Skills lack of participation and MJJs constant use of stats makes this the worst draft discussion I've seen.
ODI Cricket Draft: Skills vs MJJ
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I think he includes his peak years alone. That maybe the reason why.
Its cricket? How can you dsicuss it without stats? I can post some vids if that will amke it better.
Where were you in the Test matches. There were some absolute corkers in there. It had everything.
Kapil's average has nothing to do with it. The reason that swayed me to vote for you was the lack of a second specialist spinner in Skills' team which I reckon would be a must playing in Colombo.
Apparently Azhar has got an avg of 56 and SR of 81 while playing in SL with a hundred and 9 50s. I'm sure if we check we will find similar stats for Attapattu too.
Knowledge? History? Team balance? Strategy? A better look at how you would square head to head in a match situation?
All you've done is puke out bogus numbers. Numbers which ideally should supplement your 'knowledge'.
That's utterly strange if true
What the hell is this WW ? @Varun . I thought it was World of Warcraft until now.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting
he actually gets slightly slower
better average though.He's taken the message posted on the OP literally I'm afraid.
Werewolf. It's a game we play here on the forum. Check the general forum, we have an invitational starting this Sunday.
Completely agree with this,why is there no talk of tactics, bowling plans etc.
I actually don't think either team has even outlined who their opening bowlers will be, what will be the changes, and who will bowl at the death.
Yeah, went through the OP, but din't understand anything.
Not a surprise from Skills. MJJ I think briefly mentions it. Such things usually come up as the discussions progress, but Skills is too busy paying off Azhar.
Come play sometime. We always welcome new players.
Atapattu, Flower and Azza are three stellar players of spin, should have little to no problem with a bowler like Tahir.
Saqlain will spin rings around Kalu, Fleming, Pietersen (he gets out to pie chuckers ffs), Smith and Maxwell. Lara, for all his qualities, was inconsistent in ODIs.
Spin will be the difference in Lanka.
Saqlain will spin rings around Kalu, Fleming, Pietersen (he gets out to pie chuckers ffs), Smith and Maxwell. Lara, for all his qualities, was inconsistent in ODIs.
Spin will be the difference in Lanka.
If all the ODI games are going to be number driven, there's a good chance I'll be lurking around in there. Need to understand the game first.
Simply put. In a 25 player game, there would be say 4 evil players. These players share a forum outside Caf and can chat there. They are called wolves. The remaining players have to find out who these wolves are. Every day, wolves kill a player while voting happens to decide 1 player that the villagers decide to hang as a wolf suspect. This goes on till either all wolves die (village win) or number of wolves = villagers (wolves win)
Catching wolves happens via posts in the game thread on the Caf, vote analysis, and at times via villagers having special powers.
Even so, MJJ's team would still score more runs faster than Skills. Batting second you've got to fancy them. MJJs been made aware of his inaccurate stats and he's amended them. Not voting for him because you think Skills team would beat his batting first is cool, but if it's because you think he's done a bit of false accounting isn't good enough.
You are a young man, with a bright future ahead of you, don't throw your life away like this.
Okay, skills batting.
Astle,Attapatu,Pointing,Flowers,Azhar.,Samuels, Kapil and Bishop. vs Imran, Gough,Steyn,Patterson and Tahir.
Dont rate samuels so will exclude him from the conversation.
The front two is a pretty good combination. A hitter and someone who will hold the other end. Pointing is obviously the star of the innings and a lot relies on him having a big score. Flowers and Azhar. will keep the innings moving in the middle order but it lacks the bite at the end to finish things off. With a bowling attack of imran,gough and steyn at the start, I can see both his openers struggling and thus the runrate will be on the lower side to start with. Specially if astle gets removed early. All in all, am expecting a score between 240-270.
Tahir gets a lot of wickets when batsman are looking to target him and accelerate the innings so I can see him breaking a partnership towards the 35-40 overs. Would probably be azhar and pointing who would have that long partnership that will bring skills back in teh game.
My batting.
Kalu,Fleming, Smith, Lara, Pietersen, Maxwell,Imran vs Kapil,Ntini,Pringles,Saqlain and bishop.
Openers are similar in styles to skills, with kalu the weakest of the four and fleming the best(but attapatu is playing at home). Again, I would expect kaluwi. to get out pretty early(maybe score a quick 20-30 runs if am lucky). If he gets out in the first couple of overs, I have the option of promoting lara to 3(averages close to 50 as an opener) and him and fleming will keep the scoreboard ticking nicely.
Am expecting a target of 240-270, and with the hitting I have at the end of my batting(pietersen,maxwell,imran and smith) I think all I need is one long partnership to get there. ntini will go for runs, and the only sustained pressure that skills can build will be from saqlian and kapil bowling together. Overall, I will edge the match.
All football drafts are based on peak years only.
Eh? I was winding him up for being a sneaky cnut. His team is poorly constructed, as is Skills. I just believe Saqlain will win it for the latter.
Because skills doesnt know half his players and I cant debate with myself
And stats present an easier picture
Woah, that sounds nice. I'll definitely have a look at that. So these wolves basically leave clues in their posts ? That's how the Sherlocks figure out who the wolf is ? I get that there will be bluffs/double bluffs etc. But you leave traces of your wolfish behaviour is it ? And I'm guessing Special Powers are the typical, reveal one organization, or a player or something relevant to finding the wolf.
C'mon thats not fair. The openers are a bit weak and its missing an allrounder. Rest of the side, is pretty good and ideal for ODIs.
Two innings builder in the middle, finishers near the end. Three strike bowlers, a pretty good spinner.
Or via MG being a wolf.
Saqlain, at his peak, had an average of 18 and a strike rate of 30 iirc. He was quite easily in the top 3 spinners I've ever seen at their peak.
He would eat your batsmen for lunch.
Who would you class as the best players of spin in the modern era? And smith was the only australian batsman able to better ajmal on a consistent basis in the pak vs aus test series that we had in the past. You are underrating my side by a lot.
Maxwell has an average of 56 against a pak side that contained ajmal, saqlain is better than him but not by that big a margin.
Wolves don't leave clues intentionally unless they want to gloat later. It happens because of how they behave with fellow wolves, interaction with them, how they behave at crucial juncture of the game, whether they try to divert talk elsewhere etc. When 1 wolf gets caught, his interaction with others is looked at which hives lots of clues. Bluffs and double Bluffs happen a lot ofcourse. Special powers as in a role called "priest" gets told the role of every player that does privately by the game mod. He can choose when to disclose this info. A seer can check if a player is wolf with the game mod. 1 ask per day. So on and so forth. A vigilante can shoot any person. Guy with a bullet basically.
Low blow
KP is a good player of spin imo. But KP is also poor in SL. Has only played 5 games but has 112 runs 63 of which were in a single game. He does have a good record in India though. Fleming too averages 24 from 15 games in SL. Havent looked at the others but they clearly arent fully able to adapt to the conditions
Edit- would be surprised if steven smith has a a good record too. The guy hardly played well outside Aus
Am a pakistani, I love saqlain but you are underrating my batsman here. Was my fave cricketer growing up, ahead of akram and waqar. My bowling action was modelled on his as well
Imran has a similar bowling average, is he going to destroy skills batting as well?
I don't think it matters like in a test match, especially with Skills only having the one spinner. Mushtaq is very good, but in the end it's only ten overs to navigate with possibly no one to hold down the other end at times.
Damn, this sounds imba.Wolves don't leave clues intentionally unless they want to gloat later. It happens because of how they behave with fellow wolves, interaction with them, how they behave at crucial juncture of the game, whether they try to divert talk elsewhere etc. When 1 wolf gets caught, his interaction with others is looked at which hives lots of clues. Bluffs and double Bluffs happen a lot ofcourse. Special powers as in a role called "priest" gets told the role of every player that does privately by the game mod. He can choose when to disclose this info. A seer can check if a player is wolf with the game mod. 1 ask per day. So on and so forth. A vigilante can shoot any person. Guy with a bullet basically.
Low blow
^ good point.
Although, on a turning pitch, spinners can regularly clean up in those 10 overs.
Although, on a turning pitch, spinners can regularly clean up in those 10 overs.
Well if he wanted free posting rights he should have signed up to play and instead of an AM. 2vs1 ganging up is quite a low blow way to overwhelm the match threads. It's not on being serious or having fun, but on fair play.
Imba?
fixed.