Why these protesters (violent ones) aren't identified by camera and be deducted benefits if they claim them or lose their jobs if they have them, just like the London rioters, I do not understand.
Northern Ireland Thread
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Why these protesters (violent ones) aren't identified by camera and be deducted benefits if they claim them or lose their jobs if they have them, just like the London rioters, I do not understand.
So, today is a flegday!
Could that not cause more problems in the long run with crime?
It'll most likely stay buck mental while it's up.
Is it too simplistic (or too complicated) just to compromise and fly both flags all the time?
Nothing to do with equality. You do like your little digs, don't you PJ. No agenda, mind.
Foreign fleg, innit?
Foreign fleg, innit?
Saw this on Facebook and thought of this thread.
EXPLANATION!
Ireland is an island to the west of Britain but Northern Ireland is just off the mainland - not the Irish mainland, the British mainland. The capital of Ireland is Dublin. It has a population of a million people, all of whom will be shopping in Newry this afternoon. They travel to Newry because it is in the North, which is not part of Ireland, but still pay in Euros.
Under the Irish constitution, the North used to be in Ireland , but a successful 30-year campaign of violence for Irish unity ensured that it is now definitely in the UK. Had the campaign lasted any longer the North might now be in France.
Belfast is the capital of Northern Ireland . It has a population of half a million, half of whom own houses in Donegal. Donegal is in the north but not in the North. It is in the South. No, not the south, the South.
There are two parliaments in Ireland . The Dublin parliament is called the Dáil, (pronounced "Doyle"), an Irish word meaning a place where banks receive taxpayers' money. The one in Belfast is called Stormont, an Anglo-Saxon word meaning 'placebo', or deliberately ineffective drug.
Their respective jurisdictions are defined by the border, an imaginary line on the map to show fuel launderers where to dump their chemical waste and bi-products. Protestants are in favour of the border, which generates millions of pounds in smuggling for Catholics, who are totally opposed to it.
Travel between the two states is complicated because Ireland is the only country in the world with two M1 motorways. The one in the North goes west to avoid the south and the one in the South goes north to avoid the price of drink!
We have two types of democracy in Ireland. Dublin democracy works by holding a referendum and then allowing the government to judge the result. If the government thinks the result is wrong, the referendum is held again. Twice in recent years the government decided the people's choice was wrong and ordered a new referendum.
Belfast democracy works differently. It has a parliament with no opposition, so the government is always right. This system generates envy in many world capitals, especially Dublin.
Ireland has three economies - northern, southern and black. Only the black economy is in the black. The other two are in the red.
All versions of the IRA claim to be the real IRA but only one of them is the Real IRA. The North's biggest industry is the production of IRAs. Consequently, we now have the Provisional, Continuity and Real IRA. The Real IRA is by far the most popular among young graffiti writers simply because it is the easiest to spell.
I trust this clarifies things and has answered many previously unanswered questions for you.
EXPLANATION!
Ireland is an island to the west of Britain but Northern Ireland is just off the mainland - not the Irish mainland, the British mainland. The capital of Ireland is Dublin. It has a population of a million people, all of whom will be shopping in Newry this afternoon. They travel to Newry because it is in the North, which is not part of Ireland, but still pay in Euros.
Under the Irish constitution, the North used to be in Ireland , but a successful 30-year campaign of violence for Irish unity ensured that it is now definitely in the UK. Had the campaign lasted any longer the North might now be in France.
Belfast is the capital of Northern Ireland . It has a population of half a million, half of whom own houses in Donegal. Donegal is in the north but not in the North. It is in the South. No, not the south, the South.
There are two parliaments in Ireland . The Dublin parliament is called the Dáil, (pronounced "Doyle"), an Irish word meaning a place where banks receive taxpayers' money. The one in Belfast is called Stormont, an Anglo-Saxon word meaning 'placebo', or deliberately ineffective drug.
Their respective jurisdictions are defined by the border, an imaginary line on the map to show fuel launderers where to dump their chemical waste and bi-products. Protestants are in favour of the border, which generates millions of pounds in smuggling for Catholics, who are totally opposed to it.
Travel between the two states is complicated because Ireland is the only country in the world with two M1 motorways. The one in the North goes west to avoid the south and the one in the South goes north to avoid the price of drink!
We have two types of democracy in Ireland. Dublin democracy works by holding a referendum and then allowing the government to judge the result. If the government thinks the result is wrong, the referendum is held again. Twice in recent years the government decided the people's choice was wrong and ordered a new referendum.
Belfast democracy works differently. It has a parliament with no opposition, so the government is always right. This system generates envy in many world capitals, especially Dublin.
Ireland has three economies - northern, southern and black. Only the black economy is in the black. The other two are in the red.
All versions of the IRA claim to be the real IRA but only one of them is the Real IRA. The North's biggest industry is the production of IRAs. Consequently, we now have the Provisional, Continuity and Real IRA. The Real IRA is by far the most popular among young graffiti writers simply because it is the easiest to spell.
I trust this clarifies things and has answered many previously unanswered questions for you.
oh my eyes
why doesnt the queen fly the german flag above her palace?
No of course not because we don't deserve a flag do we?
Both flags flying would be a compromise but as about as likely as Sammy Wilson keeping his clothes on when he goes on holiday.
The foreign fleg thing holds no weight here GB.
You're more than welcome to a fleg, you also have a country where you can fly it to your hearts content.
Don't like it.
Surely this works better?
Now that is a lovely flag. I might get one of those. Looking at it makes me think of garlic though. Don't know why.
Because there aren't people in the UK who consider themselves to be German?
Excluding, obviously, those who are, but who have chosen to live here.
That's debatable. They'd be one of the least represented nations in the UK if what you say is true.
Put it another way then. If Germany had won the war, the majority of UK citizens woudn't consider the flag of Germany theirs.
I'm not surre why GB made the comparison - there's no similarity with the Irish situation.
I think he was hinting at the Royal families German heritage.
It's kinda similar they are about as German as the northern Irish people whom ancestors are from the rest of the UK are.
The Norn Irish lot are Brits though, not just through legislation, they were settlers from one part of the Kingdom to another.
And they want the Union flag.
Those who don't consider themselves British want their flag.
So fly both the flaming things.
But it's not similar, because the Queen doesn't consider herself German.
its a British state Livvie, as moses points out the settlers came from Britain. Generations of their offspring consider themselves British, not Irish.
why don't North Koreans fly the flag of South Korea and vice versa? I mean they are all from Korea right?
why don't North Koreans fly the flag of South Korea and vice versa? I mean they are all from Korea right?
But they aren't in the Republic of Ireland
until there comes the day when NI is bargained away to Ireland, then we can expect to see a British flag hanging from the Government buildings, nothing more.
Are there people in the North who think of themselves as South Korean though?
I know what you're saying, Geebs, but it's a flag ffs. It's not like the Loyalists don't know that half the population consider themselves Republicans.
It would symbolise, at the least, harmony.
But I suppose that's asking for too much.
It's not just a wee flegggg, it's our culture.
If both flags were flying, then everyone's culture would be catered for.
It would then be a British state flying the symbol of a foreign state.
bingo
They are going apoplectic at lowering the Jack, you really think raising a tricolour will be any way acceptable to them?
But...but...fleggggs.
Anyway, I liked the idea of taking their benefits if they're caught rioting. Considering the amount of money they've now cost N.Ireland maybe they should take a hit in their own pockets. Wankers.
Im not over stating this, but that would be like putting kindling on a fire thats well on its way to being lit.
There has been relative peace in NI for the last 10 years. An issue like this just shows how little some commentators understand about the complicated politics in NI, and secondly how little it takes to stir up a hornets nest. It really wouldn't take much more before bodies start being pulled off the streets
Totally agree.
It's not a British/Orange state any more, it is a new de facto state and the old crap needs to be ditched.
in fact, when i say kindling, i mean petrol
its still part of the union and the majority want it to remain so for the forseable future
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...s-to-irish-unification-tomorrow-16170779.html
Not really.
I have no hope that any of them could give an inch and compromise.
It would be too much of a step forward.
That's the problem though, isn't it? It is still technically part of Britain, thus flies the British flag. It isn't technically part of the republic, thus can't fly the tricolour. I think a lot of people would like to view NI as some kind of independent state but the fact is it isn't.