Stevondo8
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i would actually expect a new album. Noel is constantly writing, and wouldnt be suprised if most of it is writtenare they back as a band or are they back temporarily to make a few million and then fug off again into the wilderness?
Can we expect new music?
See, I do think there’s a difference between ‘dated’ and ‘young people don’t like this anymore’ … I was VERY much in the age range when Oasis were big. Slightly too young if anything to actually enjoy Britpop proper. I’m of the generation where it was your mates cool older siblings who were listening to it, which made it even cooler! but now I’m older the likes of Blur and Radiohead have definitely aged better and I personally hear in more TV shows/ads etc. Granted there are still pubs that play Oasis more, but their sound was a lot less sophisticated and so a lot more “of” that era than even a lot of their contemporary’s. Even those 2 big Ocean Colour Scene songs still get a huge amount of play, cos they’ve dated quite well, musically.
I mean a lot of Bowie stuff hasn’t dated, but a lot of Prince stuff has. Soul largely hasnt dated but Hair Metal has. It’s not just about the passing of time. Oasis are one of those bands where you watch a retrospective and hear people say “their music was edgy and raw and for the people!” and then they cut to a clip of “Some Might Say” and it sounds incredibly naff. Like when people talk about the Satanic panic era and then cut to the cheesiest glam metal bollocks you’ve ever heard. Or even early Beatles stuff with women screaming over clean cup boppy love songs. But then nothing on Revolver has dated. Nor have a lot of The Stones stuff. Nirvana havent dated, etc
The difference obviously was that - unlike the Beatles - Oasis never l progressed from that one sound* There’s some stuff that hasn’t dated for sure sure - Live Forever, Supersonic, fecking In The Bushes etc - but a lot of it has to me, and some of the ballads just sound a bit twee now, even to someone who grew up with them. It was post rave and electronica and people really wanted guitars and catchy choruses but then it never went anywhere else and we all moved on.
* Ironically the best Britpop Beatles rip off was Beetlebum, which is way more like their later stuff than any of Oasis was.
But hey, that’s just my take on it. Im not an outright hater. I enjoy quite a few. I’m certainly a lot more generous towards them than some…
So you'd have a 5 day festival cost £50 per night? Like I say, they'd make far, far less in ticket sales that way. And the money is obviously the key motivator here.
And I've just googled Mayercraft. Never mind hell on earth, that souls like floating purgatory. Such a boring brand of self indulgence.
Yes. Charge more if you like. But that’s what festivals cost.
But I promise you that an Aristocrats field won’t cost £500-750k a day rental the way Wembley does. Nor will many take a 10% cut of the gate. And they will absolutely be a better way to watch live music.
Mayercraft wasn’t being held up as an exemplar of what you want. Only that there are different ways to do something than stand on stage in a stadium, phoning it in, which they definitely will. For what it’s worth, it was incredibly fun and worked well.
See, I do think there’s a difference between ‘dated’ and ‘young people don’t like this anymore’ … I was VERY much in the age range when Oasis were big. Slightly too young if anything to actually enjoy Britpop proper. I’m of the generation where it was your mates cool older siblings who were listening to it, which made it even cooler! but now I’m older the likes of Blur and Radiohead have definitely aged better and I personally hear in more TV shows/ads etc. Granted there are still pubs that play Oasis more, but their sound was a lot less sophisticated and so a lot more “of” that era than even a lot of their contemporary’s. Even those 2 big Ocean Colour Scene songs still get a huge amount of play, cos they’ve dated quite well, musically.
I mean a lot of Bowie stuff hasn’t dated, but a lot of Prince stuff has. Soul largely hasnt dated but Hair Metal has. It’s not just about the passing of time. Oasis are one of those bands where you watch a retrospective and hear people say “their music was edgy and raw and for the people!” and then they cut to a clip of “Some Might Say” and it sounds incredibly naff. Like when people talk about the Satanic panic era and then cut to the cheesiest glam metal bollocks you’ve ever heard. Or even early Beatles stuff with women screaming over clean cup boppy love songs. But then nothing on Revolver has dated. Nor have a lot of The Stones stuff. Nirvana havent dated, etc
The difference obviously was that - unlike the Beatles - Oasis never l progressed from that one sound* There’s some stuff that hasn’t dated for sure sure - Live Forever, Supersonic, fecking In The Bushes etc - but a lot of it has to me, and some of the ballads just sound a bit twee now, even to someone who grew up with them. It was post rave and electronica and people really wanted guitars and catchy choruses but then it never went anywhere else and we all moved on.
* Ironically the best Britpop Beatles rip off was Beetlebum, which is way more like their later stuff than any of Oasis was.
But hey, that’s just my take on it. Im not an outright hater. I enjoy quite a few. I’m certainly a lot more generous towards them than some…
The cheekBut hey, I've pissed on enough chips in that godawful Taylor Swift thread. And I'm sure as shit not going to change anyone's mind about Oasis. Just glad to see my point being made a lot better by someone else.
Nope. Ballot entry emails still being sent and got until 10am tomorrow now I think to confirm entry, assume ballot happens after that?anyone had a ballot code yet?
Not the ballot entry confirmation email, the actual code to allow them in to the ballot
I always say that Noel Gallagher inspired me to pick up a guitar, as he did for more people than anyone else for a long time I'd argue, but Graham Coxon inspired me to actually learn how to play the thing.
Zero chance of the end bit mateJustify if you want but £150 for standing is ridiculous. I know the comparisons will come out blah blah but they can get stuffed at that price.
Will pick up a resell one for half the price a week out hopefully.
Zero chance of the end bit mate
Got my confirmation that I’m in the ballot.
Managed to see them on their final tour before the big break up and so I’m hoping to get to see them with my wife.
£150 per person for standing is bang on what I’d expect for something that love them or not is going to be a huge cultural British event next summer.
I can’t think of any other British band touring like this that would generate as much hype.
I’m just confirmed as being entered for the ballot. Not that I have actual access yet.Did you get the loyal fan email inviting you to register for the ballot in the first place? Or you have received a code to enter the pre-sale? I didn't think they were sending those out until tomorrow as the confirmation emails are still going out (which is the email you need to click to confirm your entry to even have a chance of getting a code...)
That is a great deal to unpack right there.I literally bought Bruce Springsteen tickets and Taylor Swift tickets
They could easily charge triple that and still likely sell out in minutes
Yeah, I'm actually quite surprised.
Catfish and the Bottlemen have had a cracking at selling standing for their (extremely ambitious) stadium shows at £80 a pop, with "golden circle" being north of £100, and "early entry" bringing that closer to £300.
Nope. Ballot entry emails still being sent and got until 10am tomorrow now I think to confirm entry, assume ballot happens after that?
Rolls grenade into room and walks away
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-pop-cultural-force-in-recent-british-history
@Redlambs
Yeah that’s fair. Same tbf. In fact all the songs I tried to play when I first got a guitar were Oasis ones I think. They definitely influenced a generation of guitar bands, who then all had more actual talent and people definitely do hate on them a bit because they were so big, but also you don’t tend to have these types of “they were always mediocre actually” arguments about other bands of that size…. which is a bit telling IMO….(Apart from, like, Coldplay!)
Interestingly the only Blur album that has dated is The Great Escape - the peak Britpop one with the novelty oompah.
I don’t agree with everything that vid says but I definitely understand it. Their whole attitude was a very boorish teenage idea of ‘cool’ that has also outlived itself. like their music, it was a reaction against something that isn’t there anymore which is lesser now shorn of that context.
I certainly agree with your first statement. I do think the fact that Oasis never had what you'd call a 'sophisticated sound' sort of works in their favour when it comes to them being dated or not. Their brand of simple guitar music, to me, doesn't date that easily as guitar music in that way will always work. I also think that since Britpop in itself pretty much is defined by Oasis also works in their favor - the genre itself didn't really evolve, the bands from that era evolved into different sounds and genres. Disclaimer here, I haven't really deep dived into Oasis discography, I'm very familar with the hits and have fully listened to the first couple of albums one or two times.See, I do think there’s a difference between ‘dated’ and ‘young people don’t like this anymore’ … I was VERY much in the age range when Oasis were big. Slightly too young if anything to actually enjoy Britpop proper. I’m of the generation where it was your mates cool older siblings who were listening to it, which made it even cooler! but now I’m older the likes of Blur and Radiohead have definitely aged better and I personally hear in more TV shows/ads etc. Granted there are still pubs that play Oasis more, but their sound was a lot less sophisticated and so a lot more “of” that era than even a lot of their contemporary’s. Even those 2 big Ocean Colour Scene songs still get a huge amount of play, cos they’ve dated quite well, musically.
I mean a lot of Bowie stuff hasn’t dated, but a lot of Prince stuff has. Soul largely hasnt dated but Hair Metal has. It’s not just about the passing of time. Oasis are one of those bands where you watch a retrospective and hear people say “their music was edgy and raw and for the people!” and then they cut to a clip of “Some Might Say” and it sounds incredibly naff. Like when people talk about the Satanic panic era and then cut to the cheesiest glam metal bollocks you’ve ever heard. Or even early Beatles stuff with women screaming over clean cup boppy love songs. But then nothing on Revolver has dated. Nor have a lot of The Stones stuff. Nirvana havent dated, etc
The difference obviously was that - unlike the Beatles - Oasis never l progressed from that one sound* There’s some stuff that hasn’t dated for sure sure - Live Forever, Supersonic, fecking In The Bushes etc - but a lot of it has to me, and some of the ballads just sound a bit twee now, even to someone who grew up with them. It was post rave and electronica and people really wanted guitars and catchy choruses but then it never went anywhere else and we all moved on.
Savage Garden?I'm not reading that, it's the Guardian. Nice try though!
Now go back to your only half-known band and their far more creepy brand of dad rock, you Aussie cnut.
Plus the whole wave of Labour getting in and the feel good factor played a massive part. People forget that, and they forget that whatever you want to say about their songs, Oasis bangers are nearly always uplifting. It was definitely a right time and place kind of thing.