Obviously can't stand the Patriots but never like to hear about players getting injured, especially something as serious as that.
How old is he?
How old is he?
NFL 2017/18
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No doubt he will be back, one of the toughest players in the league & very unlucky how it happened.
Hope so, no way to end a career.
Just downloaded madden if anyone wants a game
Edelman will be a big loss
You can't replace someone so reliable as Edelman, but we've got decent cover between Cooks, Hogan, Gronk, Allen, Mitchell, Amendola & the RBs who can catch. However, Mitchell's not been healthy in pre-season & I doubt Gronk can be relied upon to play every game. Will be interesting how Belichick handles this - probably means a lot of 2 TE sets with Cooks & Hogan the WRs.
We have depth there. So fingers crossed...
But Edelman is so much more than a WR. From what I see he's like a heartbeat of our offence. A clear leader. Vocal. Inspirational even.
I had us just slightly above the Steelers (BBB and young rising defence and all that) but perhaps this might put us on a par.
To be fair even if you hate the Patriots, you can't help but feel it for him.
QB in college, adapted to one of the top WRs in the league. But moreso his passion and determination. Something that we can all kinda relate to in our respective paths.
Will be a big loss for us, even with incredible depth in that spot.
Yeah I'm keen.
NY football is going to be crap this year if this game is anything to go by.
32 I believe
Savage...
All that and only one order of calamari? I blame McCarthy.
2.5K on a bottle of wine what the actual feck 
Wedge Salad
Also random discussion point but I don't understand the Jags. Why put your starting QB job for competition, because Bortles was doing crap, then proceed with Bortles anyway even when he's still doing crap and worse than the guy he was competing against?
Can't believe how much Bortles has regressed from that 2015 season though. Almost 4.5k yards and 35 TDs. Had many picks but cos he was pushing it downfield. Now he still has those picks but doesn't push it down field at all.
Can't believe how much Bortles has regressed from that 2015 season though. Almost 4.5k yards and 35 TDs. Had many picks but cos he was pushing it downfield. Now he still has those picks but doesn't push it down field at all.
It's a really weird reaction by Marrone and Coughlin, two guys I have incredible respect for and trust their football IQ. Bortles is complete garbage at this point and I can't say the Jags are trying to save face because the current staff didn't draft him. The only thing that makes sense is that they gave the job back to Bortles because they atleast think he has the potential to improve more than Henne does. That won't happen but we all know what Henne is, and Bortles, as terrible as he is, will always be linked with the expectations that come with the 3rd pick in the draft.
I've watched his tape and he has flaws in his mechanics and is completely blind when throwing downfield. He throws into double and triple coverages routinely and he just doesn't seem to improve. 2015 was a fluke in my opinion: play calling is incredibly important in the NFL and adjustments made against him by defensive coordinators in 2016 showed that he was never the stud many thought he was. The hitch in his throw is detrimental but even improving upon that won't change the mental errors he makes.
Honest truth: Jags need to cut him before the season starts. They already picked up his option for next year and that money (18 million I believe) would have to be paid to him if he's unable to play next year due to an injury caused this year.
Edit: wrong football thread
I'm a big fan of his, but Mariota has been very hit and miss today. I've seen him dominate some games, but something looks off. Some clutch throws on big downs, though.
I don't think him or Winston are ready / consistent enough to make their teams genuine threats in the post-season, yet.
Agreed on both accounts. Winston throws too many interceptions, and Mariota still hasn't "clicked" in the NFL systems he's been thrust into. Still, both are very exciting players and could one day be cornerstones of their teams.
Both teams have built decent squads around these centerpiece QBs but they both are a bit away from being dependable enough to succeed in the postseason.
Winston is way too aggressive and doesn't seem content in following a game plan put forth by his coaching staff. He needs to let the game come to him and stop trying to do everything at once.
Mariota has a great offensive line and running game but sometimes his throws aren't on the money. I also don't trust him during the 2 minute drill.
All of this can change over time, definitely over the course of this season - but let's be honest about what we see at this point in time.
I think Tennesse is certainly capable of winning that division. Jags are an enigma that always seem to lose even though they have great players on paper; the Colts don't have those great players and seem to be always hitting above their weight, even if Luck returns they won't be anything special becuase they love running an retirement home with aged players; and Houston has a great defense but lost AJ Bouye and that offense is so overrated - yes, it's boring to watch but they really are worse than they seem. I like Watson but not sure if he's ready yet.
Wedge Salad
I had one at some uppity steakhouse in Vegas and it was fecking delicious.
There's a reason those Favre comparisons are being made. Like Favre, I don't think Winston is EVER going to completely get rid of that aggressive/gunslinger/forcing tendency - what they have to hope is that, he cuts down on it a bit.
Favre - averaged 27 touchdowns and 18 interceptions for his career
Winston - 25 touchdowns and 17 interceptions (albeit, this is still very early in his career)
Yeah. it is very, very difficult to train that trait out of a QB.
Instead you just hope that naturally over time and as they gain experience, they phase out some of the aggressiveness instinctively and indeed they become better at hitting on those throws where they erratically push it downfield.
Perhaps blighted by Hard Knocks but I think Winston has great potential to have a great career. He's got rare leadership skills.
Nah, not just Hard Knocks. He's going to have a very good career at the very least. And without being all racist, it helps that he isn't your stereotypical black quarterback - or what used to be a pretty established stereotype.
He isn't reliant on his athletic prowess - he's actually pretty unathletic to be honest
- which should mean less injuries and as a result a longer career. Compare that to someone like Cam (he's a great player) - but, he is by no means a great passer (throws the deep ball pretty damn well). However, his size and potential to run the ball are his biggest assets - even someone like him, is going to start to suffer from taking all those hits and I can guarantee he isn't going to be playing into his mid 30's let alone as long as Brady!Favourite quote from ep3
'Feck that tight end'
'Feck that tight end'
The rookies pooled together to pay it. It's really not that expensive once you divide it up on the salaries they have
Matt Stafford got paid 
Matt Stafford got paid
Holy moly majoly
Joe Haden released by the Browns.
Go get him (Haden), Jerry!
This should interest plenty of teams --The team doesn’t have a lot of cap room to work with, but that shouldn’t be a problem with Cleveland on the hook for most of Haden’s salary if it falls under $4 million, which it likely would…-- http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/08/nfl-joe-haden-rumors-chiefs-steelers-titans-cowboys
Heard a stat about Stafford. He's 5-46 against opposition with winning records, which includes a 1-25 mark on the road in those games. Yikes. Not all on him obviously.
This should interest plenty of teams --The team doesn’t have a lot of cap room to work with, but that shouldn’t be a problem with Cleveland on the hook for most of Haden’s salary if it falls under $4 million, which it likely would…-- http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/08/nfl-joe-haden-rumors-chiefs-steelers-titans-cowboys
Heard a stat about Stafford. He's 5-46 against opposition with winning records, which includes a 1-25 mark on the road in those games. Yikes. Not all on him obviously.
Wow. That's a crazy statistic.
Signed with the Steelers - 3 year, $27m contract. Quality addition for them.
Steelers are gonna go very very far this year, if they can avoid the injuries.
Offence? Well don't think anything needs to be said really.
But defence? Underrated unit. Fast, hard hitting, and importantly young and improving every year. Haden gives them a serious boost too.
Offence? Well don't think anything needs to be said really.
But defence? Underrated unit. Fast, hard hitting, and importantly young and improving every year. Haden gives them a serious boost too.
Just watched ep4 of Hard Knocks. Gerald McCoy is the MVP of this season.
@Eboue Lions have traded Laken Tomlinson to the Niners in exchange for the 2019 5th round draft pick. What do you make of that?
JJ has done brilliantly there, that's absolutely amazing and even more so because more than just the money he's said he and his teammates are going to manage it and make sure it goes to the right places etc.
A few million dollar donations in there too, including from Walmart who have also pledged $20,000,000 in cash and goods to help people get back on their feet.
A few million dollar donations in there too, including from Walmart who have also pledged $20,000,000 in cash and goods to help people get back on their feet.
The sharps are staying well away from the Raiders, and I agree with them...
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