless, and he gave us hope to salvage the season. Hes picked up 38 points from 18 games, and will likely get 45-47 points from the 21 games he gets this season. He got to the CL quarter finals. He knocked out 2 top 6 sides away from home in the FA Cup until the tough away fixtures caught up with us and Wolves beat us. So yeah, forgive me if I'll show a bit of patience for a United legend who picked up a hopeless situation and has picked up more points than any side after the 2 title challengers who are a clear level above. Even for people who love xG - we've still been the best of the rest since Ole took over. So pretending like it's all doom and gloom because of a bad run of form after a ridiculously good run of form is overreacting IMO. Maybe people just need a dose of reality, if they think any single manager could come in and get this group of players playing as anything more than just top 4 challengers, they are hugely deluded. And guess what happens when your squad is only good enough for 3rd-6th - You are horribly inconsistent and sometimes just get outclassed. That's what we are seeing. We need everything to go perfectly and luck to be on our side to be able to beat teams like PSG, Barca and City. It'll happen sometimes, but most of the time, it wont. Doesnt matter who the manager is. The better team will end up winning the majority of times.

He took full credit for the amazing run at the start in the wins against Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs etc, so not giving him some of the blame and pretending now it's fine to lose to Everton and Wolves as they're good side is just illogical and dare to say, hypocrisy.

Of course the players are dogshite and they deserve most of the blame, but blaming those who are starting to have some questions on Ole after we lost 7 in 9 and having one of our worst ever runs in the past few years and acting like it's fine now to lose 4-0 to Everton or lose twice in a row in less than 2 weeks against Wolves is weird logic. Saying this is overreacting means you don't understand how god awful we have been in this last 1 or 2 months.

I'm on the side of thinking the players are shite and take most of the blame while Ole isn't the biggest problem but have things to answer for like his weird in game management and some terrible formations, but it's mostly the players at this point. However, blaming people for questioning manager after 7 losses in 9, scoring no goals in 4 hours and no open play goal in 8 hours, 6th in the league and out of all competitions while not being even fun to watch (the thing you and many others kept asking for and we still can't even deliver it) is hardly overreacting. Yeah it's definitely full doom and gloom at this point. They're normal questions. You can disagree with them, and I'm not entirely on the point of blaming him for everything but is a normal reaction. If you think it's overreaction, the teams we lost against are good sides and it's fine to lose these ways (while actually gods like City and Barca lost against worse opponents this season anyway, certainly not invincible) means your expectations have reached rock bottom. That we should only expect wins against dross and relegation fodders as any decent side we're facing it's 50/50 and fine to lose it.

I think you should review your expectations. The run we're in now is simply not acceptable for both the manager and players. Yeah the players hold most of the blame but Ole did several mistakes and some terrible formations and in game management.
 
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