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This plus about 34 seconds against Bayern when Evra scored that screamer. That was our lot from Moyes.
The first game of the season was excellent too, when we battered Swansea 4-1 away. The chip which Welbeck scored that day is still one of my favourite goals ever - sheer class.
I'll give you that but even his solitary win against anyone significant in the league (Arsenal Home) was a bloody diabolical game. Anyway, off thread topic but lets leave it at: Moyes good football? Lol
Who is this Pele chap?
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And the "my house" comment
Very endearing. I love him now. Viva JoMo!
Everyone banging on about the united way we didn't even have free flowing attack for last 3 years of Fergies reign it's not like we have just all of a sudden become less expressive it's been that way for a long time now.
Its time for something new I totally embrace mou and whatever he has to bring to the table.
Its time for something new I totally embrace mou and whatever he has to bring to the table.
I voted "Happy enough but not ecstatic" but I really think our so called entertaining football of the past has been over hyped.
Even way back in 02/03 when we were up against Arsenal's so-called-Invincibles, we focused on winning games rather than than pretty how-dare-you-tackle-me football Arsenal represented.
Besides, the Chelsea and Real Madrid team Mourinho coached were never lacking in goals. Madrid in particular had devastating counter attacks. I doubt we'd be seeing anything similar to Van Gaal's brand of impotent football.
Ahhh just some dude who advertises viagra
Why isn't he wearing the club blazer?
Not an official club event? Anyway, don't go trying to besmirch JoMo.
LVG practically slept in it.. Jose should be sacked
I think that's been mostly debunked already. Barring last season, the stats don't lie, his teams score goals.
Ibra's strike partner next season.
Referring to Old Trafford as his house!
People think Jose would loan out Shaw?
Crazy talk.
Crazy talk.
Never heard of the black Rooney?
It hasnt been debunked. Its an opinion. The number of goals doesnt mean a team is good to watch. Stats dont indicate if a style of football is pleasing on the eye to everyone.
I dont like his style of football. His teams throttle the life out of other sides and his teams win. Its very effective and yes there are plenty of goals scored.
But for me personally I dont find his style of football attractive. Now I know I am in the minority here but saying its been debunked is bollocks.
Saying his first Chelsea team and his Madrid team didn't play good football is also bollocks. Both those teams often played great football.
The United way involves playing football that scores goals, entertains fans, and wins trophies.
Fergie did that by setting our team up in a risky attacking setup. Worked well against the weak opponents with waves and waves of attacks. But we often got exposed against the better opposition. He did get wiser in his later years and played a high press countering attacking style, but i think many tactically savvy individuals can see the lack of pragmatism in the way Fergie set up his teams. He was, however, a master at controlling the intangibles and manipulating his players. I don't think that has anything to do with the tactical style of football. It's a skill he had as a leader that made him one of the best managers ever. Which is why our players were always motivated to win no matter what. That spirit is part of the United way, and I hope Mourinho can inspire our players similarly.
With the money flowing into the PL, the skill level in most PL teams is increasing. This makes it very hard to emulate the attacking soccer Fergie played and win trophies. Obviously we want to win with style points, but sadly the PL is not like the spanish, german, or french leagues. Mourinho plays counter attacking football, because its the easiest way to score. His teams always score plenty of goals. I'm happy with that. What people don't like is the low press he plays allowing the opposing team to have more possession and his teams defend for extended periods of time. That's what we dont want to watch. However, if you watched the first half of his recent title winning season at Chelsea, you'd notice he played much more expansive football with a high press counter attack similar to how Fergie set us up in the later years. The season half of the season it clearly didn't work as well as teams were ready for it and he had to revert back to his usual tactics. Look at Klopp at Liverpool, he plays the high press counter and struggles to win consistently.
The issue is the competitiveness of the PL doesn't allow for a dominating attacking style. Fans will have to learn to appreciate other aspects of the game such as defending, passing, and scrappy battles if they want their team to win trophies sometime soon.
Its a matter of opinion and taste. Thats the point.
For what its worth i dont think Mourinho plays attractive football, i think alot of people are making up things to fit the story that hes the perfect manager. Klopp would have been a far better fit for style of play in my opinion.
If he can get us playing a similar brand of football his Real Madrid side played and his 1st Chelsea side played, I'd be thrilled with that. They were machines.
There's a lot of revisionism lately on here that it was accepted we played great football in Fergie's final seasons. Pretty sure I remember seeing a lot of threads how our football was outdated.
There's a lot of revisionism lately on here that it was accepted we played great football in Fergie's final seasons. Pretty sure I remember seeing a lot of threads how our football was outdated.
Love it.... My new house!!
He called Chelsea and Inter his house too.
Tbh I find it a bit weird that he goes around to various clubs using the exact same phrase. The only positive is that it took him winning multiple trophies at those clubs to say it while he is saying it after month 1 here.
Tbh I find it a bit weird that he goes around to various clubs using the exact same phrase. The only positive is that it took him winning multiple trophies at those clubs to say it while he is saying it after month 1 here.
I know it's been a long descent, but I am only considering who would be best to count on re-creating the playing style of yore.
I doubt we'll be seeing any more philosophical football too. Given our current squad, though, I don't think Mourinho can fashion a positive playing style like he did for Chelsea or Real Madrid. The latter especially had some of the fastest players currently playing, it would be stupid not to incorporate countering in your tactics. But for our team (the current squad at least), he probably will default back to highly defensive football. Anything to win. As for the goal-scoring stats, I will look into breakdown when I get the time. I believe his teams were prone to either destroy a weak team 6-0, or grind through the harder games while looking terrible. It does matter what the team is doing while goals aren't being scored, too.
..That's an excellent post. It's true that expecting flashy, attacking football to win leagues is probably a thing of the past, given how the average quality of the teams have been raised. We just don't have the players to dominate anymore. (Yet, Leicester City won with such simple tactics. I suppose it's safe to write them and the suddenly mercurial Vardy off as an exception)
I admire the way Mourinho led the Inter Milan team to victory in the UCL, there was some defensive masterclasses involved. I am not sure if I'll be able to enjoy it as much seeing United play that way, though. While I appreciate that every advantage, including superior tactics, is necessary to win leagues, I suppose I'll always yearn for the more exciting, risky wins that look great. If Mourinho can somehow strike a balance between the two, using defensive football only when necessary, then it would be perfect.
Agreed. I'd rather win the treble first, and then complain about playing more attractive football.
There will be some people who will swear to their death beds that Moyes wasn't that bad.
He still has his admirers.
That is weird, I can atleast understand loyalty to Van Gaal because the man has his charisma, Moyes on the other hand has the charisma of a wet tissue paper.
How can something like that ever be debunked? A style can never be narrowed down and understood in terms of numbers. I am not saying his teams do or do not play entertaining football but to suggest that one can prove one or the other is just wrong.
That's why they support/supported him. Pity was the main reason. He never looked/was competent in the slightest so Moyes was treated like that one person who kept trying out for the basketball team each year only to miss the cut.
I am 100% sure there's going to be better football played under Mourinho then LVG and thats good enough for me.
Hey, there's always people who would fancy a wet tissue paper and some that have a fetish for golden showers. And I am Not hinting my personal fetishes here, Thank you.
Absolutely, no argument there
Oh my
Lolz.. Just because everyone is getting all orgasmic about the "New House" comment, now we have added that to title.
Taking the Mou fanfare to a new level.
Taking the Mou fanfare to a new level.
Indeed.
I have to say that these comments are doing nothing for me. Less talk, more action please.
Brilliant
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