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Nicolas Otamendi | City Player
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Too much.
He is probably one of the three signings mentioned we've already 'sorted'.
I've got to the stage where I'm beyond caring about the price tags. We're so reckless with our money that I've become numb to it. No one except a select few were complaining when we were shelling out nearly double what Di Maria is worth.
Besides that, he's a good player and will improve us immensely.
I've got to the stage where I'm beyond caring about the price tags. We're so reckless with our money that I've become numb to it. No one except a select few were complaining when we were shelling out nearly double what Di Maria is worth.
Besides that, he's a good player and will improve us immensely.
50m? Either a lie of those who are in charge (at United) are braindead.
I think we've seen that they are when it comes to transfer fees. It doesnt sound unlike us at all
Thats £35 million which is definitely toppy, but Otamendi is a good player and along with Parejo is the reason Valencia are 3rd this season.
Godin is 29 so if Atletico want a fee similar to that I hope we're looking for other options
Otamendi is good, but that is a very large sum of money for a 27 years old defender who isn't even in top 10 CB in the world. He'll have no resale value and likely won't be here for more than 5 years.
I think that there are better options right there. Also, I think that Godin was mentioned to have a lower release clause, while being far better.
Id prefer Godin but Otamendi has also been immense this season.
That seems silly money, but the right center back might just be worth it for the effect they could have on our back line.
I think there's something in this.
There's loads of mixed opinions on him on here but I honestly think he's actually very, very good and this season he's been brilliant.
I hope it’s just speculation that we are in for this guy, I don’t think he is much of an upgrade on what we already have and the money it would take to get him is stupid, his buyout clause is probably double what he is actually worth. We should be targeting top quality player or players who have the potential to be top quality not the likes of Otamendi otherwise we will spend a fortune without actually improving the team.
Godin is cheaper and much better.
On other words, continue to do what we have been doing in the last few years.
Exactly and we haven’t really got anywhere by doing it. Only have to look at City to see the affects of that kind of transfer policy in the longer term, they have been spending fortunes on the likes of Fernandinho without actually improving and the average age of their squad is getting higher and higher as well
You paid £30m for Herrera, no? £6m more is not a very big difference.
From a Bilbao side where release clauses are the only way to deal, yeah. Wouldn't expect us to pay so much to Valencia, there is actual room to haggle.
Herrera was 3 years younger. Also, with euro now being worthless, the prices should be a bit cheaper. *
* Herrera cost around 36m EURO, while with current pound-euro rate, Otamendi will cost 50m EURO.
The right centre back would certainly be worth it. Thing is, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of people saying Otamendi is that guy.
He's another rabid dog CB, I really hope this is not true.
We obviously think he's top 5 if we're willing to pay that
Not anymore. Now they are rich they have no reason to sell, especially as the whole point of investing is to catch Atletico, Barcelona and Madrid. You dont do that by selling your best player at a reasonable price
Wasn't this the guy who was banded about 18 months ago for alot less than this and no one was that keen?
I guess he is the new Garay. I really hope that like the never ending Garay rumors there is nothing to this. If we are going to pay that much for a 27 year old I think he needs to be an elite player. Otamendi definitely is not that.
Clyne and who else?
Depay.
Never in a million years would Atletico sell Godin for anything less than 60 million Euros and at that price and considering his age I don't think anyone would pay that. The difference with Koke, Godin and Costa is that Costa wanted to leave. Koke and Godin clearly would prefer to stay put
He has a buyout clause.
To be honest I haven't seen him play at all this season. But I find it odd that there is such wildly conflicting thoughts on the player in this thread... one of the camps must be talking out of their arse surely?
Next week its going to be Garay
Garay would be awesome.
and he wouldnt be so expensive i guess? We could get him for half the price of Otamendi. Cant believe we would spend 50m€ on him.
50m for Otamendi 
I wouldn't even want him if Valencia are giving us 50m and Otamendi
I wouldn't even want him if Valencia are giving us 50m and Otamendi
I'd pay €50m for Godin but for Otamendi?! 
I detect a mild case of judging players having seldom seen them play in this thread.
I know little about the guy, to be honest, as I don't watch much football outside of the Premier League and Champions League, but there seems to be a lot of unsubstantiated criticism of a player that is apparently having a very, very good season.
What I mean by that is, lots of smilies and a fair few comments suggesting that he isn't up to scratch.
What are his weaknesses and why are the likes of Godin and Hummels better on this season's evidence? Genuinely curious.
I know little about the guy, to be honest, as I don't watch much football outside of the Premier League and Champions League, but there seems to be a lot of unsubstantiated criticism of a player that is apparently having a very, very good season.
What I mean by that is, lots of smilies and a fair few comments suggesting that he isn't up to scratch.
What are his weaknesses and why are the likes of Godin and Hummels better on this season's evidence? Genuinely curious.
In my view it's not that he's a bad player it's that he's another mad dog CB who has a flare point in him. I think what our defense lacks is a calm leader who can guide the likes of Rojo rather than add player with the same kind of mentality.
Otamendi looks like a hard Mofo...He's only 6 foot though which can be short for a central defender...but I like the look of him....looks like a slightly shorter version of Vidic in terms of build and power
Great player, would be surprised if we were forking out €50m for him though but with no reason to sell one of their best players, from Valencia's point of view that's probably how much it would take for them to consider.
If he was as crazy and unreliable as people are saying, would Valencia be doing so well this season? It's easy to go along with impressions of players; I'd be more interested to hear from people who have actually seen him consistently play this season.
This is where I stand. I get the impression that he's an aggressive player but there is a distinction to be made between aggression and then recklessness.
As you say, Valencia probably wouldn't be where they are in La Liga and Otamendi wouldn't be receiving the plaudits he's getting if he was indeed reckless.
If people are after another defender like Rio then I think they'll be waiting a while.
I think everyone doubted him before this season, except those who said he did a good job at Porto. He certainly looked an average defender for me for Argentina many years ago when I first saw him, same as Rojo
Almost nobody has watched him/Valencia a lot this season and thats why very few people have changed their opinion. But his performances have forced me to change my opinion of him. Valencia are doing very well and he's been their best player, just in front of Parejo. And its been the defence that has been key to Valencia, because they've lacked goals. Their defensive record remains the 2nd best in the league after Barcelona, despite Valencia going on a slide for a while and dropping from the top 4 and then coming back to get into 3rd.
The defence has remained good whether Otamendi has played with 20 year old Vezo at the beginning of the season, or Mustafi after he had settled into his new club, or even Orban who is a defensive leftback who has been used at CB at times. Otamendi has led the defence well no matter who is in it. He has a couple of nice goals coming up for set pieces too, showing potential for being someone who can do that more often
As someone who has watched Valencia in around half their league matches this season, I'm sure he'd help us a lot.
Sure someone like Godin would help us even more but he's a few years older and its reasonable to think he might feel better off at Atletico where he can win the league and get far in the champions league as they have proven. So even paying his buyout and spending a lot of money on someone who is soon in his 30s, wouldnt guarantee we could get him. He probably wouldnt even be that interested
And based on this season's form Otamendi wouldn't have that much less of an impact for us, with a few years ahead of him still to improve and peak.
At £35 million he would represent more value for money than anything but the Blind deal we did in the summer. But thats based on 1 season and in a different league to the one we play in, so the fee is probably a bit too high. But that sounds like us - if we dont sign Otamendi for £5 million too much, we'll be just as likely to sign someone else for £10 million too much instead and at least he's good.
I'd personally like to see Smalling - Otamendi as a partnership, LVG likely has other plans due to both being right footed. But I think they'd be incredibly solid in front of De Gea
Interestingly he's won more headers this season than any of our CBs, even though the premier league is known more for its longer passes and crosses
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