Nicolas Otamendi | City Player

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I wonder if Valencia getting the CL spot will change things on this one or if the huge money hike he'd get here will mean he will take the move anyway if we meet the buyout.
 
I wonder if Valencia getting the CL spot will change things on this one or if the huge money hike he'd get here will mean he will take the move anyway if we meet the buyout.

You can enjoy a live game from the further seats, but you can also enjoy a live game from the seats right behind the duck out. I like to use that analogy to compare Valencia with United.
 
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Impressive
 
Most people said we overpaid for Herrera at the time because of his release clause. The fee was quickly forgotten when he started to perform well.

It's only brought up again if the player struggles. If Otamendi does a job for us at the back, then I couldn't care less if we throw €50m Valencia's way.

Very true. Looked expensive to me, I argued that it was but Ander has completely proven worth the money in my opinion this season
 
True but that's the why the Depay deal seems like ridiculous value.

depay's fee is 30 million euros which is just a bit over 20million pounds even after the add ons and that was the first time in quite sometime that we got a very good deal for one of the best young player in the world at this moment.
 
He's the same height as Thiago Silva, who's by far the standout CB in the past 5 years. Otamendi has a good leap and is bulky/strong enough to handle the physical side of the league.
 
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If he can defend against that lot he can do it in the Prem. Sign him up.
 
Copa Americana goes on until the 4th of July, this could drag out a bit unless we make a deal before the start of the tournament. :(
 
Something I'm sure I've mentioned, but not recently is that Valencia are not a team you'd expect to defend well based on the last 10 years. In fact a number of years ago they'd have comical moments in their defence time and again, game after game. Back in the days where Raul Albiol and Alexis were their best CBs.

This season is the first time they've all looked convincing at the back and have a very good defensive record. And its the one season that Otamendi has played there. Players like Gaya, the keeper Diego Alves, Mustafi and even young Ruben Vezo who played some matches next to Otamendi in the first phase of the season they have all played well and looked good. But again this all just happens after Otamendi comes in for a season... So perhaps he's even better than I think and thats his influence on his teammates making them feel more assured. Because its a bit of a freak season for Valencia to be one of the top teams in the league with their defending and defensive record. The manager also needs to take credit there
 
Does he speak english? I think its a huge worry imo. He looks the real deal and im becoming abit obsessed about him coming - if this one doesnt come off id be gutted. But if its true that he doesn't speak any english then a huge part of his defensive ability is null and voided until he can. How is he supposed to orchestrate and organise the back line with three other english defenders?
 
Does he speak english? I think its a huge worry imo. He looks the real deal and im becoming abit obsessed about him coming - if this one doesnt come off id be gutted. But if its true that he doesn't speak any english then a huge part of his defensive ability is null and voided until he can. How is he supposed to orchestrate and organise the back line with three other english defenders?

Why not play him with Raphael, Rojo & Thiago Silva ?
 
Agent confirming that he's asked Valencia to allow him to leave.
All but confirms he's coming here IMO
 
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Get this done quick. Not many available good CB's out there.
 
Agent confirming that he's asked Valencia to allow him to leave.
All but confirms he's coming here IMO

Its all upto the club now. There's no denying he wants to come. And since our 27m was rejected we have to trigger the release clause, no other way. Same as Herrera.
 
Judging by that interview it looks like he will push for a move even if we don't want to pay his release clause.

Looks like his agent is some guy named Eugenio Lopez, I always thought he was a Mendes player?

The interview is in this guy's tweeter feed: https://twitter.com/GaffneyVLC


 
Judging by that interview it looks like he will push for a move even if we don't want to pay his release clause.

Looks like his agent is some guy named Eugenio Lopez, I always thought he was a Mendes player?

The interview is in this guy's tweeter feed: https://twitter.com/GaffneyVLC




Lopez and Mendes have close links, according to some article I just loosely translated. Getting Mendes involved would help seal a deal. That's what Mendes is about.
 
Lopez and Mendes have close links, according to some article I just loosely translated. Getting Mendes involved would help seal a deal. That's what Mendes is about.
Mendes, i suspect is already involved here. He is a very close friend of Peter Lim, Valencia's owner and actually played a part in the club's takeover by introducing Lim to Salvo (Valencia president).
 
I like Otamendi but him and Rojo as our only centre back signings under van Gaal would be a pretty poor show.
 
Sounds like he's coming. It's just a question of how much we'll end up paying and how quickly we can get him here.
 
Smalling is the fastest player at the club.

Indeed and you really don't need two quick centrebacks anyway. It's actually not that often that a centreback has to turn and run back to goal.
 
If we do end up playing a high line. Well you do have a point as we do have smalling.
The need for pace as a CB is massively overstated. It's nice if they have it, but it's not a big deal if not.
 
Rooney and Mata said Di Maria and Valencia were. And Shaw is absolutely rapid. Jones is quick too actually.
A race needs organising to pass the time over the summer.
 
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