It's not only when the previous manager has lost the dressing room, you get a bounce.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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He should be sacked, Woodward won't and will let this drag till end of the season.
I have bit of sympathy as he is relying on players like Periera but managers are judged on every single decision and it was decision to rely on him. More than anything his injury management fecked this season.
Fourth is there for the taking, Chelsea are in shit fourth but we are even worse.
I have bit of sympathy as he is relying on players like Periera but managers are judged on every single decision and it was decision to rely on him. More than anything his injury management fecked this season.
Fourth is there for the taking, Chelsea are in shit fourth but we are even worse.
When did he have the dressing room?
I would have exercised more patience if Ole had Klopp's CV but he doesn't. Why should l be patient with a man who relegated Cardiff and whose major managerial experience is from Norway. It's just honestly so so baffling and stupid the manager of one of the biggest and richest clubs in the world has such a laughable CV. This has to be the peak of Woodward's incompetence. We should have been patient with Moyes. He needed more backing like Ole and had an average CV like Ole too
Because everything is the Glazers and Woodward's fault, when they are gone Ole will turn into a managerial genius. They just cannot separate the footballer from the manager.
They all need to go, but the owners won't. The best thing they could do is quite simply bring a DOF in, that is what's needed. He can then deal with Ole, the coaches and players and what should happen to them. Until that dawns on them and they, I suspect, stop letting figures from the past influence them, we will stagger from one disaster to another. There is too much of the 'In my day' about United.
OGS continues to highlight his limitations as a manager. An average man, with an average mindset. He's annoying, and is something of a charlatan - he knows he is a limited manager. You think he inspires those players? What does it look like, after a over a year
Look at him at the final whistle, hugging the Wolves manager like some pathetic tw*t. He did exactly the same with Pep..after another set of uninspiring performances.
The man isn't doing a thing that any average manager would in that position.
A joke. The club has become a laughing stock.
There is an acceptance of mediocrity at this club and no one can tell me the fans haven't played a part.
There if a fine line between being supportive and playing a willing fool in a garbage presentation.
The number of times we have been in a position to get there, I actually suspect Ole doesn't want it. That he knows he will not get the standard of players he wants and that he will be found out. Don't bring up PSG as they have a habit of imploding, so I think although it was fun, too much credence has been put on it. We could be well in fourth place, but have failed time and time again.
Ole is positive and nice so players can't be upset with him. What they should be upset about is the results and the performances but why should they when after they draw a match against Wolves their manager tells the world "how many teams have been able to break down Wolves". If I was a United striker and my manager said that I'd actually think I did a decent job by his standards
Ole wants to bring attacking football to Manchester United......or so he said.
Yet, tactically, we hardly see our CF or any players at all, in the middle of the box when we attack. We are always bunched up on the wings or trying to pass our way in from midfield. Should we not stretch play across the field and should he not be demanding the CF to be getting into the box?
I think he has not got it right tactically. It is time for him to move on.
Yet, tactically, we hardly see our CF or any players at all, in the middle of the box when we attack. We are always bunched up on the wings or trying to pass our way in from midfield. Should we not stretch play across the field and should he not be demanding the CF to be getting into the box?
I think he has not got it right tactically. It is time for him to move on.
Think some will be happy to fail if we get rid of the owners. We got relegated, but bounced straight back. You could then. Nowadays it is not that simple and plenty of massive clubs have floundered for years. If the owners go, those same fans will be quite happy to throw Ole under the same bus.
No, but its much, much more likely that performances will improve if the players have downed tools. I am not a tactical expert, so i cant really point as to why we are so shit at breaking down organized defenses. What is plain to see is that we play way to much sideways and when we do close down on the opponents box there is a massive lack of both movement and available options, so we just play it wide again and again and again.
There are no doubt managers and coaching teams with better tactical nous than our current one, but even if we sacked everyone today i doubt it would matter much since coaching new patterns, tactics and whatnot is not done overnight.
I think always? Several players have gone on record saying they trust him, but that might have changed.
I think it is a case of the lunatics running the asylum.
Ole does not want to upset any of the players as he just seems to want to be liked.
He is saying now how certain players are great human beings, I think the intention is to win football games not the Nobel peace prize.
Ole does not want to upset any of the players as he just seems to want to be liked.
He is saying now how certain players are great human beings, I think the intention is to win football games not the Nobel peace prize.
Yesterday was crying out for Dalot coming on for AWB, a subtle change that most people should be seeing, Ole was oblivious to it, not great management
The day we stop relying on transfers the save managers is the day we might actually judge them for what they are.
excellent post. Agree with all of it. The icing on the cake is getting personally attacked, insulted and accused of having some kind of inherent character failure and being ‘toxic’ for pointing this kind of stuff out, or even mentioning it. Can’t wait til this whole sorry chapter is over.
I just hope to god we have lined Poch up. That would actually make sense to me as Bruno was clearly a player Poch wanted whilst at Spurs, and the fact we have made a last minute signing of a striker with no obligation to buy, means Poch wouldnt be stuck with him. Results and performances are not good enough. Nice guy Ole, but not good enough.
I think the mediocrity of this league currently is keeping him in the job, it's baffling we're in the hunt for 4th really, we shouldn't be anywhere near it.
I went to the game yesterday, for the first time this season. Shocked at how poor the side looked in the flesh. No pace, no movement, no creativity. We could have played another 90 minutes without scoring. We are going nowhere under Solskjaer and I cannot believe anyone watches this crap and backs him.
Him promoting youth has to be a myth right? Greenwood and Williams has played but that's as a result of Greenwood being our only back up option as RW and striker and Williams being the only LB back up to an injury prone Shaw. Where's Gomes, Garner, Levitt, Chong etc in the starting line up against a bottom table league 2 side or when James and Pereira are underperforming or when we don't have any CM option.
Him getting credit for transfers is also strange given that I've seen Fernandes Maguire and AWB in people's fantasy lineup in the transfer forum.
Him getting credit for transfers is also strange given that I've seen Fernandes Maguire and AWB in people's fantasy lineup in the transfer forum.
I'm sick of critisising individual players. Our total lack of a game plan against deep teams, and general lack of the ability to control a match cannot be down to that we have gathered a team of inept players. Blame has to be on the manager and the coaching staff when we have 7-8 players per match looking completely clueless.
Personally think Ed will die on the Ole hill.
You should leave such descriptions for the sadomasochists forum.
An extremely expensive day out relative to the entertainment on offer. Going to watch reinforces my respect for people who use their hard earned money week in week out.
Except Herrera was not fit during the losing streak. He was injured. McTominay didn't become a regular until this season. And Rashford has improved dramatically this season. Other than that, your kinda on target.
100% this! Nothing more to add except it’s time to talk about our next manager. Ole needs to get out of our systems so we can find fresh energy.
Great post Kush.
I’m very much an Ole supporter but last nights game, the defeat at home to Burnley and the loss to Arsenal concern me more than anything. We could have played all day in those games and never ever looked like scoring. If those sort of games keep happening when we have Rashford, pogba and mctominay back then there wouldn’t be much to excuse such mediocrity
McTominay filled in for Herrera though.
A Leeds fan and a Middesborougb fan were ripping the piss out of Ole in the pub last night... but dyou know what? feck them! Cos in 5 years we’ll really show them when we qualify for the Champions League!
This is such an obvious but important point. In recent seasons Leicester City have lost arguably three of their best players (Kanye, Mahrez, Maguire...) for a lot of money, and good for them.
And what has been the impact..? A negative one?
Not at all. They had a period in mid-table to adjust, and now look... A well balanced side, a hungry manager with a credible level of success and progress at previous clubs... an attractive style of play, and a well run club (it seems...)
How did they do all that though!?..
.. wait, don’t tell me!!... did they hire Muzzy Izzet and then give him a permanent contract based on 2 months worth of good results and a general feeling of positivity!?
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Now we both brought up Fergie. Anyone can use that comparison. What makes Ole the next Fergie? Is it just that he hasn't succeeded at first? So you're telling me that if every member on this forum became successive managers of United, you would use this excuse for every single one of us? Because we'd all probably fail and thus this image could be used to justify more time.
I hope you realize how ridiculous what you're doing is.
BREXIT WILL BE GREAT BECAUSE WE WON WW2 LADS!!
Stop whining and get behind Boris I mean Ole!!!
It was happening when we had everyone fit, did you forget already how we finished last season? You can give World XI to Ole and we would still look shite. Team is seriously handicapped by our coaching staff.
Now we both brought up Fergie. Anyone can use that comparison. What makes Ole the next Fergie? Is it just that he hasn't succeeded at first? So you're telling me that if every member on this forum became successive managers of United, you would use this excuse for every single one of us? Because we'd all probably fail and thus this image could be used to justify more time.
I hope you realize how ridiculous what you're doing is.
His username is mu4c_20le man, we could get relegated and he'd still be spouting this nonsense.
All i can do is roll my eyes..
Exactly. It's not new to see us looking this clueless, we had games like this when everyone was fit. I'm just bored of reading the same tired excuses.
Or even how we started this season with Pogba and co. all fit:
Chelsea H - WIN
Wolves A - DRAW
C. Palace H - LOSS
So yeah, exactly the same 1 in 3 win/loss/draw rate which has continued through to game 25, and including last season it has now been going on for 30 Premier League games.
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