NY Yankees unveil new stadium plans

I need a baseball team to look out for.

Which is the nearest team to Manchester, Americanos?
 
FLASHWOK said:
ironically that would be the Boston Red Sox...who are also very close to Manchester, New Hampshire.
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Boston's closer to Manchester than NY?

Are they any good?
 
Spoony said:
Boston's closer to Manchester than NY?

Are they any good?
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yes, Boston is further north east then New York by about 45 minutes by plane.


they are the Yankees arch rivals...they hate the Yankees and are pathologically obsessed with the Yankees...it's kind of funny actually.

they are historical losers...they hadn't won a championship since 1918 while the Yankees won 26 Championships.
 
FLASHWOK said:
yes, Boston is further north east then New York by about 45 minutes by plane.


they are the Yankees arch rivals...they hate the Yankees and are pathologically obsessed with the Yankees...it's kind of funny actually.

they are historical losers...they hadn't won a championship since 1918 while the Yankees won 26 Championships.
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Shit. They are my local club. So what can I do. (my god, they almost sound like City fans.)

ok. what's the second closest team to Manchester?
 
Spoony said:
Shit. They are my local club. So what can I do. (my god, they almost sound like City fans.)

ok. what's the second closest team to Manchester?
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the Yankees are the second closest.... ;) Gods of baseball, with the richest history and most championships by miles...the most famous team in the history of American sport...the club of Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio...
 
otherwise, the great new york metropolitans!

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O`Neill, Broscius, Rivera, El Duque, Jeter and Williams were not high priced free agents and they were the most important players in the Yankees success. During the bad days of the `80s and early `90s your best player wasn`t a high priced free agent. Spending loads of money isn`t always the way to go.
As for A-Rod, yes we weren`t happy to see him go to the Yankees but most Sox fans certainly didn`t like the idea of letting Nomar and Manny go.
No matter the merits of the teams a 3-0 lead not being converted into a series win is a choke of immense proportions.
 
FLASHWOK said:
the Yankees are the second closest.... ;) Gods of baseball, with the richest history and most championships by miles...the most famous team in the history of American sport...the club of Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio...
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Tempting. They're linked to United in some way? Sure we had a partnership.

But I feel a right cnut, fecking off my local club the Boston Red Stockings.
 
Nearco said:
O`Neill, Broscius, Rivera, El Duque, Jeter and Williams were not high priced free agents and they were the most important players in the Yankees success. During the bad days of the `80s and early `90s your best player wasn`t a high priced free agent. Spending loads of money isn`t always the way to go.
As for A-Rod, yes we weren`t happy to see him go to the Yankees but most Sox fans certainly didn`t like the idea of letting Nomar and Manny go.
No matter the merits of the teams a 3-0 lead not being converted into a series win is a choke of immense proportions.
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Let me guess, you're from Preston, USA?
 
FLASHWOK said:
the Yankees are the second closest.... ;) Gods of baseball, with the richest history and most championships by miles...the most famous team in the history of American sport...the club of Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio...
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isn't shea farther east than yankee stadium?
 
Spoony said:
Tempting. They're linked to United in some way? Sure we had a partnership.

But I feel a right cnut, fecking off my local club the Boston Red Stockings.
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they are actually very similar to United....both have legendary figures as well as tragedies...

both had a genius player who ironically wore #7 who was the idol of the sport...the most naturally gifted player around the same era...both of whom drank their talent away... Mickey Mantle and george Best...(Mantle also had to have a liver transplant from excessive drinking.) he was baseballs matinee idol from 1958-the late sixties.

The reds had Duncan Edwards, Yanks had Lou Gehrig, a mountain of a man and powerhouse player....Gehrig was cut down in his prime by what is no known as "Lou Gehrig's diseas" (ALS) he is revered for his famous speech immortalized by gary Cooper in the movie "Pride Of The Yankees" ...dying of this disease, the stadium filled with 60,000 weeping fans, he stood in uniform and retired proclaiming himself "the luckiest man on the face of the earth" the most poignant moment in baseball history.
 
FLASHWOK said:
they are actually very similar to United....both have legendary figures as well as tragedies...

both had a genius player who ironically wore #7 who was the idol of the sport...the most naturally gifted player around the same era...both of whom drank their talent away... Mickey Mantle and george Best...(Mantle also had to have a liver transplant from excessive drinking.) he was baseballs matinee idol from 1958-the late sixties.

The reds had Duncan Edwards, Yanks had Lou Gehrig, a mountain of a man and powerhouse player....Gehrig was cut down in his prime by what is no known as "Lou Gehrig's diseas" (ALS) he is revered for his famous speech immortalized by gary Cooper in the movie "Pride Of The Yankees" ...dying of this disease, the stadium filled with 60,000 weeping fans, he stood in uniform and retired proclaiming himself "the luckiest man on the face of the earth" the most poignant moment in baseball history.
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Right. I'm sold.

NY Blue Sox it is.

Although. . . I'm not having any JCL jibes!
 
The Yankees in terms of success are more like the Liverpool of baseball.
 
FLASHWOK said:
just curious Spoon, when did you begin developing an interest in baseball?
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About two pages ago.

The game needs a few alterations though. Firstly, you need wickets behind the batsmen. And the bowler shouldn't have to wear gloves. It's a bit sissy.

I can see the sport growing in England, with a few minor adjustments.
 
Nearco said:
The Yankees in terms of success are more like the Liverpool of baseball.
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Wash your mouth out.

They're the second biggest club in the world after United.
 
Spoony said:
About two pages ago.

The game needs a few alterations though. Firstly, you need wickets behind the batsmen. And the bowler shouldn't have to wear gloves. It's a bit sissy.

I can see the sport growing in England, with a few minor adjustments.
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:lol:

yeah but in cricket do the pitchers deliberately at the batsman to tell him to back off like they do in baseball? ;)
 
Spoony said:
Wash your mouth out.

They're the second biggest club in the world after United.
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:lol: I couldn`t conceive of suporting a club that didn`t wear red so it`s United and the Red Sox 4life.
 
FLASHWOK said:
:lol:

yeah but in cricket do the pitchers deliberately at the batsman to tell him to back off like they do in baseball? ;)
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Yes. We call them bouncers(also beamers). And they're bowled upto a 100 mp/h. Batsmen have been killed in the past, and it's only until 20 years ago that helmets were made compulsary.

I've seen a baseball, but a cricketball is much harder.

The difference in the game, is that baseball is very well marketed over there, and gets the whole works. I must admit, out of all your sports it's the most appealing. Mainly because the history behind it, the old 'victorian' age stadia from the past, players like Ruth and all that. It's got something.
 
Spoony said:
Yes. We call them bouncers(also beamers). And they're bowled upto a 100 mp/h. Batsmen have been killed in the past, and it's only until 20 years ago that helmets were made compulsary.

I've seen a baseball, but a cricketball is much harder.

The difference in the game, is that baseball is very well marketed over there, and gets the whole works. I must admit, out of all your sports it's the most appealing. Mainly because the history behind it, the old 'victorian' age stadia from the past, players like Ruth and all that. It's got something.
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there were players "beaned" in baseball too who were killed and suffered brain damage in its time...

what you said is on the mark about its history...for me baseball will always be my first love because it is so intertwined in early americana...its still "our" game that was played through the good times and bad.

there is a very relaxed feel to going to the games and it harkens back for most of us to playing catch with a father or uncle when you are young, probably much in the way a dad and son in England would go out and kick a football around.
 
FLASHWOK said:
there were players "beaned" in baseball too who were killed and suffered brain damage in its time...

what you said is on the mark about its history...for me baseball will always be my first love because it is so intertwined in early americana...its still "our" game that was played through the good times and bad.

there is a very relaxed feel to going to the games and it harkens back for most of us to playing catch with a father or uncle when you are young, probably much in the way a dad and son in England would go out and kick a football around.
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There is one major difference between football and american sports. . . and that's the passion. I'm not saying that you're less passionate towards the game, but football crowds in Europe are more hostile, then crowds at american sports grounds. Sadly football stadiums in England have become less passionate due to all seater and the general make up of fans. The game has shifted to a more family audience. I think it's sad because the atmosphere was one the reasons why going to a football matche was so much fun.

Cricket's different. It's more relaxing. Chilling with a beer and some mates. it also has it's charms. But it's a bit like cheese or wine. Not to everyones taste.
 
i don't know. i've been in the student section of michigan-ohio state football games and it gets pretty hostile. i wasn't ducking golf ball with nails driven through them, but still.
 
Spoony said:
There is one major difference between football and american sports. . . and that's the passion. I'm not saying that you're less passionate towards the game, but football crowds in Europe are more hostile, then crowds at american sports grounds.
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You are totally correct with respect to Professional American sports (the possible exception being the Oakland Raiders). Go to a College football (American) or basketball game, however, and you will see passion equalling that of any European football match.
 
FLASHWOK said:
the Yankees are the second closest.... ;) Gods of baseball, with the richest history and most championships by miles
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Having the most Championships doesn't mean you have richest history, it just means you have richest trophy-case.

The Cardinals, Red Sox and Cubs all have histories just as vibrant as the Wankees.

Besides, the best player in history never played on your team, so you don't have that either :).
 
Spoony said:
There is one major difference between football and american sports. . . and that's the passion. I'm not saying that you're less passionate towards the game, but football crowds in Europe are more hostile, then crowds at american sports grounds. Sadly football stadiums in England have become less passionate due to all seater and the general make up of fans. The game has shifted to a more family audience. I think it's sad because the atmosphere was one the reasons why going to a football matche was so much fun.

Cricket's different. It's more relaxing. Chilling with a beer and some mates. it also has it's charms. But it's a bit like cheese or wine. Not to everyones taste.
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good points, but while I do think that the passion involved in euro footy can be tremendously hostile, it has so much to do with who you are/whgere you grew up and to me I find that very interesting...but as you have mentioned most of these people are priced out...nowadays

Kev made a great point about American college football...that is where americans are most passionate and hostile....I have been to some games at a variety of places and the passion, atmosphere etc. is comparable to euro footy(without the class distinctions is my guess)

You take a stadium built for college football (there are dozens of stadiums that seat 80,000+ with benches the way england used to be/terraces etc.) through in 30,000 drunken crazed college students all painted up and loud etc... add in another 50,000 alumni and people from the area (state schools draw tremendous state wide support) and it is utterly insane.

All colleges have huge marching bands that play "fight songs" and spur on the crowd etc...

TBH I prefer College Football to every other pro league we have. Precisely because of the passions and rivalry.


I have a great video of college football stuff that i can post if you want (if you are interested) of my favorite team, set to their three fight songs (basically a highlight reel of their national championship season last year)

just to check out the stuff...it's pretty cool and you'd probably like the fact that these are students and not pros...they are still playing for the love of the game and the CHANCE to become pro...not to mention youthfull exuberance etc...
 
Hey Spoony, check this out it may interest you...since you seem to like the stadium architecture thing (I do too)

it's a link to every college gridiron football stadium here in the States...has loads of pictures for each one as well as capacity stats.

just click on the conferences to look at each school...the biggest state schools have the biggest stadiums, such as Michigan, Ohio State, LSU, Tennessee etc...

good stuff if you are itnerested.


http://www.collegegridirons.com/
 
FLASHWOK said:
I am a diehard Trojan :lol: ;)


wanted to go there my whole life, got in, but things got screwed up...

I was a Charles White fan in the late 70s and was addicted since then. ;)
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Are you a Golden Gophers fan in College Hockey? A UNC Supporter in College Basketball ;)
 
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