Nuri Sahin
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Probably. You've improved your manager in my opinion which will make a big difference.
A lot of transfers to go yet though.
Glad you find it funny. But if the sign Mirallas and another midfield. Then the gap isn't that big as you think. Keep up with the delusion though.
This is where it gets hard to predict. We have a new manager with one season in the prem for swansea where he did well. Spurs have a new manager who failed terribly at chelsea. Chelsea have a new manager who did even worse than his predecessor in the league.
You could see one or two of those appointments go tits up.
Well, if they do sign a new midfield, it might help.
True. Everyone can't be successful I suppose.
Your team and squad is considerably worse than Arsenal's and Chelsea's. Not to mention United's and City's.
On par with Spurs and Newcastle.
Isn't that what I just said, captain obvious?
Though I disagree that it is 'considerably worse' than Arsenal's. They are running out of top class players. Their overall squad is good, but I think the lack of great players to lift the level of their teammates will hurt them.
Getting rid of your best players all the time will never improve the side, but they still have some very good players left and a great manager - Vermaelen, Sagna, Ramsey, Wilshere, Carzola or whatever his name is spelled - all top class players.
Pienaar's better than Downing
Jelavic is a better goal scorer than Suarez
Fellaini is better than any of your support strikers/wide right players
Vermaelen aside, none of those are in the very top bracket where they really lift their teammates and make marginals fall their way. All good players, Wilshere probably will become such a player in the future (if he isn't always injured) and maybe Carzorla will prove to be that good.
The major thing they have going for them is their manager. He'll see to it that they get what they need for top 4 unless someone else does really well.
They really aren't. All of them would get into Liverpool's first XI though and with Everton you have to factor in the stability of their squad, that's always plus one.
Continuity is very impotant and very unerrated.
Koscielny's our best defender, don't forget. We're still a much better team than you, and you know it.
It depends on how Podolski and that French striker settle, and the development of Chamberlain.
Whatever way looking at it, they have more to their team and squad than your lot.
They have a far better team than you. Of all your players only Enrique would be a certain regular there as he's clearly better than Santos and Gibbs, Agger and Skrtel could challenge Koscielny but wouldn't necessarily start ahead of him. None of your midfielders would displace Song, Wilshere or Arteta. None of your attackers would start ahead of Walcott, Podolski, Giroud, Oxlade-Chamberlain or Cazorla.
The thing that excites me most about our season is how Podolski and Giroud get on with Cazorla behind them pulling the strings. That has infinite potential, especially with Chamberlain around.
fecks sake.
Try Borini instead of Downing then. Pienaar is distinctly average.
And Suarez is streets ahead of Jelavic as a player unless you want to get into Hernandez > Bergkamp territory.
And Fellaini is a fecking central midfielder, not a support striker/wide right player. A handful of games playing behind Jelavic doesn't make him a 'support striker' And Gerrard, Lucas and Sahin are all better than him.
The WUMs on here sometimes. You could at least try something mildly plausible.
Reina
Sagna
Vermaelen
Agger
Enrique
Song
Gerrard
Cazorla
Suarez
Walcott
Podolski
Probably
I don't think Podolski has nowhere near infinite potential to be fair, he's an average striker. Giroud I know little about, he could be a hit or miss. Cazorla is class and should provide a lot.
Podolski is a grafter, and that's really useful. He'll chip in with goals here and there, he's a big game player too. I'm looking at him as a much better version of Park.
So much wrong here. Enrique is one player that probably wouldn't get into their squad. He's been all over the place for a while now.
Agger and Skretl would both displace Koscielny. Lucas, Sahin and Gerrard would all displace Arteta and would give Song good competition.
And you're just wumming by claiming that Suarez wouldn't get into their starting lineup. He is better than any of the attackers they have left. I am not having that Cazorla is suddenly top dog before he's even kicked a ball in the prem.
Yeah, but then you're into lot more uncertain territory to say it is 'considerably better'.
Suarez would get into any team in the league. The fact he's a nasty piece of work clouds people's judgement.
Suarez would certainly start for Arsenal.
Closing the gap?
Everton finished 4 points ahead of Liverpool last season. Its the red half of Merseyside that needs to close the gap.
Closing the gap?
Everton finished 4 points ahead of Liverpool last season. Its the red half of Merseyside that needs to close the gap.
Yes and Chelsea are the 6th best team in the league who really need to close the gap on Newcastle. Quite the challenge.
I doubt he would get into ours on merit.
Well he wouldn't get into United's team for a start.
if wilshere comes back to full fitness in october, arsenal will finish 3rd IMO. He is such a massive piece.
Not in United and not in Manchester City. The rest he probably will.
Harsh
He's better than Balotelli etc. You'd have him in if you played 3 up top.
Anyway, B19 is talking a lot of sense in this thread so I'll just shut up. Apart from the Koscielny bit. That's rubbish.
So he would get in if we played 3 up top?
He's not better than Balotelli, Silva, Aguero or Tevez so he wouldn't get into City.
He's not better than Rooney, Van Persie, Valencia or Nani so he wouldn't get into United.
Like how B19 is talking sense except for when he disagrees with you.
He's better than both Nani and Valencia. They're both good players, but Suarez, footballing wise, is class.
Not on the wing he's not. Just like they aren't better than him up front.
Exactly. As a wide man of a 3 we'd much rather have Valencia and Nani.
As a central striker well Van Persie, Rooney or Suarez...does require something thinking...
Suarez can go wide effectively. Admittedly being on the touchline is not his ideal position, but it's not like he has to go through the middle. This is really besides the point though, because for the sake of the thread, it's clear that Arsenal are stronger than Liverpool overall, regardless of Suarez' existence.
He really isn't.