Can't believe Pogba's injury is being cited as a reason. Feels like just yesterday he was fit and accused of slowing us down as why we couldn't break teams down. News flash our play looked no different, only difference was there was a central figure.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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This is quite confusing, Ole. You said last season that this year, we'd have the fittest, most energetic side in the league? Oh yeah, wait, I forgot - you said a lot of stuff like that didn't you, when you were auditioning for the job. Then as soon as it was permanent all the big talk and bold claims disappeared and within a few games you were telling the fans "we'll be lucky to finish 6th next year".
Biggest con-job in management history, ladies and gentlemen.
I thought we were going to be the fittest team in the league?
He just spews nonsense all the time. It's amazing that some lap it up.
This is why i was rolling my eyes, Im sorry but hes full puke!!
I think he said we'd be the most hardworking side in Europe too.
Why is this such a controversial thing to say? Explain that to me. We played 9 fixtures in December and 9 in January. Pretty much every 3 days for the last 60.
The team are tired. Of course they are. Why are you offended by that, or is it that you arent offended he just didn't say you thought was stupid this week so you've had to reach a little bit?
Then next season if he is still here and he could well be, Chelsea will spend big in the summer, Arsenal might just find their feet under Arteta, Spurs could be better, Wolves could be even better, Sheffield United might at least be the same. He will be seriously judged if he has had another window and nothing picks up. Liverpool and City are out of reach at the moment and Leicester are steady. Then people really need to look at Ole. If he gets the players he wants and we do not improve it is all down to him.
It's same for everyone with a paper thin squad Ole.
He keeps moving the goalposts. He spent the whole of the summer preaching how he was making the players fit.
The problem is Ole has exacerbated this by playing his team into the ground in games against Colchester, Rochdale, Tranmere, City (game was lost), as well as in the Europa League. Likewise playing Rashford injured in a cup tie, causing him to be out for months.
You can't really have it both ways. Klopp has been playing a second string in the cup competitions because he knows it'll positively impact the PL/CL form. If Ole knew that too why didn't he rotate more?
I suspect it's because he believes he's on the precipice of losing his job so a short term win will ease the pressure at the expense of season long form. His attempt to save his job might be the thing that costs it him.
I dont think anyone is asking to have it both ways, whatever that means. The team are tired because they've played a lot. Not an uncommon scenario in football and it's okay to say it. The break will do us good.
Not sure how Klopp is even remotely relevant to this topic. Why bring it up? Is he at fault for Mane being injured? He plays him every single week.
Been saying this since. I can't believe people forget the end of last season. We faced Huddersfield and Cardiif two teams already relegated at that time. If we beat them we would be in the champions league by now. We lost to Huddersfield and drew with Cardiff. And yes Pogba was there.
It's amazing how people forget things like that. We played just as we're playing now in the last 11 games of last season. The Everton loss was devastating. People complained about Pogba hugging the ball frequently when he was doing it because of the lack of movement. Bruno yesterday was telling our players to push forward just after 2 days he's been here.
When he made that joke about the groundsmen moving the goalposts yesterday, the journalist should have demolished him quick as a flash:
"Funny that, Ole, you seem to enjoy moving goalposts yourself this season."
feck me. This post was disgusting. From pre season to transfer window to players returning from injuries to the break.
Complaining about tiredness (and injuries) when you have had opportunities to rest your team and not done so (or playing players injured) is trying to have it both ways (Ie have the cake of progressing in the cups whilst wanting to eat it by using it as an excuse as to failing to do better in the league).
I certainly wouldn't be using my inability to manage my squads fitness levels as an excuse as to not being able to win a home game against a mid table side.
Klopp was merely an example of someone managing his squad better.
Have you ever competed in any endurance based sport? It can take two-three years to take a proper step up in endurance fitness.
100% agree mate!
Well what does he expect when hes run our players into the ground? He hasnt rotated when he should have, hes literally broken Rashford, he handled Pogba's injury badly too. Ole is just full of excuses.
On the other hand he gets criticised for playing Lingard and Pereira and Mata and Matic and blah blah blah
Well he talks about playing the youth and we havent seen Gomes or Garner and Greenwood should have started more games us.
He has bombed out Gomes yet has Chong on the bench who I personally don't think is as talented.
I'm pretty sure those are our current first team players
Let me tell you kids something. I love how the British media have had it's agenda the whole season, how Chelsea and Lampard have been soooo CUUUUUUTE and nice giving their young squad a chance to develop and they are doing so well and having this 4. place.
Now, go and look the average age actually and you see that many games Manchester United have had even younger squad and hardly get the praise for it. And being said, we have also had so many injuries and have had to field our 3. and 4. choice players to the position, instead of playing the best 11.
So, I hope Ole Gunnar has the chance to have the full depth of his squad for a running 10 games this season and we'll see how we perform and play then. Something tells me that it would be complete different for every team if they had to deal with their 3. and 4. choice options most of the season, instead off fielding the best 11.
Now, go and look the average age actually and you see that many games Manchester United have had even younger squad and hardly get the praise for it. And being said, we have also had so many injuries and have had to field our 3. and 4. choice players to the position, instead of playing the best 11.
So, I hope Ole Gunnar has the chance to have the full depth of his squad for a running 10 games this season and we'll see how we perform and play then. Something tells me that it would be complete different for every team if they had to deal with their 3. and 4. choice options most of the season, instead off fielding the best 11.
Don't even bother responding to him, he's either a troll (most likely), or so deluded, that no amount of reason will make him change his mind.
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Ole playing youth is the biggest myth so far. There only 2 who are playing regularly (Greenwood and Williams). Otherwise he's preferring to sub on Lingard instead of Gomes for example. Garner has barely got a chance despite all injuries in midfield as well.
Exactly, and im sure they're in the same situation contract wise as well so that cant be used as an excuse.
Is it too much to ask for a manager that has an attacking or energetic pressing philosophy? I thought oles intention was at least to try to play like this however it appears he has also reverted to the same safe defensive crap that all other managers have fell foul of.
Whats the problem?? Too much pressure..? Or is it instruction from above to play in a way not to lose rather than try to win.
Whats the problem?? Too much pressure..? Or is it instruction from above to play in a way not to lose rather than try to win.
The two late subs got my goat yesterday. Why leave it that late? It was more being scared of losing than trying to win, yet Dalot nearly did. He would have lauded as a genius.
He had a full squad at the end of last season and at the start of this season. Didn't go too wellSo, I hope Ole Gunnar has the chance to have the full depth of his squad for a running 10 games this season and we'll see how we perform and play then. Something tells me that it would be complete different for every team if they had to deal with their 3. and 4. choice options most of the season, instead off fielding the best 11.
We had to beat 2 relegated sides to get into CL and we won 1 point Also, don't exaggerate injuries with nonsense like "3. and 4. choice options most of the season". We had Pogba and McTominay missing for majority of the season, that's about it. In all other positions we play our first choice options. I remember when Pogba came back from injury everyone was bashing him that he slows everything down. It's never Ole's fault for failing to set up a team and coach any sort of attacking play. It's always the players To me a top manager you have to be ruthless and decisive in match situations. Ole ponders things too much. If someone is making loads of mistakes get them off. A lot of those mistakes could be coming from tiredness if they have been overplayed.And thats when i switched, i couldnt take it anymore
Excellent post I’m so sick of all the excuses people come with to excuse how crap he is .
There’s no conceivable way he’s our manager come August. Absolutely none.
We may be giving the clowns who run our club far too much credit than they deserve with this but I’d be mesmerised if Pochettino (or somebody equally qualified) isn’t lined up already to take over in the summer. It would beggar belief if preliminary talks haven’t at least taken place.
We may be giving the clowns who run our club far too much credit than they deserve with this but I’d be mesmerised if Pochettino (or somebody equally qualified) isn’t lined up already to take over in the summer. It would beggar belief if preliminary talks haven’t at least taken place.
But he was going to change all that, at least that’s what he promised last year..
Worst ever PL start
On course for worst PL points tally
It's not going forwards, we're not going in the right direction. It's been consistently shit, and it'll stay shit or get worse.
On course for worst PL points tally
It's not going forwards, we're not going in the right direction. It's been consistently shit, and it'll stay shit or get worse.
Martial missed that memo.
Well I myself thought he'd be gone come December yet here we are. 13 points worse off than last fecking season.
I really want to know what the tipping point would be for the Ole In cultists, where they say “actually, it’s clear now he’s not good enough and should be sacked”.
Because, as it stands, I don’t think even relegation would invoke this reaction. I think they’d actually sacrifice family members’ lives for the guy. He can do no wrong.
Honestly, the oppo fans are loving this. We are the biggest laughing stock in world football. Far more so than Liverpool has ever been. We were first to mock them, but we’ve now morphed into a more ridiculous version. We are a parody of ourselves.
Isn’t it ironic how it’s the “top reds” who are actually contributing to the downfall of this club. And anyone who demands the highest standard, is branded a “plastic”. Pitiful.
Absolutely praying we are talking to Poch for him to come in at the end of May. It's the only thing getting me through the season now, and the only thing that would make sense being as we rushed a striker in for rest of the season rather than commit more funds on a player Poch might now want.
LVG and Jose had a great cv, fans showed no patient either... Pep and Klopp would have been sacked as well with our owners incapable of buying and selling players.
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