Nuri Sahin

They play other teams than Barcelona.

And to be honest, with the right tactics and a lot of work on them then they have the players to be just as good.

They'll never match Barca. You can't underestimate the batch they brought through. People tend to but in the main, they'd not a patch on barcelona.
 
Well despite his passing abilities, I think he is a ball winner. Perhaps not in the same way as Mascherano, but he's a good tackler and a physical presence (despite his diving antics), attributes which I don't think either Alonso or Sahin have. We've seen it for Spain, Liverpool and Madrid - Alonso is at his creative best when he's complemented by a tackler - with partners like Mascherano, Diarra, Khedira and Busquets over the course of his career.
Sahin can takle. He is very much a Redondo type of player.
 
Madrid's Central midfielders- Alonso,Ozil,Sahin,Khedira,Kaka,Diarra, Gago ,Canales, Grenero
 
Gago, Lass, Kheidira and Kaka will be out the door me thinks. AT least 2 of 4 will, Diarra may be content to hang out on the bench and get to play in Jose's super negative formation a handful of times a season.

Think a holding pair of Alonso and Sahin will be very, very fecking impressive.
 
Would anyone here take Lassana as a defensive mid?
 
They'll never match Barca. You can't underestimate the batch they brought through. People tend to but in the main, they'd not a patch on barcelona.

If they had a settled system that works in all types of matches and they played it every week, there's no reason they wouldnt be as good. The difference is Barcelona, apart from Villa, have been playing their tactics and style for years. Madrid are still figuring out their shape and who is going to play in what area.
 
What i really want to know is how Madrid year after year keep getting these players so damn cheap! why do clubs not hold them to ransom over a player the way they do us or others? they seem to bend over and take it as some sort of honour to sell their player to them.
 
What i really want to know is how Madrid year after year keep getting these players so damn cheap! why do clubs not hold them to ransom over a player the way they do us or others? they seem to bend over and take it as some sort of honour to sell their player to them.

Exactly.

Real Madrid are some holy team of something for most of the people in the world.

IMO most players think if they sign for Madrid they have achieved everything possible or something like that. Madrid's power is baffling.
 
What i really want to know is how Madrid year after year keep getting these players so damn cheap! why do clubs not hold them to ransom over a player the way they do us or others? they seem to bend over and take it as some sort of honour to sell their player to them.

Well, Ozil & Sahin would have had only 1 year left on the contract at the time they moved to Real. Plus Sahin's contract had a minimum release fee, so they couldn't hold out for more, possibly the same for Ozil, can't remember.
 
Heard a rumour that Real came knocking last season when Sahin was due to negotiation with Dortmund. He wanted a Real deal before the season kicked off.

His release clause was around £10-12m, depending on sources.
 
Is he injured? Haven't seen him line up for Madrid yet
 
Yep, having him at the very least would've kept Kehl out of the team. I'm not sure whether he's just been ruined by injuries or he's only valued for his experience, but he's looked poor when I've seen him. They really missed Barrios too, key to their team with his movement and ability right across the front line which Lewandowski just can't give them.
 
Was injured the first 3 months of the season. Played 1 league game and 5 games overall. Said the reason he joined Madrid was Mourinho but it hasn't panned out like he wanted. Injuries haven't been good enough of an excuse in the past for Madrid players.

Lass has done well for them and is trusted in the biggest games. Alonso isn't going anywhere yet. Think he'd be worth a sniff in the summer despite his long ass contract? They can't buy anyone with out getting rid of someone who isn't Casillas/Adan/Granero/Callejon/Arbeloa and we know Real Madrid always buy at least a couple of players every year.

They currently have a 23 man roster. 24th spot would be a young goalkeeper and they can't fill the 25th spot if he isn't a homegrown player so presumably that could be Canales' spot.

If Real would be willing to sell I don't think he'd be very expensive.
 
Great reports about him last year for Dortmund

He or canales could be the next sneijder/van der vaart

Transfer gossip already!
 
Well going to a new (big) club in another county and you're injured + having no pre-season then this happens for a player.

If he stays then he should have a very good next season at Bernabeu.

What, not playing? Sure. But what happens if Mourinho leaves next summer. You've then got a new manager who might not know anything about you because you haven't played at all for the club.
 
Still not many signs of life for him at Madrid and still no obvious reason why. Blaming the lack of a pre-season after he's been fit for months is a bit puzzling.

After last night's CL match Mourinho was asked how Madrid will handle Alonso's suspension in the QF. He mentioned Lass and Granero, with Sahin sounding like an afterthought.

So, I've not seen him play enough to know how good he is/could be. For those who have, is he a PL kind if player?
 
Still not many signs of life for him at Madrid and still no obvious reason why. Blaming the lack of a pre-season after he's been fit for months is a bit puzzling.

After last night's CL match Mourinho was asked how Madrid will handle Alonso's suspension in the QF. He mentioned Lass and Granero, with Sahin sounding like an afterthought.

So, I've not seen him play enough to know how good he is/could be. For those who have, is he a PL kind if player?

Linked with us in the BBC gossip column today, never seen him play but seems to be classed as a good young prospect. Must have something about him to be picked up by Madrid.
 
Sahin do a Sneijder and be sold on the cheap only to impress elsewhere?
 
If he's cheap enough it's definitely a gamble worth taking, he was fantastic at Dortmund and could be a good foil to Carrick and eventually his replacement if he ends up reaching his potential.
 
Linked with us in the BBC gossip column today, never seen him play but seems to be classed as a good young prospect. Must have something about him to be picked up by Madrid.

Hes more than a decent "prospect".

Imo last year he was the best player in the bundesliga.

He would of excelled in our team if we snapped him up, but the bright lights of madrid unfortunately have potentially ruined another career.

Now would be the time to snap him up on a fairly cheap deal if mourinho see's him surplus to requirements.
 
He was brilliant at Dortmund and is a big talent. However, there are better talents in Germany alone for midfield