This would please me greatly!
I would have thought not as well but he is left footed and can pass which might see LvG want to try and make it work.
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This would please me greatly!
I would have thought not as well but he is left footed and can pass which might see LvG want to try and make it work.
Yeah, that's one I've never been able to figure out. People say it as if it makes perfect sense, but it's no different than walking into a house and saying to the estate agent "This place is a shithole, mate. I'm surprised no one's set fire to the fecker yet. On that basis, I'm only willing to offer €300k, which I'll be paying back for the next 25 years. But whatever. I'm not arsed".
What do you mean? Stones isn't the answer. We need an experienced head in there, not another young one. Stones won't get straight in the Chelsea side, he will eventually replace Terry, but Terry is still alive and kicking.
If he does that, some of the good work he has done in the transfer window will be lost. We will have to play every midfielder we have in front of them as protection.
It certainly wouldn't be my choice either, just with LvG I can imagine him looking at Otamendi and wondering if he is just a better version of Jones and Smalling, good one on one, quick and strong, but not offering that ability on the ball he seems to want from at least one of his CB's.
I saw him play there for Ajax and he was awful
I have a horrible feeling that we might see Carrick in the centre of defence more often with the 2 new guys ruling the midfield in front of him
I can see how it might just help a little if you spread out the word that player X is just one of several options for a certain position. But to say you have NO interest in him doesn't help when you actually try to agree a fee.
That's where i see Carrick end his career at United GB & have said that for a few seasons now. Its nailed on imo, but us not buyin a top-class CB now is just mental..
I hope not, he's not really suited to it, especially now we are playing a high line as he doesn't have the pace or mobility to keep getting turned around and chasing runners. The only way I see Carrick functioning as a CB is if we played the 3-5-2.
Agreed
Tim Vickery was on Talksport a few mins ago and basically stated that Otamendi isn't good enough for United as he lacks pace, also he once played RB in the 2010 world cup against Germany and got ripped apart although not his favoured position but nevertheless showed he is not quick enough for the epl.
Tim Vickery must be on crack.
So if not Otamendi, then who are we getting? Ramos is impossible. And we need a bastard at the back for us. To me it is essential this season to inject some confidence in our defence, so getting worried about who we're going to get.
On the other hand, I'm a bit suspicious about most of the media outlets running with the same line - seems a calculated piece of information being circulated for whatever reason...
On the other hand, I'm a bit suspicious about most of the media outlets running with the same line - seems a calculated piece of information being circulated for whatever reason...
So this appears off then...unless it's some kind of negotiation tactic from Woodward.
After last season, if we don't buy a seasoned cb who can lead the back line we are asking for it.
I like Tim quite alot. He's a very likeable bloke & full of knowledge - not to mention extremely reliable. Bit surprised him coming out with that regarding Otamendi though..
The only thing I remember about Vickery is him praising Anderson back in 2007. "The acceleration of the Millennium Falcon".
Why? LVG brought in Blackett and McNair last season when people thought he'd just play Carrick at the back during the defensive injury crisis.
That's partly because Carrick was undroppable from midfield. With Schweiny and Schneiderlin, that's no longer the case.
I'm expecting Carrick at CB as well. Not permanently, but not as a forced choice (defensive injury crisis) either.
I'm hoping we do as little random tinkering this coming season. No midfielders in defence, and midfielders upfront just because you couldn't sign a striker. The team needs stability now after so many changes. We need a settled formation, and fairly quickly, if players deliver, a core of players that start pretty much every game, that are relied upon.
Carrick wont play a single minute at CB this season. In fact, we've already seen an opportunity go past. He could've played Carrick CB and Blind CM in the first tour game, but chose the opposite. Carrick has absolutely no value as a CB in a back 4.
Is this off?
Has something happened in last few day for people to think it's off?
Has something happened in last few day for people to think it's off?
He knows his shit about the South American players. I'd be inclined to take his word for what its worth
I doubt it tbh. LVG is expecting Carrick, the Schs and Blind to battle it out for midfield places. Blind is the only one I expect to play at the back because LVG himself says it could happen. McNair and Blackett, if they're are not loaned out will definitely get some gametime this season and they are older and more experienced from last season. LVG has shown he's not the kind of manager who likes to give players makeshift roles unless absolutely necessary.
Not the first time Tim Vickery has said that about Otamendi. He was on Talksport a couple of months ago basically saying he'd just had one good season and was surprised by all the hype.
If we are in for him, surely we must sign him these next few days, so that he can join the team on the 25th alongside Di Maria and Rojo?
I'm with Tim V on this one.
We should look elsewhere.
We should look elsewhere.
Im with you but the problem is there is no elsewhere. That's why people are desperate for this to happen.
Agreed. I'm not so fond of players who had 1 good season (read Kane), but there is a serious lack of quality CB's around. Wonder if we're waiting for him to force a move.
Anything in the region of 30-40m EUR would seem ok, given that we're desperate for a quality CB and the lack of quality in the market
Surely we've got other targets. We can't start the season with the injury prone/average Evans, Smalling, Rojo or Jones as our only options as CBs
I think we still believe we can get Ramos.
Summary for those who can't see tweets:
Jonas Giæver @CheGiaevara
SuperDeporte reporting that Eugenio López, Otamendi's agent, and Jorge Mendes spent this weekend in Porto having meetings with two clubs.
They were held on Saturday, SuperDeporte say, one in the morning, one in the evening. The two clubs? Manchester United and Manchester City.
SuperDeporte report that both Manchester clubs are going for Otamendi and will prepare formal offers to present to Valencia this week.
The meetings, held in Porto, was for Mendes and López to be informed on everything possible for negotiations to start with Valencia.
SuperDeporte say that after the meetings the two agents called Otamendi to tell him that a move is close, and bids will come in this week.
SuperDeporte also say that more communication will take place tomorrow (Tuesday) to talk about concrete amounts.
SuperDeporte say that contracts offered to Otamendi, by the Manchester clubs, and also previously by Madrid, PSG and Chelsea have been between €3,5 and €4m a season.
SuperDeporte say that following the call Otamendi celebrated with an Argentine barbecue and partied well into the night in Buenos Aires. Of the participants were one Erik Lamela, SuperDeporte say, alongside several other footballers
SuperDeporte also reiterate that Otamendi is ready to return to Valencia on Friday and he will not force anything. He has told Valencia this. No, there is no mention of what Otamendi would prefer between Manchester City and Manchester United.
So Code cx did that gif for nothing then?
How reliable are SuperDeporte then when it comes to Valencia?
You guys have bought into transfer muppetry hype of this geezer. Tim Vicks for the voice of reason saviour. He's not a £30m defender, I'd accept him with open arms at a similar price to Rojo.
Well it is a pretty detailed story. Plus they mention the party Otamendi had and sure enough, he posted pics of his party on twitter. Not sure though if the SuperDeporte report was written before or after he posted the pics
There are always other options... just not so easy to say what they are and whether they are achievable or not.
But if for example I was offered the choice between Otamendi and Stones at £35m, I'd want Stones.
And if for example I was offered the choice between Otamendi at £35m and Varane at £45m, I'd want Varane.
And probably if I was offered the choice between Otamendi at £35m and Dragovic at £12m, I'd want Dragovic.
In short, Otamendi ain't worth £35m.
Dead in the water?
Surprised by that comment tbh. He's not the fastest but he's faster than most premier league CBs. He's faster than Vidic but slower than Rio.
Otamendi vs Bale.
Surprised by that comment tbh. He's not the fastest but he's faster than most premier league CBs. He's faster than Vidic but slower than Rio.
Otamendi vs Bale.
Speed is an overrated quality for a CB anyway. I bet if you did a top 10 best PL CBs ever list, there will be more slow ones than the fast ones.
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